Killing in comics

Originally posted by Creshosk
did I say will? No, I said has.

Go ahead, read it again, you'll see that I'm correct.

"Let's discard probability based on the past. That way I'll have a valid point. 🙂"

W00t yay for red herrings and equivocation. durw00t

whoryay for ineffective justice. durw00t

Are you intentionally misinterpriting things? If I'd calimed this you'd have a point. as I ddidn't, you don't. doped

Oh of course not. You stopped them temporarily, which is the same thing as stopping them permenantly. 🙂

You know what one definition for insanity is?

Trying the same thing over and over expecting different results. 🙂

The past is so annoying, and it has no way to dertimine the future. Lets just discard it as it doesn't fit with my beliefs. 🙂

You are naive. 🙂

Nope not falling for that loaded question.

Or you don't knowyourself as well as you think you do. 🙂

Still following up on the classic denial against an uncomfortable accusation? How cliche of you. 👆

So then I guess we are to assume that these people will be kill in the future. I guess our legal system is all messed up because we do not do that. I mean I guess Rapist one should be convicted and sentenced for all those other rapes he is bound to commit.

It's not getting rid of the past it is just realizing the future is not decipherable nor can it be taken as factual information when determining things.

You haven't said that if I were to allow a killer to live that any future murders of their wouldn't be my fault and that I am naive to think that way?

Apparently I read you wrong all this time although I haven't you have said that is is factually the truth they are.

And not falling for a loaded question why is it a loaded question it is the truth. There is no fact about the future as you stating unless you would be willing to try someone for something they haven't done yet. If could then it would be factual but you can't.

No loaded question just showing what a person does from when you stop them to whatever happens after that isn't your fault because those murders are things that aren't fact.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yes. you favor the life of the serial killer.

What would you pick the life of one serial killer or the lives of five innocents?

One dies, the other lives. Which do you choose?

neither do I , who said that it was factually?

Yes because the past is so annoying. 🙂

That has never been the point I would prefer everyone live because I can not take a human life.

Now ask me this and this one will probably make you mad as hell.

Would I defend the life of a Serial Killer if he was endanger of being killed. And the answer yes I would.

Originally posted by Newjak
Why would I have to pick this I would do my best to save everyone or stop the serial killer if he is trying to kill five people.

That has never been the point I would prefer everyone live because I can not take a human life.

Now ask me this and this one will probably make you mad as hell.

Would I defend the life of a Serial Killer if he was endanger of being killed. And the answer yes I would.

Wow thats kinda.........just wow.

Originally posted by Switch 07
Wow thats kinda.........just wow.

And you know what if it then fine I can deal with it. You guys obviously can not deal with the fact I would come to the conclusions I have.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yes for Ted Bundy how many other convicted Murderers and Serial Killers have been put behind bars never to be heard from again.

How many serial killers that were killed have killed agian afterwards?

Originally posted by Newjak
So then I guess we are to assume that these people will be kill in the future. I guess our legal system is all messed up because we do not do that. I mean I guess Rapist one should be convicted and sentenced for all those other rapes he is bound to commit.

"W00t yay for red herrings and equivocation.durw00t" Did you not understand?

Originally posted by Newjak
It's not getting rid of the past it is just realizing the future is not decipherable nor can it be taken as factual information when determining things.

Serial killers can't escape, we discarded the past. imprisonment is ideal and 100% effective. Discarding the past lets that happen. 🙂

Originally posted by Newjak
You haven't said that if I were to allow a killer to live that any future murders of their wouldn't be my fault and that I am naive to think that way?

Originally posted by Newjak
Apparently I read you wrong all this time although I haven't you have said that is is factually the truth they are.

Originally posted by Newjak
And not falling for a loaded question why is it a loaded question it is the truth.

Originally posted by Newjak
There is no fact about the future as you stating unless you would be willing to try someone for something they haven't done yet. If could then it would be factual but you can't.

Well other that the fact that dead serial killers won't kill people in the future. 🙂

Originally posted by Newjak
No loaded question just showing what a person does from when you stop them to whatever happens after that isn't your fault because those murders are things that aren't fact.

Originally posted by Creshosk
John wayne Gacy, Albert Fish, Velma Barfield.. oh wait they were all executed.

How many serial killers that were killed have killed agian afterwards?

What part of

"W00t yay for red herrings and equivocation.durw00t" Did you not understand?

Yeah because the past is alousy predictor of the future... its so annoying to see what could happen based on what has happened.

Serial killers can't escape, we discarded the past. imprisonment is ideal and 100% effective. Discarding the past lets that happen. 🙂

Quote me on it. and remember I had to have said the word fact, because you were caliming I said it was fact. 🙂

Nope, the only things I claimed are fact are things that happened in the past, not the conclusions based on those facts. I never said my conclusions were fact. 🙂

It being a loaded question is very much the truth, I agree. 🙂

And quote me where I said things that happened in the future are fact..

Well other that the fact that dead serial killers won't kill people in the future. 🙂

Quote me where I said it was fact. 🙂

Originally posted by Newjak
Why would I have to pick this I would do my best to save everyone or stop the serial killer if he is trying to kill five people.

You pick the five people to live the serial killer dies.

Originally posted by Newjak
That has never been the point I would prefer everyone live because I can not take a human life.

Originally posted by Newjak
Now ask me this and this one will probably make you mad as hell.

Would I defend the life of a Serial Killer if he was endanger of being killed. And the answer yes I would.

Isn't that fantastic? Johnny, why don't you tell him what he's won?

Johnny: He's won the serial killers future victims blood on his hands!

Isn't that lovely folks? Join us again next week where we hope that someone who claims they value human life will pick the one that's actually worth more. 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
PIck one. if you pick the serial killer to live he goes and kills those five people. 🙂

You pick the five people to live the serial killer dies.

Sorry, what you prefer and reality don't agree. 🙂

Congratulations. You condone the serial killer killing more victims. durw00t

Isn't that fantastic? Johnny, why don't you tell him what he's won?

Johnny: He's won the serial killers future victims blood on his hands!

Isn't that lovely folks? Join us again next week where we hope that someone who claims they value human life will pick the one that's actually worth more. 🙂

Like I said I would try and save everyone I could

But just for fun I guess the word fact doesn't get used here right doped

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's a nice way to sooth your concience for allowing a serial killer to kill more victims. People can still be indirectly responsible. "Negligent homicide" comes to mind.

IT doesn't change the fact that by allowing the serial killer to live any murders they commit will still be indirectly on your hands. Had you killed them the people they killed afterwards would still be alive. So you still gave more value to that serial killer's life than those of his victims. Because sparing his life cost those of his victims theirs.

Tell you what all you people with your holier than thou morals keep your principles and arrogance while innocent people die needlessly.

Me I'll accept responsibility for my actions and the guilt and sin that comes with it but I'll be the one doing what needs to be done and willing to sacrifice my precious innocents to save others.

That sound about right?

Originally posted by Entity
Tell you what all you people with your holier than thou morals keep your principles and arrogance while innocent people die needlessly.

Me I'll accept responsibility for my actions and the guilt and sin that comes with it but I'll be the one doing what needs to be done and willing to sacrifice my precious innocents to save others.

That sound about right?

I'm not saying its right or even ok but sometimes you have to do what needs to be done to do whats right.
Even if that means sacrificing your own morality to do whats necessary.

Originally posted by Entity
I'm not saying its right or even ok but sometimes you have to do what needs to be done to do whats right.
Even if that means sacrificing your own morality to do whats necessary.

The only thing I'm upset about is the fact you guys keep attacking me like my beliefs cause me to the death hundreds and like you guys have absolute facts that my Beliefs means that anyone who dies is on my hands.

Originally posted by Newjak
If thats what you believe I don't have a problem with it.

What if someone gained Hulk like power?
Yea I realize it will almost definitely never happen but what if it did?

People need to remember this is comic world.

Originally posted by Entity
And I don't have a problem with what you believe in fact I completely understand it. I just can't see how when push come to shove you can stand by and not stop something like that form continuing.

What if someone gained Hulk like power?
Yea I realize it will almost definitely never happen but what if it did?

I can not take life no matter what and honestly this has nothing to do with me wanting to be more moral than the next guy I truly do not believe in killing.

Originally posted by Switch 07
People need to remember this is comic world.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yep you never stated that the future victims of a Srial Killer wouldn't be on my hands as fact.

Like I said I would try and save everyone I could

But just for fun I guess the word fact doesn't get used here right doped

I guess it does 🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
oh so close... but thanks for playing. Better luck lnext time. 🙂

Originally posted by Newjak
If the Future isn't fact then how would it be my fault for anybody the Killer has since killed after I have stopped them. 🙂

I honestly don't think a hero killing a villain is THAT big of a deal. I mean if I saw a thug trying to mug an old lady and intervened and in the ensuing fight the thug was killed would that mean that I should be prosecuted for it? The villains are typically TRYING to kill the hero and/or others in the area, so most of the time it would fall under the heading of Justifiable Homicide. Now I don't think that the hero should go and kill the villain in cold blood after he's beaten, but killing him during the fight is fair game IMO.