Racism

Started by Schecter215 pages
Originally posted by Phantom Zone

I however think that the fact that the designers and builders of New Orleans French Quarter being Mandingo is good evidence that blacks descended from that region were mandingo, I think you were trying to debunk it and I think thats unfair.

no i was simply pointing out the logical reality that this information you supplied is of no relevance to general ancestry of settled slaves in NE. as in the difference between 'most' and 'some'. its completely irrelevant to your attempt at debunking my statement. all you have proven is that there are exceptions to the rule. however i never argued against that, did i?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I also stated that if your ancestors were involved in the building then that was a good indication but you did not address the point. Yeah you did say most black people but we were also talking about specific circumstances and trying to debunk it.

no, we were not. you were narrowing it down to an extreme minority of black americans and then went on to accuse me of doing just that.

all you have proven inaccurate about my statement was africa/west africa, which again is nitpicky and silly. if i seem bitter, well my apologies but i hate having my time wasted.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'd rather blame "The Black Man" for it. See how this works yet?

It doesn't work that way cause your like hasn't a position or a basis on which to blame cause it'd be futile to do so and you'd end up throwing stones and hence looking like a fool. So scapegoatism is used; A trait which, historically, has been frequently utilized by the majority in this country for a long, long time.

The Civil rights "we" have now was the result of white racism. Stuff like Equal Employment, the equality myth of any other program, and everything else was made to try to combat or at least quell white racism. The laws haven't worked at all but it's just to show you how great white hate was (or is).

So great that Federal Laws had to be passed. lol and those Federal laws still fail. Hard. Civil sh*t!

But fret not , I'd rather blame "The Black Man" for it.

Originally posted by Schecter
no i was simply pointing out the logical reality that this information you supplied is of no relevance to general ancestry of settled slaves in NE. as in the difference between 'most' and 'some'. its completely irrelevant to your attempt at debunking my statement. all you have proven is that there are exceptions to the rule. however i never argued against that, did i?

Well ok but when I gave the exception to the rule your response was this.

Originally posted by Schecter
correct. now show me where it suggests that all or even most of the slaves in that region were mandingo. in fact show me where it even begins to express the general demographic of slaves in the region. all i see is that some settled slaves in the area of the french quarter were mandingos and also nifty architects.

I thought the fact they were builders and nost just architects implied the number of mandingos that probably would have been in that area. That dont just build the places and leave they most likely lived in the houses they built. It also did say they built MOST of the buildings in the french quarter.

Originally posted by Schecter

no, we were not. you were narrowing it down to an extreme minority of black americans and then went on to accuse me of doing just that.

all you have proven inaccurate about my statement was africa/west africa, which again is nitpicky and silly. if i seem bitter, well my apologies but i hate having my time wasted.

Anyway I dont want to get into that again that went back to front.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
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I thought the fact they were builders and nost just architects implied the number of mandingos that probably would have been in that area. That dont just build the places and leave they most likely lived in the houses they built./B]

it may represent general demographics, it may not. i wouldnt presume either way as there are many possible factors involved so such a hasty conclusion would be flawed.

Originally posted by Schecter
it may represent general demographics, it may not. i wouldnt presume either way as there are many possible factors involved so such a hasty conclusion would be flawed.

Ok fair enough...but all im saying is that I think they since they built most of the buildings in the french quarter it implies alot of them. If it were one or two then yeah but that is not the case. I just think that is the most likley conclusion but I dont doubt that there could be other factors.

Anyway see what you're saying I should not have flipped out. Hate it when that happens. doh

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Phantom, go on the street and ask 100 black people what tribe their ancestors are from, and then you'll see Schecter's point.
theyll all answer the kobe bryant tribe or something like that

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
If you must now Scheter started off making the point that black Americans only knew they were from Africa, he then started to narrow it down.

It's called a generalization. Saying some amount of black people can trace their lineage doesn't prove anything. I know what my lineage is. Doesn't mean the majority do.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
theyll all answer the kobe bryant tribe or something like that

Wow.

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
It's called a generalization. Saying some amount of black people can trace their lineage doesn't prove anything. I know what my lineage is. Doesn't mean the majority do.

Ok.

Originally posted by spidey-dude
theyll all answer the kobe bryant tribe or something like that
😐

As bad of a choice he'd be for president, I loved Obama's speech he just gave on racism to stone throwing Whites.

I was kinda perplexed as to why Whites were clapping, which were the majority of the audience, but w/e. Maybe they were socialist liberals with feelings of guilt.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
As bad of a choice he'd be for president, I loved Obama's speech he just gave on racism to stone throwing Whites.

I was kinda perplexed as to why Whites were clapping, which were the majority of the audience, but w/e. Maybe they were socialist liberals with feelings of guilt.

Link.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23687688/

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
As bad of a choice he'd be for president, I loved Obama's speech he just gave on racism to stone throwing Whites.

I was kinda perplexed as to why Whites were clapping, which were the majority of the audience, but w/e. Maybe they were socialist liberals with feelings of guilt.

😱 Do you even read what you write?

"I seemingly am quite the animal..."

...but not at all, really.

I dump all of racism on the people baby around me for saying I am not the person who I wanted to be. I think people should feel okay discussing it openly. What happens to me is

#1 - People my age are worried about what their parents would think.
#2 - People older are worried that I am younger and should just need to listen.
#3 - I am alone with someone older and they are so stupid they assume this does not matter, anyway.

Then, I turn around, and it is like the Salem witch trial for and in favor of spoiled and blonde girls my age, etc.

It is a topic that will make people feel comfortable with the world of the 21st century. Everything we do, even business, alludes to it dangerously.

There are many fine lines. I "grew up" in Florida but lived in Louisiana as a teenager, and the ping pong ball goes both ways. People in Louisiana always condemned me as spoiled, though I was the least spoiled as a person. They continued in their craze like animals, and now this is all I have to talk about from my world. No one cares what I think and like anymore.

2-23-2008 - 12:16 A.M.

A good and interesting post or something to save for another day even?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I was kinda perplexed as to why Whites were clapping, which were the majority of the audience, but w/e. Maybe they were socialist liberals with feelings of guilt.

you realize the only reason Obama has a chance at being president is because white people like him?

black politicians who have ran on "black" issues have a very bad track record, mainly because these issues are not "sellable" to the "white" majority.

No one really looks "white" or human these days....

You need to look at things like does this person have a nose and why?

This one guy I talked to was like "yea, I'm white." He looked really disgusting. He was 36 and later informed me he had palsy in his arms or something. He said he was upset bc he didn't have a girl still, but I am 21. I said, maybe you are too old for me.. He said, oh, just my luck..

I told him, well, I can definitely see you are European racially.. He's like, in the end, well, you certainly look much more attractive than me.. and that younger girls don't usually tell him he looks cute as I had.

I have some new terms..

-Black European
-White European
-Black Asian
-White Asian

I don't mind a black-looking guy, but I want to be white.

Originally posted by inimalist
you realize the only reason Obama has a chance at being president is because white people like him?

black politicians who have ran on "black" issues have a very bad track record, mainly because these issues are not "sellable" to the "white" majority.

People don't care what you say basically if you are not popular and white in the eyes of the people, which does not mean oh my parents were..

People need always to say Asian vs. European and White vs. Black in the same person.

Originally posted by inimalist
you realize the only reason Obama has a chance at being president is because white people like him?

black politicians who have ran on "black" issues have a very bad track record, mainly because these issues are not "sellable" to the "white" majority.

How unfortunate is that, though. As if white issues were the only issues that mattered in this country.

haha w/e.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
How unfortunate is that, though. As if white issues were the only issues that mattered in this country.

haha w/e.

Yea, but when you write, I can't even really tell if you want to be black or white or Asian or European, or if you think European and "Asian"/black can be the same thing.. It's kind of a personal thing. I mean, we all know that.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
How unfortunate is that, though. As if white issues were the only issues that mattered in this country.

haha w/e.


You're so dumb that it hurts.

Hey, FotN, if I ran on a platform for "white issues," would you, as a Negroid, vote for me? Or do only "black issues" matter to you?

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
You're so dumb that it hurts.

Hey, FotN, if I ran on a platform for "white issues," would you, as a Negroid, vote for me? Or do only "black issues" matter to you?

I see where you are going, and some people really just do not want to spill their beans. censored ...I mean.. I would not like go up and think I have to tip my hat to the redneck culture. Some things.. just aren't that interesting.

I think it is important to preserve black culture. It is just something that the previous generation did for their kids. It should not be grounds for so-called "white kids" to tear up the classroom so-to-speak. That is the real kit. I don't like my family culture in some ways, but I go into the world wanting to be like everyone else.

Most white kids today are really just the product of "po-white-trash." It's not a point to be argued.