CC Zack Fair versus AC Tifa Lockhart

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CC Zack Fair versus AC Tifa Lockhart

2nd class Soldier Zack Fair somehow ends up in a fist-fight with Advent Children Tifa.

Location : Interior of 7th Heaven Bar

No Materia, Crisis Core Zack , Advent Children Tifa

Who wins ?

No weapons? I guess Tifa with her Limit Breaks.

I dunno.

Ok...Tifa is obviously the more experienced hand to hand combatant...but Zack is kind of tough...and fast as hell.

IMO he should be able to beat her, but since I have no actual proof I'll just go with Tifa.

Edit : Well come to think of it Zack single handedly obliterated dozens of Shinra guards while dodging bullets in Last Order.

I dunno anymore.

Meh...I'll say Tifa to avoid the backlash.

That's a toughie. Tifa is quite skilled with martial arts, but Zack is faster and stronger. Its a toss up, but I say Zack takes it.

That's hard.

Hmmmm.....

Tifa. Just because she have more experience in hth combat.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
[b]Edit : Well come to think of it Zack single handedly obliterated dozens of Shinra guards while dodging bullets in Last Order. [/B]

Yeah but Last Order is going to end up being noncanon since Crisis Core is coming out.

Last Order is still very much canon. Only parts retconned in CC are changed, but what wasn't changed is still canon. Last Order is even in the compilation Ultimania.

So Sephiroth DID jump into the reactor ?

Not quite, like I said if CC changed it outright then its changed, but that doesn't negate the rest of LO. Its like this, the compilation has changed many parts of FF VII, especially flashbacks, but that only means those parts were changed, it doesn't mean all of FF VII is non canon.

About Sephiroth's fall. Usually the most recent version of events is canon, however CC only changed it because a few game testers who never saw LO got confused, and in BC, LO, and the reunion files it says he jumps, and Nomura even came out and said it was different in FF VII because Cloud remembered it slightly off. So theres a bit of a conflict here. In the compilation Ultimania it just says some things say he jumped, and other things say he was tossed, so SE is trying to leave it ambiguous and let the player decide which happened.

Zack, wtf.

Zack, wtf.

Keep in mind this is rookie 2nd class Zack vs Tifa at her best in AC. If it were 1st class Zack after Nibelheim then it woud be a no brainer.

Have we seen what Zack could do then?

Not a whole lot, we only see him like that at the beginning of CC. He is still very good, but not nearly as good as he is in LO and the end of CC. For examle, he stumble a bit while trying to run on top of a train, and just isn't as experienced. Also, this fight is pure hand to hand, otherwise I'd say even rookie Zack would smoke Tifa.

Cloud tossing Sephiroth into the reactor was one of the best scenes in the original FF7 and made that whole half-hour's worth of text and Cloud's stupid memory worth it.

Cloud "remembering things wrong" basically makes that whole scene pointless. It's goddam ABOUT HIM REMEMBERING THINGS RIGHT so we know what happened.

Way to stay on topic. 😕

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Keep in mind this is rookie 2nd class Zack vs Tifa at her best in AC. If it were 1st class Zack after Nibelheim then it woud be a no brainer.

Actually Zack was already in 1st Class level, in the begin of CC. This is why Angeal said he would promote him, after the first mission of the game. Zack was officially a 2nd class, but in truth, he was already a 1st.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Not quite, like I said if CC changed it outright then its changed, but that doesn't negate the rest of LO. Its like this, the compilation has changed many parts of FF VII, especially flashbacks, but that only means those parts were changed, it doesn't mean all of FF VII is non canon.

About Sephiroth's fall. Usually the most recent version of events is canon, however CC only changed it because a few game testers who never saw LO got confused, and in BC, LO, and the reunion files it says he jumps, and Nomura even came out and said it was different in FF VII because Cloud remembered it slightly off. So theres a bit of a conflict here. In the compilation Ultimania it just says some things say he jumped, and other things say he was tossed, so SE is trying to leave it ambiguous and let the player decide which happened.

IMO it makes more sense to have Cloud toss Sephiroth down the mako reactor.

Actually Zack was already in 1st Class level, in the begin of CC. This is why Angeal said he would promote him, after the first mission of the game. Zack was officially a 2nd class, but in truth, he was already a 1st.

Perhaps on the level of some lesser first classes, but he is nowhere even near the power he has in LO and the later parts of CC.

Still don't see how Tifa can win this. Just by watching the CC intro I simply acknowledge the fact that Tifa would get WTFpwned.

Cuz she, you know, can hit harder H2H, is faster at striking H2H, and has 10 times as much experience H2H?