^ ok now i understand what ur trying to say, when you said "Jenova in FF VII was not Sephiroth" you made it seem like it wasnt Sephiroth at all, it was Jenova in FFVII, it was Sephiroth though.
Sephiroth WAS doing all that stuff throughout the world; HOWEVER, his actual physical body was in the northern cave, but it was still Sephiroth out there.
Anything relevant and important happened while I was gone?
Anyway, has anyone make points for:
1. How Sephiroth is cutting through Samus' armor, let alone barrier?
2. How he's avoiding diffusion missiles, a P. Bomb combo (those things have no delay as of Fusion), and/or screw attack spam? Close range was mentioned heavily, so the likeliness of getting caught with any of those is a high possibility (and he's surviving none of them)
3. If Sephiroth does have intangibility (which he doesn't), how does that help here? Samus can hit intangibles. She has already.
1. He's freakin Sephiroth, a god isn't going to have a hard time getting through a mere shield. If anything one hit would completely destroy it, he certainly has the force to do that.
2. Once again, he's a god. He can teleport and move too fast to be seen in his weakest form, Samus' weapons and attacks are slow and silly jokes to him.
3. He's not intangible, but she's be dead before she could hope to hit him. Even then if she miraculously could hit him, her attacks would tickle Seph.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
1. He's freakin Sephiroth, a god isn't going to have a hard time getting through a mere shield. If anything one hit would completely destroy it, he certainly has the force to do that.
Feats proving he can... otherwise "he's a god" has as much weight here as air.
2. Once again, he's a god. He can teleport and move too fast to be seen in his weakest form, Samus' weapons and attacks are slow and silly jokes to him.
Spinespark, P. Bomb combo, and/or screw attack really aren't jokes. They're far to threatening to Sephiroth for him to ever laugh at them.
3. He's not intangible, but she's be dead before she could hope to hit him. Even then if she miraculously could hit him, her attacks would tickle Seph.
I'm still waiting for proof on how he breaks her armor, let alone her barrier. Let me guess...
"God" is your proof?
I see you're quite unfamiliar with Sephiroth.
1. For starters the creators of him said he was a god, so tht holds as much weight as cement. Speaking of cement, Sephiroth goes through the hardest and strongest materials as if they were butter, and with enough force to cause them to burst into flames, and that is while he isn't even putting forth any effort. If he put a little more back into it, he would go completely through Samus with one motion.
2. Yes they are. In his weakest form Sephiroth was walking around minutes after being impaled on a 14 inch wide blade, a wound that damaged many of his organs and severed his spinal cord. There is not a single thing Samus could do to make Sephiroth see her as a threat.
3. He has gone through harder to destroy objects with enough force to cause them to ignite when he isn't even trying. If he tried he'd go through Samus like butter.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
I see you're quite unfamiliar with Sephiroth.1. For starters the creators of him said he was a god, so tht holds as much weight as cement. Speaking of cement, Sephiroth goes through the hardest and strongest materials as if they were butter, and with enough force to cause them to burst into flames, and that is while he isn't even putting forth any effort. If he put a little more back into it, he would go completely through Samus with one motion.
No, saying he is god holds no weight AT ALL.
Concrete is the hardest and strongest material?
Because Samus would be harmed by a concrete cutter who burns things?
2. Yes they are. In his weakest form Sephiroth was walking around minutes after being impaled on a 14 inch wide blade, a wound that damaged many of his organs and severed his spinal cord. There is not a single thing Samus could do to make Sephiroth see her as a threat.
Are you sure you understand that being wounded by a sword does not make you durable enough to take explosions and plasma.
You are a very sad person.
3. He has gone through harder to destroy objects with enough force to cause them to ignite when he isn't even trying. If he tried he'd go through Samus like butter.
Because cutting concrete means you can cut through Samus' armor? This is new to me.
AC Sephiroth cannot bleed or die. This is explained by these facts:
1. He didn't bleed or get wounded by Omnislash.
2. His existence is unperishable, so he can't die and is immortal.
As I said earlier, if Sephiroth was going all out on Samus then he'd simply use his telekinesis to null any and all of her attacks against him, or he'd simply immobilize her and strip her. He made a building collapse with his mind ffs. 😬
Nevermind his spells (Firaga, Blizzaga, Thundaga, Stopga, Pale Horse which inflicts ever known status in the VII verse) and his Supernova which would vaporize Samus.
Originally posted by Terryc250
Why did someone even compare Samus to Sephiroth? Samus fights like little bugs for god sakes, and she can even be harmed by them, Sephiroth is on a totally completely different level, Samus cant even dream about taking on Chaos or Weiss, and shes being compared to Sephiroth? Lol
That's one big little bug.
I wonder if people are serious when they make post like this. Seriously.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Not really. If he can bleed and die, then Samus can kill him.And Keollyn, I say this with as little intended offense as possible.. but you sure do have an aggressive debating style for someone who just joined a couple days ago.. that is suspicious, to say the least.
What does it matter when I joined? If I'm an aggressive debater, I'll be one on day one all the way until I quit the forums. And just to let you know, I'm only aggressive towards ignorance (which is quite abundant here)
Oh, and I've been here next to 20 days.
Originally posted by Keollyn
What does it matter when I joined? If I'm an aggressive debater, I'll be one on day one all the way until I quit the forums.
Eh, it doesn't matter at all. It's just unusual, is all.
And just to let you know, I'm only aggressive towards ignorance (which is quite abundant here)
I'm afraid, then. I take ignorance and stupidity in debates to new heights. Ask Shin_Queer above you.
Originally posted by Keollyn
Oh, and I've been here next to 20 days.
bah, I use the term lightly.. regardless of the fact that it's not a term.
No, saying he is god holds no weight AT ALL.Concrete is the hardest and strongest material?
Because Samus would be harmed by a concrete cutter who burns things?
You're really bad at comprehending what you read. I didn't say concrete was the hardest substance, I used concrete as an analogy and then as a segue to hard substances.
Sephiroth's creators say he is a god, therefore he is a god and the statement holds more weight than your unsubstantiated opinion. Samus is a mortal, therefore she is clearly disadvantaged.
If weak little aliens can hurt Samus, Sephiroth would bisect her with one cut.
Are you sure you understand that being wounded by a sword does not make you durable enough to take explosions and plasma.You are a very sad person.
I work in the emergency room, I see bad injuries all the time. I'm going to tell you right now, I would much rather be burned or be near an explosion than be impaled on the buster sword. I have a good chance of surviving the first two, I'm guaranteed death with the sword.
And then you still have to take into account the fact that Samus wouldn't be able to hit Sephiroth. And as stated above, even if she could he'd chuckle at it.
What's sad is your lack of not only reading comprehension, but also logic.
Because cutting concrete means you can cut through Samus' armor? This is new to me.
You really need to work on that comprehension thing. Sephiroth cuts through not just concrete(and not just any concrete, chunks 50 feet thick), but also reinforced alloy girders that can hold up huge skyscrapers, and in his weakest form he slices through a canon, made of a metal that is strong enough to withstand firing enough energy to melt through anything else, without even making contact with it, his slash has enough force to slice through it with no blade contact.
Its safe to say Samus would get her ass whooped in no time flat.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
You're really bad at comprehending what you read. I didn't say concrete was the hardest substance, I used concrete as an analogy and then as a segue to hard substances.
And your efforts were pretty piss poor.
Sephiroth's creators say he is a god, therefore he is a god and the statement holds more weight than your unsubstantiated opinion. Samus is a mortal, therefore she is clearly disadvantaged.
lol.
lol.
lol.
This is your argument? Samus is mortal and Sephiroth is god, therefore Samus loses?
Again, ignorance is a specialty around here.
If weak little aliens can hurt Samus, Sephiroth would bisect her with one cut.
Yeah, sure. Concrete cutting is going far against Samus.
I work in the emergency room, I see bad injuries all the time. I'm going to tell you right now, I would much rather be burned or be near an explosion than be impaled on the buster sword. I have a good chance of surviving the first two, I'm guaranteed death with the sword.
You'll survive heat hot enough to melt away a Space Pirate, or concussive force able to break through a substance harder than diamond?
Why aren't you in a comic?
And then you still have to take into account the fact that Samus wouldn't be able to hit Sephiroth. And as stated above, even if she could he'd chuckle at it.
Wow! Sephiroth's that durable now? Still haven't run into a feat where he can tank her power beam... let alone her screw attack or power bomb.
What's sad is your lack of not only reading comprehension, but also logic.
Is this logic inferior to your concrete = hardest and strongest material?
You really need to work on that comprehension thing. Sephiroth cuts through not just concrete(and not just any concrete, chunks 50 feet thick), but also reinforced alloy girders that can hold up huge skyscrapers, and in his weakest form he slices through a canon, made of a metal that is strong enough to withstand firing enough energy to melt through anything else, without even making contact with it, his slash has enough force to slice through it with no blade contact.
Umm... the cannon feat isn't canon. Virtual reality, holographic, training simulations tend to make that the case. Don't fall back on a non-existent feat. It's not pretty.
I know of building construction. He's cutting through concrete. At best, he's cutting through a few rebars. The tensile strength of rebars aren't makeups for the "hardest and strongest" material.
And jsut to inform you... if you think cutting "metal" is enough to cut down Samus, then you're pretty much living in a fanatasy world.
Its safe to say Samus would get her ass whooped in no time flat.
If Sephiroth could actually cut her.
He doesn't have to cut her to win. He has telekinesis which he used to take down a skyscraper, and spells, Stopga (Time Stoppage) Pale Horse (which inflicts every known status, such as poison and petrification) and I think when he said he won't get hit by Samus he referred to Sephiroth's speed, which in the video in the opening post is remarkable (referring to when Sephiroth charged Genesis after launching him in the air) and in Crisis Core he moves fast enough in the game that it looks like he's teleporting. Also, if Sephiroth's slices would not cut through Samus's armor, they'll at least break through her visor and damage her vision.
Originally posted by shin_gear
He doesn't have to cut her to win.
Most of the focus has been that Sephiroth can cut down Samus. That's why I'm arguing that he can't.
He has telekinesis which he used to take down a skyscraper
Huh?
Stopga (Time Stoppage)
When did he have this? And isn't this game mechanics? I'm forced to use cutscene, so everyone else should too.
Pale Horse (which inflicts every known status, such as poison and petrification)
Which wouldn't work because you have the barrier shielding Samus. And when did Seraphim Sephiroth been taken into account? I find it unfair that Samus' weakest version is used, but Sephiroth is in composite mode.
and I think when he said he won't get hit by Samus he referred to Sephiroth's speed, which in the video in the opening post is remarkable (referring to when Sephiroth charged Genesis after launching him in the air)
Samus isn't exactly slow.
and in Crisis Core he moves fast enough in the game that it looks like he's teleporting. Also, if Sephiroth's slices would not cut through Samus's armor, they'll at least break through her visor and damage her vision.
I haven't played CC, so i don't know what you're referring to.
But her visor is protected by her barrier. Why do you think lava doesn't burn through her visor?
