Racism

Originally posted by Schecter
so are hispanics genetically racist now? perhaps the entire human race is genetically racist toward black people? [with exception to black people of course, since they are practically perfect in every way, every one]

Your twists need a new twist, again.

No. Hispanics aren't genetically racist now. That's what you're asking/saying and mean. What i'm saying is is that Whites aren't the only racist. There's is just more prevalent but successfully hidden.

Reread the initial thread topic article again, if you already haven't already read it.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Your twists need a new twist, again.

No. Hispanics aren't genetically racist now. That's what you're asking/saying and mean. What i'm saying is is that Whites aren't the only racist. There's is just more prevalent but successfully hidden.

Reread the initial thread topic article again, if you already haven't already read it.

so if its not genetic with hispanics, as it is with whites (so you believe), then would that make hispanics malicious in their racism? i mean, one cannot help racism if its simply genetic.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Your twists need a new twist, again.

No. Hispanics aren't genetically racist now. That's what you're asking/saying and mean. What i'm saying is is that Whites aren't the only racist. There's is just more prevalent but successfully hidden.

Reread the initial thread topic article again, if you already haven't already read it.

Blacks aren't racist..ever 🙄

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
My point was to merely to back up what i said, with proof with what i wrote earlier about BPD corruption when i was told i was lying about it. This was racism aside. If you want i bet i can find a legit major Boston newspaper article talking about the BPD and rampant racism. But my point was to debunk a non-belief.

And? So what if he was Hispanic. Do you think Whites are the only ones whom hate Blacks? It's definitely more prevalent with Whites, and again, not all Whites are racist, but Whites aren't the only racist. And i already, and clearly, spoke about the genetic thing and you still bring that up. And you're about upward mobility? Please.

You were crying about the Boston PD not helping you and your family because you're of a black-African background and they're racist. This story proves nothing besides that the Boston PD has had/have corrupt cops, that isn't news, as bad cops exist.

If his name had been John "White Man" Smith, I'm fairly certain you would have pointed that out to further support your 'Rampant White Racism' and corruption rhetoric as you have just again said "definitely more prevalent with Whites"... and again, where are your facts to support this claim?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
What i'm saying is is that Whites aren't the only racist. There's is just more prevalent but successfully hidden.

Lol, racist.

Now there's a "hidden" agenda, you never cease to amaze with your clownery. Let me ask you something, if it's "hidden", how do you know about it?

He is trolling us all. I wish he would just be banned already.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And that thing with your school, you're only basing that off of what you've seen. What about undocumented happenings not witnessed by you.

Fat Mike put it best:

Don't call me white, Don't call me white
Don't call me white, Don't call me white

The connotations wearing my nerves thin
Could it be semantics generating the mess we're in?
I understand that language breeds stereotype
But what's the explanation for the malice, for the spite?

Don't call me white, Don't call me white
Don't call me white, Don't call me white

I wasn't brought here, I was born
Circumsized, categorized, allegiance sworn,
Does this mean I have to take such shit
For being fairskinned? No!
I ain't a part of no conspiracy,
I'm just you're average Joe.

Don't call me white, Don't call me white
Don't call me white, Don't call me white

Represents everything I hate,
The soap shoved in your mouth to cleanse the mind
The vast majority of sheep
A buttoned collar, starched and bleached
Constricting veins, the blood flow to the brain slows
They're so ****in' ordinary white

Don't call me white, Don't call me white
Don't call me white, Don't call me white

We're better off this way
Say what you're gonna say
So go ahead and label me
An ******* cause I can
Accept responsibility, for what I've done
But not for who I am

Don't call me white, Don't call me white

Originally posted by Robtard
Septimius Severus was born in what is now Libya and his mother for certain was of Roman [Italian] descent. I don't think he was black-African from the statues I've seen. Regardless though, "blacks" weren't strictly seen as a slave-race by the Romans, they enslaved all manners of people.

Well at any rate even if he was mixed race, there are other African Roman emperors such as Lucious Quietus and African Roman Popes. As you know not all africans are black so some Moors could possibly be mixed race. Some of my ancestors were Portugese and both of my parents are from W.Africa, I dont look mixed race one bit.

At the end of the day we are all mixed race to an extent.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Are you sure?? Racism must've been like a million times worse for Blacks back then, in Europe.

Er no there were black popes and Roman Emperors. Look up Lusius Queitus. There were also Black Popes.

I have looked up the first name, nothing came up in Wiki. Can't say the name sounds formiliar either. You are right though, there are several popes believed to have been black. Believed to have been being the key words here. We aren't entirely sure on it. However there is no evidence at all that romans were biased because of skin color, so there might very well have been black popes.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Did anyone else have the word "hypocrisy" flash in front of their eyes in big, bold... BLACK letters while reading this?

He won't recognize that, it would get in the way of his narrow view.

Originally posted by Fishy
I have looked up the first name, nothing came up in Wiki. Can't say the name sounds formiliar either. You are right though, there are several popes believed to have been black. Believed to have been being the key words here. We aren't entirely sure on it. However there is no evidence at all that romans were biased because of skin color, so there might very well have been black popes.

Anyway thats Lusius Quietus. It says he was a Moorish prince.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusius_Quietus

Then theres Marcus Opellius Macrinus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrinus

This is what I understand if they say such and such is of moorish decent or was a moorish something then they are black, because the moors were described as being black.

Wiki also states Septimus Severus's mother was of Roman descent so yeah you were right he was mixed race.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrinus

Well the first one wasn't an Emperor... And I never heard of the second one but that just proves I don't know every Roman emperor.

Originally posted by Fishy
Well the first one wasn't an Emperor... And I never heard of the second one but that just proves I don't know every Roman emperor.

Yeah your right. Tarajan wanted him to be Emperor but his widow stopped it from happening...my bad. Near enough though dont think he was denied for racist reasons.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah your right. Tarajan wanted him to be Emperor but his widow stopped it from happening...my bad. Near enough though dont think he was denied for racist reasons.

Romans weren't racists so you are probably right about that.

Originally posted by Fishy
Romans weren't racists so you are probably right about that.

Yeah you got to hand it to them. They were ruthless basterds but not racist. 😂

It makes you wonder how racism started, all of a sudden something happened were black people were looked down on. Ok dont get me wrong im not on some all white people are racist tip but you can obvoulsy see something happened.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah you got to hand it to them. They were ruthless basterds but not racist. 😂

It makes you wonder how racism started, all of a sudden something happened were black people were looked down on. Ok dont get me wrong im not on some all white people are racist tip but you can obvoulsy see something happened.

racism most probably has genetic roots

No it doesn't, it's a simple cultural/historical issue.

Technologically sophisticated white people discovered technologically primitve people of other colours and so assumed the reason for that was that white people were simply better.

The Romans, of course, looked down on everyone who wasn't Roman rather equally; skin colour wasn't quite the issue then.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No it doesn't, it's a simple cultural/historical issue.

Technologically sophisticated white people discovered technologically primitve people of other colours and so assumed the reason for that was that white people were simply better.

The Romans, of course, looked down on everyone who wasn't Roman rather equally; skin colour wasn't quite the issue then.

races were around long before economics or technology.

The evolution of human races is a very touchy subject. However, given that there is more genetic variance within races than accross races (white people are more genetically dissimilar to whites than they are to blacks) and that the very specific ways in which races differ is based on instantly recognizeable physical traits lends much support to this idea. In nature, it is far more likely for animals to be almost visably identacle, yet be unable to interbreed than the opposite in humans (visually dissimilar organisms can still interbreed).

Further, people are almost inately able to identify the race of another person, and this holds across cultures. People are even able to, with a high degree of accuracy, determine the race of an individual based on only a silhouette. All over the world, races are defined as black/white/aboriginal/asian/ect. This high cross cultural continuity is normally only associated with behaviours that are genetically determined.

There is also the way our brains schematize all things based on similar perceptive characteristics. It is very likely that, even if the strict genetic idea of racism is incorrect, our brains do group people of similar colour and appearance together.

Your definition also supposes that whites were the initiators of racism, which I would deny absolutly. Not that I think another race is responsable for the concept, more that all people are equally effected by their genetic dispositions to tribalistic in-grouping. Whether race is just the most evident way to in/out-group people (and therefore racism came from something else) or that the in-group/out-group mentality of proto-humans drove this type of tribalism (which I would support) it is clearly in our genetics to classify people by the way they look and to group them with others who look the same.

My post in no way says that whites were the initiators of racism. it merely explains why the majority of racist issues we have had to deal with in reasonable recent history have been from a psoition of white vs. x.

The fact that race was around before economics is completely irrelevant. It's only relevant once the different races start to mix, which only really happened once the technology required to travel far enough became widespread enough.

The situation is extremey simple.

Technologically advanced whites travelled to Africa, Australia and America and found nothing but very primitive non-whites. It is extremely significant when analysing this mindset that the reverse did not happen- Native Africans and Americans and Australians did not journey to Europe to conquer with great guns. People (well, white people) drew the simple conclusion that this was proof of white superiority, and everything we look at about racist issues today stems from that period.

In smaller ways this was repeated for most of history before that. But of course there are plenty of times when it is white people that were looked down upon. It is simkply that the vagueries of history put White cultures into the technological lead, and assumptions came around because of that.

I agree with that

I am talking prior to that however. The evolution of race 🙂

WHY are black people black, and why can I look at a black person who has a lighter skin tone than I and not have a doubt in my mind that they are black?