Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
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thats convincing enough 😐
I don't even remember anything from that game ermm
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
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thats convincing enough 😐
I don't even remember anything from that game ermm
Originally posted by Burning thought
my point remains, and no their prob not often fired on in the air by such weapons, unfortuatley in DMC they were and it did no damage.Name me some of the things they have survived, and when have these characters been hit by normal pistol shots? canonically Mundus has been destroyed by a a charged up pair of pistols while Dante was useing Trish power and
Show me armour piercing rounds being rocheted off walls. Control? who says hes the one controlling it, his bullets do it all the time, its likely they are not even natural bullets by any case. False, I dont have to find any rifle at all, this is "spiral" a fictional gun. The fact it resembles an anti material rifle is all well and good but its rounds that it fires cannot be proven can it?
evidence? prove they can hit with that force and youve finally got an argument.
So BT you get the pleasure of sitting on your *** while others are scrounging for answers. You tried making a point about all of Dante's weapons being fictional. Really? You are arguing for MC. Absolutely everything MC uses is fictional. While Dante himself is fictional, most of his guns (excluding Pandora, etc.) are based off of real guns. Therefore spiral is likely based off of the real thing. Plus, a full body drop that MC survived, though very impressive means nothing.The fact that the force you keep bringing up (30+newtons)is not the same as the amount of force it would take to pierce his armor. the bullets entire force, unlike the drops, will be centered at the impact zone, or the size of the bullet. real life instances include an episode of the Pumphrey brothers show, Human Wrecking Balls. One of them tried shoulder ramming his way through a 2-inch thick glass window. His full body impact failed. However, after ripping the bottom wheels off of a computer chair(underneath them is a metal rod) and holding said chair in front of him he was easily able to run through the window. Because of that, your "evidence" provider, is going to have to do a lot more math to figure out exactly how much force would then be needed to pierce MC's armor. Before you reply in a pissed off manner, find the episode where they rip apart the office, watch it, then get back to me. You also quoted your "evidence" provider saying that Dante's swords wouldn't even be able to pierce MC. That is ****ing retarded. since when has modern day estimates ever been able to take into account the strength of a demon. and it does matter. GIve a sword to a 15 year old geek and have them slash at you and they wouldn't be able to put much force behind it. GIve same sword to say Superman(not saying Dante is as physically strong as Superman, just proving my point) and he could use it to cut a tank in half, and thats after he had just gotten out of a kriptonite bath. Okay BT you wanted a better arguement, well you got it.
ok so here are the facts, dante has incredible durability, he has taken swords through his chest and if i remember right (i think i may be thinking of something else) even a bullet to the head, he has the reaction speed and accuracy to shoot bullets coming at him in mid air. is incredibly agile and fast, and can charge his shots to probably 50 cal power+, and he has infinite ammo.
now chief is also very durable, though does not last as long as dante's, he has a fast running speed, is relatively agile, all his weapons have to be reloaded (apart from the plasma weapons which are even more useless when they run out) the most powerful weapons are also slow, the sniper rifle is powerful and not exactly slow but again limited ammo and dante could counter it.
so what happens is dante out maneuvers chief, continues to volley him with a shower of bullets, chief tries to keep up and maybe gets a few lucky shots off, which would probably be deflected by dante. when dante finally gets board he just shoots him with a few highly charged shots and there you go easy win
OYG you guys are ****ing rtards, MC would die after 5 secs, and thats with Dante ****ing with him, Pandora's Box=666 forms, who the **** said it can't create Halo world weapons, and also, what happens when you open Pandora's Box? Light kills DEMONS! MC is not a demon no matter how many times the covenant grunts scream it.
Originally posted by DarkestSonata
So BT you get the pleasure of sitting on your *** while others are scrounging for answers. You tried making a point about all of Dante's weapons being fictional. Really? You are arguing for MC. Absolutely everything MC uses is fictional. While Dante himself is fictional, most of his guns (excluding Pandora, etc.) are based off of real guns. Therefore spiral is likely based off of the real thing. Plus, a full body drop that MC survived, though very impressive means nothing.The fact that the force you keep bringing up (30+newtons)is not the same as the amount of force it would take to pierce his armor. the bullets entire force, unlike the drops, will be centered at the impact zone, or the size of the bullet. real life instances include an episode of the Pumphrey brothers show, Human Wrecking Balls. One of them tried shoulder ramming his way through a 2-inch thick glass window. His full body impact failed. However, after ripping the bottom wheels off of a computer chair(underneath them is a metal rod) and holding said chair in front of him he was easily able to run through the window. Because of that, your "evidence" provider, is going to have to do a lot more math to figure out exactly how much force would then be needed to pierce MC's armor. Before you reply in a pissed off manner, find the episode where they rip apart the office, watch it, then get back to me. You also quoted your "evidence" provider saying that Dante's swords wouldn't even be able to pierce MC. That is ****ing retarded. since when has modern day estimates ever been able to take into account the strength of a demon. and it does matter. GIve a sword to a 15 year old geek and have them slash at you and they wouldn't be able to put much force behind it. GIve same sword to say Superman(not saying Dante is as physically strong as Superman, just proving my point) and he could use it to cut a tank in half, and thats after he had just gotten out of a kriptonite bath. Okay BT you wanted a better arguement, well you got it.
No my point was that Dantes weapons are fictional there for claiming his weapons look like a real weapon then trying to use the real weapons stats to estimate their abilities when the actual fictional guns Dante uses are unique as well as nigh featless (a few feats here and there, mor so for the pistols).
I cannot see how all this evidence from some TV show you have seen is relevent, MC bounces bullets (spadeking claims and its likely based on how much force his armour can take) AND has a shield, this is against future weapons, not Dantes old guns which based on feats (not many) do not match plasma or other heated weaponry which Dante would be fried by.
Dante does not get to use anything other than guns in this match...so what he can do with a sword or his fists is irrelevent. And dont get pissed off but ill give you credit for actually putting an argument down unlike a lot of users in this forum who would prefer to rant or not explain their opinions.
Originally posted by BloodRain
^ Agrees with ArtificialGloryYour joking, right? Normal guns over time can kill MC, Dante's guns > normal guns. Dante is not the one to run, nor can a single bullet (or any) kill/ badly harm him.
I take it your the Halo fanboy type that will post without reason to make him top-dog, not going to ask how a bullet could cause a seizure and rabies... please show proof.
When? his armour is strong enough to take atompsheric fall and others have claimed he has bounced bullets from his armour, your claiming too much from Dantes weapons which by actual feats are not really that impressive. And your also overhyping Dante, duel assault rifles would pepper him and knock him out, in the past Dante has been completly incapciated by having himself impaled on a sword, once by Nero, Vergil and I think alastor as well....sprays of bullets from high tech weapons would shred Dante, or a plasma rifle shot.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Well Dante has unlimited ammo, super-human trigger speed and capable of charging the bullets. (Like in DMC4 used to finish 2 bosses (not sure if that was charged but still shows some strength))
And i highly doubt MC will be able to dodge many, if any, of the shots. So it ultimately comes down to his armor and energy sheild (correct if wrong) Dante has been stabbed multiple times, most he just brushed off, and also 'got shot in the head' and still shook it off like it was nothing. The damage-sponge wont be beaten by normal guns.
Ends up with Dante dodging most of MC shots while wearing down his armor with his rounds :/
What do you mean wearing down his armour? you make it sound like MC armour has a health bar or some other gameplay mechanic, the chances are every time Dantes guns get close to taking down MC shield it will likely recharge if its actually harmed at all by Dantes ancient weapons in comparison to what Chiefs shields and armour are used to taking shots from.
Originally posted by Dan666
Are you guys ignoring me or somethin'?
You said something?
Originally posted by Burning thought
When? his armour is strong enough to take atompsheric fall and others have claimed he has bounced bullets from his armour, your claiming too much from Dantes weapons which by actual feats are not really that impressive. And your also overhyping Dante, duel assault rifles would pepper him and knock him out, in the past Dante has been completly incapciated by having himself impaled on a sword, once by Nero, Vergil and I think alastor as well....sprays of bullets from high tech weapons would shred Dante, or a plasma rifle shot.
What do you mean wearing down his armour? you make it sound like MC armour has a health bar or some other gameplay mechanic, the chances are every time Dantes guns get close to taking down MC shield it will likely recharge if its actually harmed at all by Dantes ancient weapons in comparison to what Chiefs shields and armour are used to taking shots from.
Atomspheric feat is also overrated, not like he crashed and stood right back up and walked away :/ And all those swords stunned him only because they were strong 'demonic' weapons. The shields weakness is plasma type shots, like what Artemis fires. Missiles would work, so would Pandora. Regardless Dante being a skilled bullet timer MC wont get hits in.
Speed + Timestop + Charged shots. Wearing down like taking a sledgehammer to a wall, may not get through on the first hit but each hit gets you closer.
"OYG you guys are ****ing rtards, MC would die after 5 secs, and thats with Dante ****ing with him, Pandora's Box=666 forms, who the **** said it can't create Halo world weapons, and also, what happens when you open Pandora's Box? Light kills DEMONS! MC is not a demon no matter how many times the covenant grunts scream it."
Is what I said.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Atomspheric feat is also overrated, not like he crashed and stood right back up and walked away :/ And all those swords stunned him only because they were strong 'demonic' weapons. The shields weakness is plasma type shots, like what Artemis fires. Missiles would work, so would Pandora. Regardless Dante being a skilled bullet timer MC wont get hits in.
Speed + Timestop + Charged shots. Wearing down like taking a sledgehammer to a wall, may not get through on the first hit but each hit gets you closer.
its not being overrated, Dante cannot hit MS with the force of atmospheric re-entry which is why he cannot knock MC out like that did, one fact thats important about the feat is that MC armour is not damaged hardly, its not cracked or broken at all.....
Thats an assumption, sure they were strong demonic wepaons but they have few feats by themselves, it took dante to use them as slashing weapons and all theyve done is impaled him, no magic or else has been shown.
Bullet timing is only so good, Chief is an excellent shot, arguably far better than Danta what with Chiefs actualy training and experiance in constant long range combat (most of Dantes foes use melee e.g. demons) and combined with Cortana, I think after a few minutes of Dante picking away at Chiefs shields and armour she could line up a tactic that would kill dante in a hail of high tech ammunition, plasma or else.
Only gets you closer if you can chip the armour, Dante cannot as he cannot exert as much force as the armour has already taken with ease and witohut damage, combined with high tech shields and I doubt some small caliber devices could harm MC at all tbh or even penetrate the shield. If Dante uses pandora or high yield weapons like missles then even Chief could possibly dodge those as he is beyond the speed of a normal man and has computer assistance. Dante would ony have so much ammo as well, I dont think anything is stated that claims he has unlimited ammo in those large weapons.
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Your argument is moot.MC also uses fictional weapons.
Dante would kill MC, even if there were 10 of him.
Then youve not read my argument, fiction behind weapons is irrelvent, what is is the fact Dantes weapons involve old pistols and the argument his devil powers enhance them is not gaugable since he has few feats using this power. Despair embodied is featless and his jackpot powers are done with others.
Nah, he couldnt damage 1 MC if all he had was his guns, hed then get a Plasma blast in the crotch.
MC isn't a better shooter than Dante.
If you even played a DMC game, it's pretty ****ing obvious that he doesn't run out of ammo.
"Despair embodied is featless and his jackpot powers are done with others."
No, he isn't, I think. And no, he doesn't need others. It clearly shows that he did it himself in DMC1. Plasma couldn't do shit to Dante. And hell, no proof Chief can tank demonic magic.
I have completed all DMC games, and no he does not run out of ammo in gameplay, but then again in canon hes never had his ammo limit tested. In gameplay he can also pull most weapons from nowhere despite obviously not being able to carry them all on his person. He also has limits in gameplay that he would not in reality such as only being able to use one style, in truth he would have them all.
Despair embodied is indeed featless, certainly in durability.
In DMC 1 Dante has the powers of Trish when he blasts the weak Mundus away, but ofc you would know that if you "even played a DMC game"