I'll answer some parts. 🙂
Originally posted by Sirius77Doesn't matter.
And you think that hype couldn't do the same with his flash vision or fists?
You asked for when BB has done more damage than 20 nukes. I gave you it.
Originally posted by Sirius77
And hype affected the entire world by flying into it.
Also, if Hyperion misses that attack against Black Bolt (which has a good chance to miss) then it doesn't matter.
BB's attack however, has a high chance to connect with Hype, and all it takes is him opening his mouth, and speaking.
Originally posted by Sirius77
If it was more powerful than 20 nukes, then where was the destruction?And Captain marvel was fighting superman before he got clocked by bats. Does that mean that he wasn't being a "jobber"?
That's like saying that SMP ripping through Superman's shoulder was a weak attack because it was so small.
Problem here:
Gladiator is fueled on confidence. His confidence was enough to fight with Quaser in that comic. Sometimes it's so low, he gets knocked out by Sue Richards.
CM is not however.
Originally posted by Sirius77Alternate reality. Gamma Bomb. 🙂
Which is speculation, because I saw Maestro get disentigrated by a nuclear explosion.
Originally posted by Sirius77Something that only took the power directed at it, and then returned it at the destined target?
He had tech.
Originally posted by Sirius77When Surfer could barely stand at the first part of the story (he does have to wait a while and heal, if he gets worn out).
So has lightning.
Originally posted by Sirius77Except, this was out of raw power. Nothing was said of his control over electrons.
Well he does control electrons... quantum mechanics anyone?
Originally posted by Sirius77Are you talking about WWH?
Also, never mind the fact that he's an intellegent warlike tactician that is permanently pissed with years of combat training. He's many multiples stronger and more durable than Black Bolt. It's not pis.
The only way it's possible, is if BB only used the whisper at the start.
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So, you keep wanting to nag on durability?
BB has:
Taken shots from pissed Hulk to not much effect.
Taken shots from Glads (after getting put through torture basically).
Took shots from Thor to really no effect.
Took a shot or two from Watcher-Doom to really no effect.
Got put in a field where his own power was turned against him, and still wasn't out.
Off the top of my head.
Originally posted by Bransolute
I'll answer some parts. 🙂Doesn't matter.
You asked for when BB has done more damage than 20 nukes. I gave you it.
With his full speed, and his most powerful attack. 🙄
Also, if Hyperion misses that attack against Black Bolt (which has a good chance to miss) then it doesn't matter.
BB's attack however, has a high chance to connect with Hype, and all it takes is him opening his mouth, and speaking.The destruction was knocking Glads out.
That's like saying that SMP ripping through Superman's shoulder was a weak attack because it was so small.
Problem here:
Gladiator is fueled on confidence. His confidence was enough to fight with Quaser in that comic. Sometimes it's so low, he gets knocked out by Sue Richards.CM is not however.
Alternate reality. Gamma Bomb. 🙂
Something that only took the power directed at it, and then returned it at the destined target?
When Surfer could barely stand at the first part of the story (he does have to wait a while and heal, if he gets worn out).
Except, this was out of raw power. Nothing was said of his control over electrons.
Are you talking about WWH?
Because that is complete pis.The only way it's possible, is if BB only used the whisper at the start.
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So, you keep wanting to nag on durability?
BB has:
Taken shots from pissed Hulk to not much effect.
Taken shots from Glads (after getting put through torture basically).
Took shots from Thor to really no effect.
Took a shot or two from Watcher-Doom to really no effect.
Got put in a field where his own power was turned against him, and still wasn't out.Off the top of my head.
Case and point, you have only named characters that should pwn Black Bolt. Not actual destructive forces such as a nuclear weapon or 20....
Also, give me a few more examples of people that Black Bolt has "stalemated" and I'll match it with a list of people that batman has also. Like batman, Black Bolt has no physical durability or strength feats to back up your claims other than the fact that a bunch of top-tiers jobbed to him. So, I'm done here.
Originally posted by Sirius77
Case and point, you have only named characters that should pwn Black Bolt. Not actual destructive forces such as a nuclear weapon or 20....Also, give me a few more examples of people that Black Bolt has "stalemated" and I'll match it with a list of people that batman has also. Like batman, Black Bolt has no physical durability or strength feats to back up your claims other than the fact that a bunch of top-tiers jobbed to him. So, I'm done here.
Originally posted by Bransolute
On another note. This conversation has become extremely pointless.
All you've done is bring up 20 NUEKSQ!!!, and attempted to downplay BB the entire time.
You've brought up nothing really to even support Hype could punch through a Styrofoam wall. You've brought up nothing except say everyone has jobbed to BB.
Case and point. 🙂
Originally posted by Sirius77Maybe not.
Nukes aren't people that destroy planetiods with punches and fish word sized serpents from space...
But a nuke has taken out Thor before. And a planet has taken blasts by Galactus.
They were obviously jobbing, and it's obvious to anyone.
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On a serious note, I find it funny how your logic is applicable to other people brought up, like Mangog for example.
Mangog hasn't 1/2 of impressive feats Thor does, however, you brought him up, to show that BB isn't on Thor's level. 🙂 But following your logic, Mangog is next to nothing to Thor, and we can write it off as Thor jobbing.
Plus, also using your logic, Tyrant isn't in Gladiator's level of power. Tyrant doesn't destroy planets, and like Thor, Tyrant doesn't lift world serpents. Gladiator would rape him in a fight... right?
However, if common sense indicated anything, it's obvious that you don't need these type of feats to indicate you're at a level of power.
If you fight and beat Herald levelers on the average, then you're above Herald level.
If you fight, and beat top tiers, or do good against them on the average, then you're about top tier.
If you're wildly inconsistent, but you're feats average out at about street level, however, you have feats where you're taking down gods that contradict a lot of other showings, then you're about street level, or slightly above.
OK, now I'm really done here. At least for the debate going on right now. 🙂
Originally posted by Bransolute
Maybe not.But a nuke has taken out Thor before. And a planet has taken blasts by Galactus.
They were obviously jobbing, and it's obvious to anyone.
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On a serious note, I find it funny how your logic is applicable to other people brought up, like Mangog for example.
Mangog hasn't 1/2 of impressive feats Thor does, however, you brought him up, to show that BB isn't on Thor's level. 🙂 But following your logic, Mangog is next to nothing to Thor, and we can write it off as Thor jobbing.Plus, also using your logic, Tyrant isn't in Gladiator's level of power. Tyrant doesn't destroy planets, and like Thor, Tyrant doesn't lift world serpents. Gladiator would rape him in a fight... right?
However, if common sense indicated anything, it's obvious that you don't need these type of feats to indicate you're at a level of power.
If you fight and beat Herald levelers on the average, then you're above Herald level.
If you fight, and beat top tiers, or do good against them on the average, then you're about top tier.
I really don't feel like responding to this, but Tyrant and Mangog have feats other than just facing top-tiers. Either way, I'm completely fed up with this debate, and quite frankly, I see it as pointless. So, have a great day 🙂