Racism

Originally posted by Alfheim
Again dark skin AND curly hair

Dark skin and curly hair....of so yes.

Yeah it makes some of them black. So maybe we cant say for sure that Macrinus was a black african emperor but since a significant number of Moors were described as being like black african in appearance we can still say:

1. Black Africans played a major part in helping Rome.
2. Black Africans invaded Europe and ruled over southern europe.

Some Arabs have curly hair and "dark skin"...

1) Major? I doubt that. Egypt was Rome's "bread basket" though, through force of course.
2) No, the Moors invaded Europe and ruled over Southern Europe. The Moors were not strictly "Black Africans", just as Tunisians, Libyans, Egyptians and Algerians are not strictly "Black Africans".

Originally posted by Robtard
Some Arabs have curly hair and "dark skin"...

Heard the phrase black arab? Obvoulsy must have some black DNA.

Originally posted by Robtard

1) Major? I doubt that.

Again im not sure if the emperors or generals were black in appearance but they could have been and they regulary recruited from the army and there were many Africans in a senate I dont have a time machine to check.

Originally posted by Robtard

2) No, the Moors invaded Europe and ruled over Southern Europe.

Which is what I said.

Originally posted by Robtard

The Moors were not strictly "Black Africans", just as Tunisians, Libyans, Egyptians, Algerians are not strictly "Black Africans".

Yeah well people from Mali, Chad and Niger are. So because British people occupied Canada means that the French didnt? Some of them were black africans I guess some of them werent...again going by the descritpions im verging more to black african.

Originally posted by Robtard
...and as usual, you're an idiot. I already said Caucasian South Africans are still "Africans". It had more to do with Nationality in that case than being of African descent. Uganda has (or had) a large Indian population befoe Idi Amin kicked then out.

An idiot because we are on the same side? if I'm an idiot, so are you. I am not arguing WITH you. You are wanting to argue with me, but we are saying the same thing.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
An idiot because we are on the same side? if I'm an idiot, so are you. I am not arguing WITH you. You are wanting to argue with me, but we are saying the same thing.

Erm did you think Swedes were Africans?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Erm did you think Swedes were Africans?

where did you read that?

SOME ethiopians look more like swedes then they do like africans, as some of the felasha jews (ethiopeans) look more like jews then they do africans or west africans..if you ever see or met a felasha jew, you will see the nose is the same as some of the longer hooked noses, the facial angle is the same, the build in body is the same...they look like jews with darkest tan and friz hair, moreso then they look flat nosed and wide faced and slanted eyed and full lips of the west africans, and the other ethiopians who look moreso white, the ones that look more european just look darker, the nose, the eyes, the face, the mouth/lips, the angle is all WHITE in structure, and you know damn well what i am talking about. face and nose and angle and frame is just like a white person with a dark deep tan and frizzy hair. but the thinness, the nose, the eye shape, the facial angel is ALL the same structure as a white person from Sweden. and those ethiopians are TINY, TINY people, thin frame, small pointy nose, oval face...just the same as a white person but darkest tan ever with frizzy hair. and they are thin like a lot of the swedens, don't forget, there are ethic whites who are naturally skinny and tall, this is shared among the ethiopians and certain areas in east africa, very thin and tall, long nose, pointy, tiny lips, body frame (including the buttocks) tiny and flat....they look more like dark white people then they look like west africans. sorry if i offended anybody, but that's just an observation.

when i see the pic below, i not only see a person who could be Asian, i also seen plenty of lighter or "yellow" or "red-bone" black women with the same skin texture, lips, eye formation, and over all structure of the face looks more so Asian or like this woman then she would like a dark ethiopian with white structur or facial features. so, again, i don't impose to others what race they are, they tell me what they are and how i should treat them.

http://www.karinya.com/face.htm

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
where did you read that?

SOME ethiopians look more like swedes then they do like africans, as some of the felasha jews (ethiopeans) look more like jews then they do africans or west africans, the ones that look more european just look darker, the nose, the eyes, the face, the angle is all WHITE in structure, and you know damn well what i am talking about. face and nose and angle and frame is just like them.

Ok. Thats the impresion Robtard gave. He said "Swedes are not Africans", i thought he was saying he thought you were that ignorant. Anyway forget it I understand what your saying.

Originally posted by Robtard
[b]Originally posted by FistOfThe North
What i'm saying is is that Whites aren't the only racist. There's is just more prevalent but successfully hidden.

Now there's a "hidden" agenda, you never cease to amaze with your clownery. Let me ask you something, if it's "hidden", how do you know about it? [/B]

Racism is arguably the most difficult aspect to detect in a person. One can be a textbook racist, the very definition of it, and deny it on purpose so as not to be seen as a racist cause it's now slowly becoming taboo to be a racist in the U.S., And you can't call him/her a liar cause there's no proof of it, even though it may be true. That's why i say there's a hidden agenda cause everyone once in a while it slips out and you can see it in an attitude and/or atmosphere.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Racism is arguably the most difficult aspect to detect in a person. One can be a textbook racist, the very definition of it, and deny it on purpose so as not to be seen as a racist cause it's now slowly becoming taboo to be a racist in the U.S., And you can't call him/her a liar cause there's no proof of it, even though it may be true. That's why i say there's a hidden agenda cause everyone once in a while it slips out and you can see it in an attitude and/or atmosphere.

what i am saying is that the general facial and physical structure of east Africans, esp. Ethiopians is CAUSCIASN, Caucasian doesn't mean white, it means bone structure, facial features, etc. Plenty of whites have more black features and attitudes then ever. but i have seen plenty of dark skinned Caucasians, their head shape, their eyes, their nose, their mouth, their facial composition is Caucasian, not Negro, although they have the same skin color of a lot of Negroes, but so do a lot of East Indians and native Indians. i am not saying anyone is less, i am just stating that a lot of Ethiopians that i've seen look and build is like Caucasian (more so then white, i should have said that white isn't always Caucasian), as even whites have the butts of certain features labeled as "blacks/negro" and i've seen plenty of those with darker skin then whites, who have flat buts, no lips, pointy nose, same head shape as what's considered "white" ...i think, just like others, we confuse negro with black, and Caucasian with white...when black and white is about color and SKIN DEPTH (the amount of fat under the skin and the thickness of the skin, that's why someone can be very light but somehow remind one of a negro, it's in the thickness of the skin and the amount of fat under the skin), so there is a difference between the color of the skin and the STRUCTURE of the face/body. plenty of east Africans have Caucasians structure in the face and body. but again, Ethiopia is huge and a lot of varying west Africans move there and marry and so, you see variations in these features.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok. Thats the impresion Robtard gave. He said "Swedes are not Africans", i thought he was saying he thought you were that ignorant. Anyway forget it I understand what your saying.

buddy, if you knew how much i knew about things, the entire atmosphere would be different.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
buddy, if you knew how much i knew about things, the entire atmosphere would be different.

Don't get big headed love. Just because you've got two souls, doesn't give you an excuse.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Don't get big headed love. Just because you've got two souls, doesn't give you an excuse.

it's not the big head, it's the truth, i am not afflicted with false humility or false pride. if i say i know alot, it's b/c i do, not b/c i'm proud or boastful or wanting to put someone down. if i don't know something, i will admit that too!

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Racism is arguably the most difficult aspect to detect in a person. One can be a textbook racist, the very definition of it, and deny it on purpose so as not to be seen as a racist cause it's now slowly becoming taboo to be a racist in the U.S., And you can't call him/her a liar cause there's no proof of it, even though it may be true. That's why i say there's a hidden agenda cause everyone once in a while it slips out and you can see it in an attitude and/or atmosphere.

Do you live in a KKK commune, or what?

Or are you just really annoying in real life (possible precedent somewhere) and inspire insults?

No wonder some people think race issues are everywhere- they bring them along.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Do you live in a KKK commune, or what?

Do i live in a KKK commune?, I don't know. I do know that the KKK still exist. It's just now they've moved underground. And they could be anywhere, sparsely. So no. I don't know if I've had the KKK or pro KKK people around me since i know they aren't only in the South. I have seen pro clan and Nazi demonstrations before though. I've always seen people sporting the confederate flag, which is popular in KKK culture.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Do i live in a KKK commune?, I don't know. I do know that the KKK still exist. It's just now they've moved underground. And they could be anywhere, sparsely. So no. I don't know if I've had the KKK or pro KKK people around me since i know they aren't only in the South. I have seen pro clan and Nazi demonstrations before though. I've always seen people sporting the confederate flag, which is popular in KKK culture.

i may not believe in the klan or in farrakhan, but it's a free country, people can have a flag or their club if they want, it's not up to you to censor them b/c you don't like it, leave them ALONE, IF THEY AREN'T ON YOUR LAWN OR YOUR NEIGHBOR'S LAWN TROUBLING YOU LEAVE THEM BE! plenty of blacks are racist too, just leave people alone, if someone wants to be kind, return the kindness if that's your culture to do so, but for the most part, it looks like you want them to come out of the "underground", for what? leave them alone, people have the right to assemble. they aren't harassing you are they? following you home, burning crosses on your lawn? bothering your job or income? then leave them be, ignore them.

my main issue with black culture was the bully tactics (TEARING SOMEONE OR SOMTHING DOWN, AtoZ conflict resolution), if someone wants to be left alone and they aren't bothering you LEAVE THEM ALONE. AND BLACK CULTURE DOESN'T MEAN A BLACK PERSON, anyone can be into that culture and follow the same or similar model of behavior.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
i may not believe in the klan or in farakahn, but it's a free country, people can have a flag if they want, it's not up to you to censur them b/c you don't like it, leave them ALONE, IF THEY AREN'T ON YOUR LAWN OR YOU NEIGHBOR'S LAWN TROUBLING YOU LEAVE THEM BE!

my main issue with black culture was the bully tactics, if someone wants to be left alone and they aren't bothering you LEAVE THEM ALONE. AND BLACK CULTURE DOESN'T MEAN A BLACK PERSON, anyone can be into that culture and follow the same or similar model of behavior.

How is that particularly "black culture" though?

You are just defining something negative as black culture. You are a racist.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
i may not believe in the klan or in farrakhan, but it's a free country, people can have a flag or their club if they want, it's not up to you to censor them b/c you don't like it, leave them ALONE, IF THEY AREN'T ON YOUR LAWN OR YOUR NEIGHBOR'S LAWN TROUBLING YOU LEAVE THEM BE! plenty of blacks are racist too, just leave people alone, if someone wants to be kind, return the kindness if that's your culture to do so, but for the most part, it looks like you want them to come out of the "underground", for what? leave them alone, people have the right to assemble. they aren't harassing you are they? following you home, burning crosses on your lawn? bothering your job or income? then leave them be, ignore them.

my main issue with black culture was the bully tactics (TEARING SOMEONE OR SOMTHING DOWN, AtoZ conflict resolution), if someone wants to be left alone and they aren't bothering you LEAVE THEM ALONE. AND BLACK CULTURE DOESN'T MEAN A BLACK PERSON, anyone can be into that culture and follow the same or similar model of behavior.

Bully tactics?

Rosa Parkes and Martin Luther King are most probably turning in their graves now.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Bully tactics?

Rosa Parkes and Martin Luther King are most probably turning in their graves now.

those two individuals speak for themselves, they dont' represent all black people, ask the blacks that are dead b/c of black-on-black crime...

i just wonder why the turn of events became more friendly?? someone got what they wanted maybe?

Well to be fair, if all crime involving white people only was called white-on-white crime, 'black-on-black crime' would be about as newsworthy as shoplifting.

It's just another example of language use affecting what should be logical thought processes.

i am not debating anymore, as i know what it's about now, and i know these things are effected, so, no, i won't try to debate which race has more crime and which has less. i am tired and again, i already know the games being played, as this is the reason why the dogs were called off of me.