6th hokage

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iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Prove it.

And Orcihimaru's word is not > Kakashi's. Also Naruto's training to learn the Rasengan > Anything we've seen Sausgay do.

It was stated plenty of times that some of the demons chakra is always fused with Narutos look it up buddy. Calling his Sausgay is so immature and proves that you are biased stop with the childish spite plus Orcihimaru's knowledge > Kakashi's knowledge any day somebody please prove me wrong. Like i said as far as training it's up to opinion to who trains harder but you are biased so who cares about biased opinions.

Blax_Hydralisk Restricted

"It was stated plenty of times loloollolololol"

Prove it. And I'll say whatever the hell I want. Niether I and, and probably V2D, care what you think of me/us.

And no, Orichimaru is not omniscient. He is a fallible third party character just like everyone else. The difference is that Kakashi and Jiraiya have both seen Naruto train and fight, Orichimaru has just seen him fight a couple of times. Big difference.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
He was in the process of losing to Kimimaro before Lee showed up, that doesn't mean he lost the match. In almost all of his matches he starts off losing but eventually beats his opponent, I'm pretty sure he was restrained by Yamato. He forced him to revert back. Otherwise, he wasn't beaten. Last I checked Naruto and Sasuke did what they were suppsoed to do, free Kakashi, and then kakashi whooped his ass. And Naruto threw the fight with Sasuke.He only lost because he wasn't willing to go the extra step, like Sasuke was. He wasn't giving his all.
Well I guess Kimimaro really didn't have a way to beat Naruto either so I guess you do have a point. Plus he wasn't really concentrating on Kimimaro also so I take that one back. Naruto refused Kyuubi's help when they find Sasuke with Yamato not that Yamato was holding it in but I meant when Sasuke leaves Konoha. Even if Naruto was holding back he was still koed which means Sasuke had the power to knock out one-tailed Naruto cause he can't really hold back his durability. He wanted him to stay so he didn't really throw the fight he didn't want to kill just try to beat him so he couldn't go while Sasuke was out for the kill.

King Kandy Senior Member

Oh, how about Kakashi saying "It's the nine tailed fox that makes his stamina so amazing" when he was getting Ebisu to teach him...

That sounds like a conclusive statement if i've ever heard one.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
"It was stated plenty of times loloollolololol"

Prove it. And I'll say whatever the hell I want. Niether I and, and probably V2D, care what you think of me/us.

And no, Orichimaru is not omniscient. He is a fallible third party character just like everyone else. The difference is that Kakashi and Jiraiya have both seen Naruto train and fight, Orichimaru has just seen him fight a couple of times. Big difference.

Orichimaru has studied the demons because he is an Akatsuki member so he knows alot about it his former partner if im not mistaken was Itachi who is assigned to take Naruto's demon so Orichimarus knows alot about the fox and his potential. Plus he did fight Naruto even sealed his chakra.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by King Kandy
Oh, how about Kakashi saying "It's the nine tailed fox that makes his stamina so amazing" when he was getting Ebisu to teach him...

That sounds like a conclusive statement if i've ever heard one.

Score another one for the Sentry kid.

yungz22 In shrouded judgement

i say shikamaru would be a good candidate

Blax_Hydralisk Restricted
Originally posted by Kento
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Even if Naruto was holding back he was still koed which means Sasuke had the power to knock out one-tailed Naruto cause he can't really hold back his durability.

True he was KO'd, but my point was that Naruto lost because he wasn't willing kill. If Naruto was so desperate to win the fight that he was willing to kill, like Sasuke, he would have just killed him before Sasuke transformed to curse-seal lvl 2. However, he didn't, and when they collided with there respective techniques Naruto aimed for Sasuke's headband while Sasuke aimed for his heart.

[quote]"It's the nine tailed fox that makes his stamina so amazing" when he was getting Ebisu to teach him...


That quote still doesn't contradict anything being said, though.. He simply states that Naruto's endurance at that point was high because of the Kyuubi chakra, however that doesn't directly state that Naruto's chakra is high without it. Actually, he also states later (Or earlier.) That Naruto's normal non-Kyuubi enhanced chakra is twice his own. So as far as kakashi's concerned, it would seem to be that Naruto's regular chakra is already great, and the Kyuubi just makes it completely insanely high.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
True he was KO'd, but my point was that Naruto lost because he wasn't willing kill. If Naruto was so desperate to win the fight that he was willing to kill, like Sasuke, he would have just killed him before Sasuke transformed to curse-seal lvl 2. However, he didn't, and when they collided with there respective techniques Naruto aimed for Sasuke's headband while Sasuke aimed for his heart.

That quote still doesn't contradict anything being said, though.. He simply states that Naruto's endurance at that point was high because of the Kyuubi chakra, however that doesn't directly state that Naruto's chakra is high without it. Actually, he also states later (Or earlier.) That Naruto's normal non-Kyuubi enhanced chakra is twice his own. So as far as kakashi's concerned, it would seem to be that Naruto's regular chakra is already great, and the Kyuubi just makes it completely insanely high.

You keep saying the same thing we what you mean but we believe something else point taken but if some of the demons chakra isn't fused with Naruto's how is he able to heal so fast? I think it's the fox's chakra that is mixed with Narutos own reserves.

Blax_Hydralisk Restricted

When he heals, THATS the Kyuubi's chakra at work. I'm not debating that. But at the same time, even without isng the Kyuubi's chakra at all Naruto still has an above average chakra reserve.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by iceman24567
You keep saying the same thing we what you mean but we believe something else point taken but if some of the demons chakra isn't fused with Naruto's how is he able to heal so fast? I think it's the fox's chakra that is mixed with Narutos own reserves.
He's able to heal because he has the fox inside of him not because they are the same chakra. After Kakashi says the whole Naruto having twice his chakra he says that with Kyuubi's chakra he'd has hundreds of times his chakra. They are different. If they are the same why are they different colors also? And why does he get so much stronger when he uses Kyuubi's chakra? And why does he ask the Fox for chakra if they are meshed?

Blax_Hydralisk Restricted

I empahsize Kento's last point. If the Kyuubi and Naruto's chakra were constantly being melded together then why does Naruto have to ask the Kyuubi to let him use it?

Sol Valentine ~Magnificent Ruffian~

Kimimaro would make a good Hokage.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
When he heals, THATS the Kyuubi's chakra at work. I'm not debating that. But at the same time, even without isng the Kyuubi's chakra at all Naruto still has an above average chakra reserve.
Says you. You stated your opinion and i think otherwise because Naruto does have control over which chakra reserve to use so it has me to believe that the demons leaked chakra that is now apart of Narutos own reserve heals Naruto.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by Kento
He's able to heal because he has the fox inside of him not because they are the same chakra. After Kakashi says the whole Naruto having twice his chakra he says that with Kyuubi's chakra he'd has hundreds of times his chakra. They are different. If they are the same why are they different colors also? And why does he get so much stronger when he uses Kyuubi's chakra? And why does he ask the Fox for chakra if they are meshed?
It's a fact they don't have the same chakra reserve i said it a million times if you were reading. What i said was the some of the Demons chakra was leaked out into Narutos making his own reserve a large mixture of both. I personally think the mixture heals him not just because the demon is in him.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by iceman24567
It's a fact they don't have the same chakra reserve i said it a million times if you were reading. What i said was the some of the Demons chakra was leaked out into Narutos making his own reserve a large mixture of both. I personally think the mixture heals him not just because the demon is in him.
No Naruto's is his own. He uses up what the Kyuubi's gives him when he uses it he doesn't store it in his chakra until he needs it again to make himself more powerful. He use to pull Kyuubi's chakra then use it up to fight. Now he's basically refusing Kyuubi's help and he's still able to create a jutsu not even Kakashi could.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by Kento
No Naruto's is his own. He uses up what the Kyuubi's gives him when he uses it he doesn't store it in his chakra until he needs it again to make himself more powerful. He use to pull Kyuubi's chakra then use it up to fight. Now he's basically refusing Kyuubi's help and he's still able to create a jutsu not even Kakashi could.
Ok fine obviously we can't come to a a mutual agreement point taken. Back to the Hokage thing. I still think Sakura would make a good Hokage.

Kento The last Hokage

Eh I haven't seen Sakura do anything to get that position. She may be a good medical ninja and have good chakra control but she's not really up for that with anything else. I still think out of the rookie 9 Shikamaru has the best abilities to do it if he was motivated to do it. If Shikamaru's father is anything like him he could probably do it. I think Hinata's father would have a shot..though I really don't think I'd want him leading Konoha like the way he leads the Hyuuga family. Everything would be split up. The elite and the slaves.

Sol Valentine ~Magnificent Ruffian~

Shino's dad.

iceman24567 Senior Member

I know Shikamaru would make a good Hokage. Tsunade seem like a mix of Shikamaru and Tsunade actually short tempered, Lazy, intelligent and protective of the people close to her.