Originally posted by Dan666
Are you some kind of Retard! A gun kills Dante, pal he's been impaled various times and shot at, if MC went through half the stuff Dante goes through he'd be dead! 😠
No, but with your arguments it seems you are certainly a disadvantaged person in a test of logic. Your going on about Dante being impaled for a few moments (which knocked him out of action almost every time) and trying to compare it to his whole body being peppered and spread with high powered fire. hell if chief weakens Dante enough to slow him down after all the wounds he has peppered him with he could prob pull out a plasma weapon and disintegrate Dante entirely....
Originally posted by fortinbross
Surviving a bullet to the head isn't a feat? ha.
Not in comparison to a high powered rifle from the future spraying continous rounds into your head and body yeh......Ladies little pistol is nothing....
What are you talking about half a clip? you better not be using gameplay again and if you are, in gameplay chief is fighting advanced aliens, some wearing armour and shielding possibly on par with his own, if not greater. Dante was tossed to the floor and incapacitated a long time by Alastor, Vergil impaled him and Dante looked near to death, another stab and he would have been gone. Even Nero in DMC 4 impaled Dante to a wall lol....
The drawback ofc to all these is that his opponent/attacker did not continue the attack, if MC sprayed a pair of assault rifles into Dantes body who fals to the ground from all the wounds that have gone through him, MC wouldnt walk away or begin a little speech for the sake of story, he would finish the job.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtno dante has the speed and the accuracy to shoot bullets from mid air, i dont think that a gun battle would do anything to him, and even if he were to be hit by anything taht is not high demonic power it would register as a nerf gun
MC just sprays devil boy with high tech rounds from a pair of rifles and Dante goes down.....
Originally posted by Burning thoughtthose were all powerful demons and thats the only reason it effected him that way, even when nero impales him he was going really easy on him and he quickly recovered from that attack.
Dante was tossed to the floor and incapacitated a long time by Alastor, Vergil impaled him and Dante looked near to death, another stab and he would have been gone. Even Nero in DMC 4 impaled Dante to a wall lol....
the start of dmc1 he gets stabbed through the chest by a sword, he was completely unfased. start of no 3 he was attacked and impaled by 3+ scythes through his chest and arms, (these being demons who attacked him) he then walks to a juck box with the blades still in his body and starts some music for the fight. im sorry there is no way mc could survive that kind of crap
If we are not using gameplay to form our basis here then i'm sure that Dante would have the ability to stay within all of his styles permanently. With Quicksilver active MC isn't going to hit anything unless Dante wants him to. He would try, he would fire all of those precise shots and hit nothing but air. With MC's offense taken out Dante would have all the time in the world to get his pandora ready in whatever form he wanted. With its devestation attack(the rockets) MC would be toast, or maybe instead he would use Artemis. Or he could just hop into chiefs face and put a few charged rounds into him. Then again he could go DT and have quicksilver active and just pump massively charged demonic rounds into MC. Or while in DT Dante could just walk up to MC, disarm him, and use MC's own gun to kill him. He wouldn't even need to touch him thus preserving the "only guns" stipulation. Come to think of it he wouldn't even need to have DT active to disarm chief.
Also I think Vergil is the only real case of Dante being incapacitated, and that was by his equal. With everyone else i'm pretty sure that he was just messing with them. It's just part of his fighting style. Not that that would do MC any good cause he is never going to touch him.
Originally posted by DarkestSonata
If we are not using gameplay to form our basis here then i'm sure that Dante would have the ability to stay within all of his styles permanently. With Quicksilver active MC isn't going to hit anything unless Dante wants him to. He would try, he would fire all of those precise shots and hit nothing but air. With MC's offense taken out Dante would have all the time in the world to get his pandora ready in whatever form he wanted. With its devestation attack(the rockets) MC would be toast, or maybe instead he would use Artemis. Or he could just hop into chiefs face and put a few charged rounds into him. Then again he could go DT and have quicksilver active and just pump massively charged demonic rounds into MC. Or while in DT Dante could just walk up to MC, disarm him, and use MC's own gun to kill him. He wouldn't even need to touch him thus preserving the "only guns" stipulation. Come to think of it he wouldn't even need to have DT active to disarm chief.Also I think Vergil is the only real case of Dante being incapacitated, and that was by his equal. With everyone else i'm pretty sure that he was just messing with them. It's just part of his fighting style. Not that that would do MC any good cause he is never going to touch him.
Dante has shown within canon to have limited energy, the orb of souls for example gave him enough power to go infnite DT. Obviously ifh e already had infinte devil energy the orb would have done nothing. Furthermore Dante spends too much time as a normal man in form, if he could stay in DT he would have done throughout his games. Quicksivler has a short duration. Dante is not that fast, he has never as I said dodged a pair of rapid fire tech machineguns by a computer assisted master soldier....if Dante goes into devastaor with Pandora box (Is that the pod with missles all over it?) then he is not going to be able to escape machie gun fire, he will be ripped apart by MC before he can even fire his missles.
Disarming chief may be the only way Dante has a chance, but that means using his hands, not a gun which would sort of ruin the stripulation...
Originally posted by menokokoro
those were all powerful demons and thats the only reason it effected him that way, even when nero impales him he was going really easy on him and he quickly recovered from that attack.the start of dmc1 he gets stabbed through the chest by a sword, he was completely unfased. start of no 3 he was attacked and impaled by 3+ scythes through his chest and arms, (these being demons who attacked him) he then walks to a juck box with the blades still in his body and starts some music for the fight. im sorry there is no way mc could survive that kind of crap
Totally irrelvent whether or not they were demons tbh, thats just a type of entity, it does not give him any advantage in combat against MC. Either way he was still pierced/impaled by said weapons.
I cant remember this, can you show me? if your talking about Alastor he was hardly "unfased" and those little scythes would not pierce Spartan armour....they have no feats anyway, it simply shows that Dantes body can be easily pierced, theres nothing stopping MC's weapons from conitnuning to blow away Dantes body.
Originally posted by menokokoro
no dante has the speed and the accuracy to shoot bullets from mid air, i dont think that a gun battle would do anything to him, and even if he were to be hit by anything taht is not high demonic power it would register as a nerf gun
This does not help him, MC does not have to be in the air to fire his guns and Dante can only dodge and escape from so much gun fire, hes never had a pair of machine guns fired at him by a super soldier with computer aid afaik 😉 . Theres no evidence to back up that claim.....Dante has not been hit by many bullets before, certainly not those of MC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ckzmUwN43o
start watching at 3:40
Originally posted by Burning thoughtok watch the first fight scene in the video i linked, they are swinging their swords vast enough that none of the water is hitting the ground
Dante is not that fast
Originally posted by Burning thoughtyou misunderstand what i mean, i mean that the reason that he was hurting from those blows was because they were "powerful" demons.
Totally irrelvent whether or not they were demons tbh, thats just a type of entity, it does not give him any advantage in combat against MC. Either way he was still pierced/impaled by said weapons.
Originally posted by Burning thought
and those little scythes would not pierce Spartan armour....they have no feats anyway, it simply shows that Dantes body can be easily pierced, theres nothing stopping MC's weapons from conitnuning to blow away Dantes body.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtnot what i meant....again, i meant he shot bullets that were in mid air, that were shot at him, with his bullets, and being a super soldier means nothing in a gun fight against dante, there is no one i can think of besides maybe vash the stampede that is a better shot
This does not help him, MC does not have to be in the air to fire his guns and Dante can only dodge and escape from so much gun fire, hes never had a pair of machine guns fired at him by a super soldier with computer aid afaik 😉 . Theres no evidence to back up that claim.....Dante has not been hit by many bullets before, certainly not those of MC.
Originally posted by menokokoro
ok watch the first fight scene in the video i linked, they are swinging their swords vast enough that none of the water is hitting the groundyou misunderstand what i mean, i mean that the reason that he was hurting from those blows was because they were "powerful" demons.
no what it shows is that he can handle being pierced through the chest and have it not be a fatal wound, unless there is some sort of energy in it (like something from a powerful demon) it would be nothing to him
not what i meant....again, i meant he shot bullets that were in mid air, that were shot at him, with his bullets, and being a super soldier means nothing in a gun fight against dante, there is no one i can think of besides maybe vash the stampede that is a better shot
Couldn't have siad it better myself.
Originally posted by menokokoro
ok watch the first fight scene in the video i linked, they are swinging their swords vast enough that none of the water is hitting the groundyou misunderstand what i mean, i mean that the reason that he was hurting from those blows was because they were "powerful" demons.
no what it shows is that he can handle being pierced through the chest and have it not be a fatal wound, unless there is some sort of energy in it (like something from a powerful demon) it would be nothing to him
not what i meant....again, i meant he shot bullets that were in mid air, that were shot at him, with his bullets, and being a super soldier means nothing in a gun fight against dante, there is no one i can think of besides maybe vash the stampede that is a better shot
I fail to see how that will help him against a pair of machine guns?
And you misunderstand, there is no reason to suggest this is the case, what is the case is that they are strong enough to harm him. This is not a durability feat, although getting afterwards is. Problem is, MC will not stop after he has downed Dante.
It shows he can handle being pierced in the chest, that is it......and for your second part of your post. There is nothing to suggest only powerful demons could do this to him, only that they are more than enough to do it to him.
he has shot bullets from what, an Uzi or a hand gun wasnt it? not a pair of assault rifles. It means a lot, he has the training and skill to use his weapons well and he is a veteran of many battles and he has a computer to call tactics for him if he needed it to outsmart Dante, e.g. fire a shot in the line of where Dante is going to next attempt a dodge from his last shots.
Put it this way... MC has no supernatural means whatsoever helping him on this fight whereas Dante does. And before you can say "That doesn't matter MC has *some other means of winning*" Supernatural does actually play a big part, Not even considering if Dante went DT, Then MC wouldn't be able to touch him at all. Thats how he can go up against machine guns.
Can you actually show me where MC can dodge bullets? Maybe then i will have a better opinion on this fight.
Um I know I'm going for Dante here but MC has dodged bullets before, sorry. Buuut, Dante can fire those pistols a helluva lot faster than a machine gun, also Dante wasn't even phased by what I like to call 'wimpy reapers' in DMC3 at the start, and those things, no matter how weak, are obviously stronger than a normal human.
Originally posted by Dan666
Um I know I'm going for Dante here but MC has dodged bullets before, sorry. Buuut, Dante can fire those pistols a helluva lot faster than a machine gun, also Dante wasn't even phased by what I like to call 'wimpy reapers' in DMC3 at the start, and those things, no matter how weak, are obviously stronger than a normal human.
lol wut? when has Dante fired his pistols quicker than a machine gun....
They are wimpy but they dont have the advantages MC does, you keep mentioning "humans" and "normal humans" but Chief barely comes under this category when he is in full armour, weapon assisted computer and all the rest. He may as well be a Demon as far as Dante is concerned and if we had these two in their own character style then Dante would probably come out with some slick line such as "I didnt know they made Tin cans in hell" or something like that.
Originally posted by fortinbross
Put it this way... MC has no supernatural means whatsoever helping him on this fight whereas Dante does. And before you can say "That doesn't matter MC has *some other means of winning*" Supernatural does actually play a big part, Not even considering if Dante went DT, Then MC wouldn't be able to touch him at all. Thats how he can go up against machine guns.
Can you actually show me where MC can dodge bullets? Maybe then i will have a better opinion on this fight.
No it does not matter, your using titles and words to try and big up Dante when half of his supernatural powers can be matched or defeated by MC technology. Dante has never faced high tech machine guns from a being such as MC and devil trigger is nigh featless so I dont know why you even bring it up, all we know is it improves drastically on Dantes powers but not gaugable.
No, i think its in a book that I think it was Spadeking has read. And MC does not need to dodge bullets, in the same book I belive he just takes them on his suit, and based on the falling from atmopshere feat, Dantes small arms have zero change of harming the suit, even his heavy weapons are doubtful before MC shreds Dante.
Personally, Dante has weapons from DMC2 that match the dual SMGs that the Cheif would be using, and that is the twin MP5s.
This, coupled with Dante's accuracy and enhanced perceptions should at the very least match MC, if not surpas it easily enough.
When this is coupled with stuff like Quicksilver, even for a limited time, Dante purees MC, no matter how tough the armour, everything has a weardown limit.
True but then again chief still has the armour that tips the scales and he also has cortana, despite Dantes speed a computer that can aim up a shot or calculate a tactical movement that would draw Dante into a spread of fire or perhaps catch him mid dodge makes it difficult for Dante to continue to evade.