Originally posted by Fire Ninja
-I don't really care of members of some forum do not hold my word. This isn't a popularity contest or High-School. We've seen Iron Man constantly deal with Class 100 hundreds and succeed. Yet, according to you he's not that strong. Your opinion is irrelevant to what has been shown.
No, it’s not a popularity contest. It’s a forum filled with individuals who are far more knowledgeable in comics than you are. Ask any one and they’ll gladly point out to you why Surfer being in the same ranking as Spider-Man alone proves the fallacy of using that rating as proof of any thing.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
-What instances, you mean the ones you do not post. If your making the claim, then the burden of proof is on you. Infact, those comics don't even show any real fights. Fantastic Four #26 had a 2 panel dog pile fight, which attacks of tony's were shown to be ineffective there. . . His bum rushing skills?
His so-called physical might if you will…
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
-Except that he has lifted him of the floor, and finished him with a punch that will burn out his armor. Or weaken him with several attacks and finish him off.
Except you continually forget three important factors:
1.)Lifting Hulk off the ground and spinning him around doesn’t weaken him in any way, nor does it mean any one else’s attacks will all of a sudden hurt him a lot more than they previously would have.
2.)Hulk won’t weakening from Iron Man’s attacks because of his healing factor.
3.)Hulk will undoubtedly get more pissed off, thus getting stronger, more durable, more damage resistant, and more likely to take Tony out with a thunderclap.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
-Why, because you say so?
No, common sense does.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
1) Despite the fact Hulk is spinning like a top and could not escape, and was eventually subdued? If your claiming he could escape, then fine I agree. But, if your claiming that he was not restricted, I would to see some proof besides your unsupported post.2) Post some scans of this "Very Little" time. Because., I've never seen Hulk bust out a field of that magnitude in mere seconds. Furthermore, the spinning would disorient him and it proves his attack was effective since it caused Hulk to be subdued.
I don’t need to prove any thing. You’re claiming that Iron Man could restrict Hulk’s limbs are based on what, the fact that he could lift him up using the iron in his blood and spin him around?
Nothing about that exactly screams “Master of Magnetism.”
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
😆First Scan:
Even though, the Hulk is shown to be on one knee after the punch?
You call that ineffective, tell me who else can do that in one punch?
On one knee, but totally unharmed. Yeah, I bet Hulk was shaking in his shorts right there.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Furthermore, Iron Man's one punch failing to K.O. him means all his attacks are ineffective? So, with that logic, if Hulk does not one shot Iron Man, his attacks are ineffective by your logic.
No, the fact that he himself admits that his attack is ineffective… proves it’s ineffective.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Second Scan: Not regular Hulk, he's been separated by banner and is stronger.
And yet it still seems to be a recurring pattern throughout their history.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Third Scan: Not Classic, I don't care. . .No post mordern Age comics.
I don’t care that you don’t care. It changes nothing.
It’s just yet another example of how Tony’s attacks don’t phase Hulk in the slightest.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Fourth: Once again, your simple reasoning comes into play. Iron-Man has more then one type of repulsors. If Hulks shrugs it off, that's fine. But, it's funny that the next panel shows Iron Man Knocking down the Hulk. . .so, much for ineffective attacks. You act like unless all of Iron Mans attacks send hulk flying, they are all ineffective.
Iron Man- “Yes, I managed to actually move the Hulk a few inches back! Bring on the Juggernaut!”
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
-Where are these consistent High-end showings. I'm still waiting for them and they are no where to be found. Show me Hulk consistently Taking Nuke level attacks, Like you stated.-Please list them, I've been asking for them for awhile now. Show me Hulks mass quantity of High-End feats out weighing his low ones.
-According to you, with no scans at all.
Well, if you want a shitload of scans, you’re more than welcome to visit his respect thread, ‘cause I’m not going through the trouble of bringing it to you.
And before you start bitching to me about how the respect thread only has ridiculously high-end feats, you also have to take 3 things into consideration:
1.)that you need to learn to differentiate between ridiculously high-end feats (i.e. Hulk withstand an attack that ripped apart a cosmos) and the tamer high-end feats (i.e. Hulk taking a nuclear detonation unharmed).
2.)that that it also contains more of these high-end feats than you can possibly think of for his low end feats
3.)since you love averaging feats together so much, you should have no problems averaging out low-end instances like Hulk being taken out by a bomb and a snake with redciously high-end instances like Hulk withstanding a cosmos and being charged through an asteroid 2X the size of Earth completely unharmed.
The rest, like Hulk consistently taking massive explosion and not being dazed should be more acceptable to you then.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
That was just to get the ball rolling. I'm still waiting for these vast amount of High-End feats that over shadow his low ends in quantity. We still have him:-Being K.O.ed by The wrecker
-Being K.O'ed By Doc Samson
-Being hurt By Captain america
Et Cetera. . .I have more, I'm just waiting for you to follow suit. If you cannot then your simply being irrational.
-Irrelevant. Apparently the Wrecking Crew was also able to easily subdue Dr. Strange in that same issue.
-Except Samson only did so when Hulk thought he was an illusion and wasn;t even thinking about fighting, so Samson managed to cheapshot him. If you take those instances into consideration, Hulk’s done the same to both Thor and Surfer.
-Cap hurts every body. We’re talking about the guy who briefly knocked around King Thor using nothing but the power of patriotism,
Son.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Superman is the most inconsistent character in comics, he has no barring in this thread
Superman’s nothing special. It happens to
every one in comics. Wonder Woman’s taken punches from Doomsday, Captain Marvel, and Superman and gotten back up just fine; but she’s been knocked out by a simple bullet to the head. Same deal with Thor, who’s taken blows from the likes of Hulk, Hercules, and even Sky-Fathers, yet he’s been knocked out by a bullet before. Juggernaut’s been able to charge War Hulk through the desert, yet he’s been stopped by cement.
You could name just about any one and they’ll have had their highs and their lows.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
And, I've countered:-They do not have to hurt him, they subdued him.
-Except the fact that he was subdued
-Doesn't have to be, I never said it would Hold. It would just restrain him long enough for him to be K.O.ed by that super punch. If Thor Had time
- except they do have to do something other than that. Otherwise, it’s nothing but an annoyance to Hulk. In a one-on-one, Hulk could simply pull out the ol’ thunderclap. In this thread, even if Hulk doesn’t do any thing, Iron Man is just left spinning him around until Surfer or Srange or Namor takes him out from behind
-which doesn’t translate into him not being able to move his limbs. Tony isn’t Magneto and he hasn’t shown any where near the kind of control that he can do more than simply lift Hulk up in the air.
-where the hell do you get your reasoning that Hulk gets weaker when he’s in the air? You honestly think Hulk being spun around is going to suddenly make him lose strength or something?
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
What "Trickery" did the wrecker use?
Feel free to point out Wrecker on that list of people I gave.
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Juggernaut cuaght him by suprise, that's all. . . Besides, Juggy>Hulk.
And tricked him into not fighting back; he even admitted it himself. Or do I need to point out to you again that Hulk doesn’t throw a single punch the entire time?
Originally posted by Fire Ninja
Abomination steam rolled the Hulk, Banner had to use a machine to weaken him. That's the only reason why the Hulk won.
Against original Abomination (though he did manage to handle original Abomination when they fought again because of the Galaxy Master).
But again, feel free to point out where I said original Abomination, because I thought I made it clear I wasn;t referring to original Abomination in that list.
