Dante vs Master Chief

Damn, what about the light, loldon't walk into the light. Hehehehe.

Not sure, what light? the laser beam thing?

BT what about the 7 forms Dan6 meant to say. The ones shown.

No when Dante opens the box, there's some light or something, I think it kills or damages all enemies in the light.

Originally posted by BloodRain
BT what about the 7 forms Dan6 meant to say. The ones shown.

Well lets see, theres that huge pod that fires a lot of missles, fairly useless, theres the laser, once again I dont think its that accurate and its obvious when fireing it, chief could prob roll aside from the barrel before it fires or such. Cant remember the others....

edit: Theres a chian gun, may come in handy if he gets it out, the others such as Boomerangs and bowguns and such seem like a step back from his normal handguns.

Opening the box seems a bit of a chore, while Dantes opening it and selecting a weapon, then waiting for it to appear MC could have blown him away, he would be better to stay with his rocket launchers and such.

good point... Chaingun, his armor would go down iventually.
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Preferred if you said that to Dan666 but oh well.
Takes at most a second for them to appear, not like he'd be standing still for them to change in a serious 1 on 1 match.

@Dan666 Omen is the released powers of pure disaster that badly damages anyone around it. If MC is anywhere near it....

Omen kills MC right?

Very likely. If he's anywhere near it then I don't see much he can do.
...Im sure someone will try though.

Does that mean Dante won?

As off now Dante won in this scenario. That is until the next person says how they think MC will win, its the magic of debates.

Just to strengthen this Dante wall; Royal guard, Trickster and Quicksilver. Dont even need to explain it.

Heh my fav is trickster.

Quicksivler slows time making trickster imo obselete although I agree trickster was prob the most useful in the game, Quicksilver drained your DT. Although in this matchup I wonder if Quicksilver is allowed considering he said only guns? does that exclude special powers?

Theres still little Dante can do to damage MC, if we assume a few things he may be able to do some damage with rocket weapons, the laser, the minigun IF he can get them fast enough. The Pandoras box is hardly a quick weapon considering he has to open it and then wait for the weapon to appear, while MC is blasting at him. You assume too much if you think Dante can acrobat, bullet time and summersault his way around MC while opening the box, MC would quite quickly through his training and Cortanas strategies that a computer could come up with fire an accurate shot that would kill Dante long before then.

Holy crud I just thought of something that almost melted my brain.
If MC had Cortana and threatened to kill himself would that be a hostage situation o_o.

Originally posted by Burning thought
You assume too much if you think Dante can acrobat, bullet time and summersault his way around MC while opening the box

Not dodging around and changing the box. Meant that he wouldn't stand in one place while doing it.

does that exclude special powers? Hmm technically its not a type of weapon and is a skill... only kwon ji hae knows for sure.

I seriously doubt that Dante's powers aren't allowed. If Dante doesn't get to use his styles or DT (are personal traits) then MC shouldn't get his armor or shield.(also personal traits) if we really wanted to get to use the "only guns" argument then both people should be hampered equally.
IF MC didn't get to have his armor or shield and Dante didn't get to use his styles then we all know that Dante would win that fight hands down. If Dante is allowed to use his styles, or go DT, I still think Dante would win, though it would be a better fight.

@BT, the show I brought up in an earlier post was just to show that with a smaller impact zone(a bullet vs. a full body landing) the easier it is to pierce a substance. According to your supplier of facts it would take 30+ newtons to damage MC, causing his armor to freeze. And although we know that 30+ newtons was enough to freeze him, we can't assume that that is the minimum threshold for damage or freezing. That figure might just be an asinine amount of overkill on him.(It might only take 10 newtons or less) A bullet (charged or not) might be able to reproduce such force on a smaller area to cause damage.

Originally posted by DarkestSonata

@BT, the show I brought up in an earlier post was just to show that with a smaller impact zone(a bullet vs. a full body landing) the easier it is to pierce a substance. According to your supplier of facts it would take 30+ newtons to damage MC, causing his armor to freeze. And although we know that 30+ newtons was enough to freeze him, we can't assume that that is the minimum threshold for damage or freezing. That figure might just be an asinine amount of overkill on him.(It might only take 10 newtons or less) A bullet (charged or not) might be able to reproduce such force on a smaller area to cause damage.

I dont think its likely because A: Dantes guns are old and the devil power behind them is difficult to gauge.

B: high tech weapons can damage MC armour (I think) and according to spade, even bullets from his generation fail and bounce off.

c: that value was what was required to lock up his armour/knock out chief, it did not seem to actually damage the armour physically or break the shell.

Originally posted by DarkestSonata
I seriously doubt that Dante's powers aren't allowed. If Dante doesn't get to use his styles or DT (are personal traits) then MC shouldn't get his armor or shield.(also personal traits) if we really wanted to get to use the "only guns" argument then both people should be hampered equally.
IF MC didn't get to have his armor or shield and Dante didn't get to use his styles then we all know that Dante would win that fight hands down. If Dante is allowed to use his styles, or go DT, I still think Dante would win, though it would be a better fight.

@BT, the show I brought up in an earlier post was just to show that with a smaller impact zone(a bullet vs. a full body landing) the easier it is to pierce a substance. According to your supplier of facts it would take 30+ newtons to damage MC, causing his armor to freeze. And although we know that 30+ newtons was enough to freeze him, we can't assume that that is the minimum threshold for damage or freezing. That figure might just be an asinine amount of overkill on him.(It might only take 10 newtons or less) A bullet (charged or not) might be able to reproduce such force on a smaller area to cause damage.

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Some of MCs guns dont seem that futuristic to start with, and all of Dantes weapons are above 'normal' modern wepons.

above yes, but based on feats not by much. It seems his accuracy is what makes them half useful. his ebony/ivory still<<<<duel assault rifles spraying bullets at Dante while MC stands like an almost invulerable juggernought.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I have completed all DMC games, and no he does not run out of ammo in gameplay, but then again in canon hes never had his ammo limit tested. In gameplay he can also pull most weapons from nowhere despite obviously not being able to carry them all on his person. He also has limits in gameplay that he would not in reality such as only being able to use one style, in truth he would have them all.

Despair embodied is indeed featless, certainly in durability.

In DMC 1 Dante has the powers of Trish when he blasts the weak Mundus away, but ofc you would know that if you "even played a DMC game"

There's a cutscene where he's repeatedly shoots at Jester, but I'm too lazy to get the cutscene. Ammo has nonething to do with styles.

Again, she gave him HALF of his power, that has nonething to do with "him needing someone else." And yea, BloodRain explained it as well. Pay attention to the games, BT.