Sephiroth vs Samus Aran

Ah, another day, another wank. How have all the Sephirothites been?

Let's start today's praise and worship service for our great god Sephiroth by bowing our heads and sending our utmost praise to him that is the one above all.

*Hummm*

Amen.

Now, what is this I missed? Bugs posing a threat to Samus? Yes, and as I've stated, Cloud and co. can also be threatened by level 1 monsters way back on disc 1.

Why does it matter that I speak of Cloud? Because this same Cloud that is still harmed and threatened by level 1 creatures, harm and threaten Sephiroth all the time.

I can play this game too.

Praytell, who am I quoting out of context?

That would be me you're quoting out of context. I used cement as a segue to Sephiroth's abilities to slice through hard sunstances, not once did I say cement, you can see in the quote I said he cuts through the hardest and strongest materials out there, I never said cement was the hardest substance out there, and I never said all he cut through as cement. Learn to read please.

Yeah yeah. What ever bullshit you come up with now passes as feats, eh?

Since when did canon sources become "bullshit I just came up with?"

Things as idiotic as this are kind of hard to beat. You can't beat this level stupidity.

I'm not the one who's demonstrated an inability to read, silly Keo. The fact remains its a valid argument, and you still can't counter it. And I believe I'll report this flaming.

As for the next part of your post, see where I explained to you that no one ever said concrete was the hardest, you simply don't know how to read so you thought I said that when in fact I never did.

And people survived heat that burns a Space Pirate? Last I recall this was a topic about two fictional characters...

Space Pirates are made of flesh, same as you and me. I've seen people who have survived much of them being melted and burned, it is possible to survive burns. Silly Keo.

Yeah, sure. In your fanboy world.

.... I'm so going to have fun with this elsewghere

In my fanboy world? You really don't know anything about Sephiroth. Everything I said in that post was from FF VII, AC or straight from the mouth's of Sephiroth's creators. Reality is not my fanboy world dear, the sooner you realize that, the better.

Once again on the cement thing, learn to read, no one said what you think I did.

Umm.. virtual simulations aren't real. Period.

The people USING the simulation are. So you're "unless.." kinda bombed there.

The fact remains that the simulator behaves exactly as the real world would. If you couldn't do it in reality the simulator wouldn't show it silly.

And Samus' armor alone is one of the strongest alloy in the galaxy.

Galaxy's finest tech > Planet's finest tech

And Sephiroth > any tech period. A divine being is above what mortals can make silly.

So that's why Sephiroth didn't psychically remove Cloud's sword from his hands...

And if you knew Samus, you'd know that outside sources cannot shut off her any part of her suit.

Great work there genius.

Cloud didn't get his sword removed from his hands because Sephiroth was toying with him that entire fight. Sephiroth wanted to taunt Cloud and make him suffer, no kill him right away. If you knew a little about FF VII you'd know that.

And if you had some common sense you'd realize that telekinesis doesn't have to work from the outside, he could stop it from within.

Appeal to popularity isn't my style. If you have to use a fallacy, you're pretty much admitting you have not a single clue what you're doing here.

Silly keo, when bob thinks everyone else has a problem, its bob who has something wrong with him. I don't have to use a fallacy, see above where I've crushed any argument you had. I only used this point because you seem immune to logic and reason, you're blinded by fanboyism.

They do have debate forums for children. Go join one.

Why would I join one? I believe your child like reasoning skills and debate style would be more suited to one than my logical approach to situations. Silly Keo, you really need to learn that when you're wrong you're wrong.

Now, what is this I missed? Bugs posing a threat to Samus? Yes, and as I've stated, Cloud and co. can also be threatened by level 1 monsters way back on disc 1.

Why does it matter that I speak of Cloud? Because this same Cloud that is still harmed and threatened by level 1 creatures, harm and threaten Sephiroth all the time.

I can play this game too.

Cloud and Co aren't Sephiroth silly. If we're going to use gameplay them I'm going to have to point out that in his weakest form, some of the strongest monsters in the game do no damage at all to Sephiroth, so there's more proof of Sephiroth being far beyond Samus' level.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Cloud and Co aren't Sephiroth silly. If we're going to use gameplay them I'm going to have to point out that in his weakest form, some of the strongest monsters in the game do no damage at all to Sephiroth, so there's more proof of Sephiroth being far beyond Samus' level.

You mean the same Sephiroth that was overpowered by a lv.1 Cloud Strife and thrown into the reactor?

You mean the same Sephiroth that was overpowered by a lv.1 Cloud Strife and thrown into the reactor?

For starters levels are nothing more than gameplay, they don't exist story wise. And Sephiroth was mortally wounded when Cloud did that, he was limping around, many of his organs were chopped up, his spine was severed. Anyone other than Sephiroth would be dead there, its no surprise he got tossed.

Now back on subject, I am speaking of the fact that while useless little grunt enemies can kill Samus, at Nibelheim even strong dragons do a grand total of 0 damage to Sephiroth, he is invincible to all random battle creatures.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
For starters levels are nothing more than gameplay, they don't exist story wise. And Sephiroth was mortally wounded when Cloud did that, he was limping around, many of his organs were chopped up, his spine was severed. Anyone other than Sephiroth would be dead there, its no surprise he got tossed.

Don't give me that for Cloud was also wounded when Sephiroth stabbed him through the gut and yet he still threw Sephiroth around like a rag doll.

And ain't it funny that you considered levels gameplay and yet the fact that numbers appear whenever someone does an attack isn't gameplay.

Don't give me that for Cloud was also wounded when Sephiroth stabbed him through the gut and yet he still threw Sephiroth around like a rag doll.

Cloud's wound was nothing compared to Sephiroth's. His wound missed quite a bit of important organs and didn't hurt his spinal column. Cloud's wound was less than a bullet going through him, Sephiroth's is instant death for anyone who isn't Sephiroth. Its amazing all of Sephiroth's guts weren't spilling out, much less that he could still walk. And he didn't toss Seph around like a rag doll, he struggled and used everything in him to throw him over the side.

And ain't it funny that you considered levels gameplay and yet the fact that numbers appear whenever someone does an attack isn't gameplay.

I know the damage numbers are gameplay silly, but that is because we were discussing gameplay Samus compared to gameplay Sephiroth, and how while grunts hurt Samus nothing hurts Seph. Cloud tossing Sephiroth happened all outside of gameplay, and Sephiroth should have been dead anyways, so it has no place in what I 'm talking about.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Cloud's wound was nothing compared to Sephiroth's.

Show me proof on this.

Show me proof on this.

You need proof besides the fact that his wound was 1/16 the size and was in an area not as harmful to be impaled...?

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
You need proof besides the fact that his wound was 1/16 the size and was in an area not as harmful to be impaled...?

Again; proof because Sephiroth sword killed Aerith with no trouble.

Aerith was much weaker than Cloud, thats common knowledge. Also, She was hit with much more force from the blade, Jenova jumped from a great height to impact her, Sephiroth just kinda poked through Cloud. That isn't much of a point.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Aerith was much weaker than Cloud. That isn't much of a point.

16 year old Cloud wasn't that strong; and yet he survived and overpowered Sephiroth!

6 year old Cloud wasn't that strong; and yet he survived and overpowered Sephiroth!

I see we don't know much about Cloud. Even before Hojo's treatment's Cloud has an inner power that is a force to behold. In Before Crisis, at age 14 or 15, he goes into a rage, picks up a big sword, and completely wipes out a bunch of elite AVALANCHE troops. 16 year old Cloud is far stronger than Aerith could ever hope to be.

And the fact remains that he overpowered somebody who should have been dead. A little girl could fight Bruce Lee if Bruce had most of huis organs damaged and his spine severed beforehand.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
And the fact remains that he overpowered somebody who should have been dead. A little girl could fight Bruce Lee if Bruce had most of huis organs damaged and his spine severed beforehand.

And Cloud should have been dead; but wait he still overpowered Sephiroth! You fail!

No, Cloud shouldn't have been dead, that wound wasn't much to him. That wound didn't harm very much, and Cloud demonstrated it wasn't mortal. He was stabbed in a different area with less force than Aerith was hit with, there is no comparison between the two.

He was doing way better than limping, most organs damaged, no spinal cord Sephiroth, who had a wound that would instantly kill a normal person. I'm afraid its you who fails dear. You minght want to learn about FF VII a bit more before debating someone who knows the series.🙄

Guys, quit the bickering and hostility.

I changed your quote a little fascist.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
You minght want to learn about FF VII a bit more before debating with people who knows the series.

Originally posted by Lana
Guys, quit the bickering and hostility.

Both of these quotes have to be said to Keollyn.

Guys, quit the bickering and hostility.

Bickering is the only thing we can do. Fact tells us Sephiroth is so far beyond Samus its not even funny, and some people, namely Keo, keep pulling things out of their ass to try to justify a ridiculous and nonsensical position. This means the thread is reduced to bickering between those who are right and someone who won't accept being wrong.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
No, Cloud shouldn't have been dead, that wound wasn't much to him. That wound didn't harm very much, and Cloud demonstrated it wasn't mortal. He was stabbed in a different area with less force than Aerith was hit with, there is no comparison between the two.

He was doing way better than limping, most organs damaged, no spinal cord Sephiroth, who had a wound that would instantly kill a normal person. I'm afraid its you who fails dear. You minght want to learn about FF VII a bit more before debating someone who knows the series.🙄

Really? Cloud was stabbed in the chest; Aerith was stabbed in the gut:

YouTube video

Next time check your facts.

Wow, such bullshit. Cloud can't take Samus' strongest attacks like nothing, he gets cut by swords for Christ's sake! Also, Seph gettin hurt by nuthin in FFVII is gameplay. Sephiroth is not a divine being. And also, being a "god"(which he isn't) isn't a reason to say he beats Samus, how do you explain the numerous god killers in fiction?