Darkseid Vs Superman:Validation of Superman's victories

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Those four reasons are solid reasons. Sure a tiger can still win but the poin is the lion has the advantage. Experience,the mane,etc. all give it the edge, But tigers still kill lions. Its just lions kill more tigers.

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Hi, Steve

Well, it is true that in staged fights tigers usually retreat or try to avoid the fight at all costs. This is not, however, because they are not as good fighters as lions, but rather because they are solitary animals and no one would take care of them if they end up injured.
An injury that would be minor for a lion (who is fed by the other members of the pride) would cause death to a solitary tiger unable to hunt by itself.

Now, about those factors you mentioned:

1- It is true that lions fight a lot, but unfortunately, lion and tiger fans have spreaded the mistaken belief that lions are the fighters and tigers the hunters. Both lions and tigers are fighters AND hunters. Male tigers actually behave very much like male lions, fighting over territory constantly and often killing each other. They might not fight in groups, but they are as aggressive as lions, as any true tiger expert would tell you. Now, if you see more lion fights on TV, that's mostly because lions are much easier to see and follow, than tigers...

2- About the killing method of both cats, I would like to make clear that they don´t use them when they fight. Both lions and tigers fight mainly with their claws. Trying to use a throat grip is way too dangerous when fighting a member of their own species. When a tiger or lion dies after a fight, it is because of excessive bleeding or infection from its wounds, but they almost never get bitten in the throat.

3- The mane of lions does offer some protection, but as I said, big cats usually don´t use the throat bite in intraespecific fighting. The real function of the mane is to look as fierce and large as possible to the eyes of any possible competitor. This, and the larger average height of lions, partially explains your fourth reason; staged fights usually pit tigers against captive male lions, which have very developed manes. It is obvious that such a sight is intimidating for any captive tiger who doesn´t have a size advantage over the lion.

Note that I'm not biased towards tigers or lions. But I do think that lion fans have tried to minimize tigers using the exact reasons you gave.
My advice? Don´t take the tiger vs lion question very seriously. As I've said before, sometimes one would win, sometimes the other.

Best regards
Dewey"

quanchi112 Disney

Ok you want the link here to shut you up. I like playing around here and Ill end the debate here. Read this and then realize quan knows wtf hes talking about,

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict7.html

This is the site i was talking about.

quanchi112 Disney

I await your response.

Bransolute Dead

Originally posted by quanchi112
I await your response.
eatin popcprn, hold on. ;0

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Bransolute
eatin popcprn, hold on. ;0
Cant wait to hear what youll say when you realize its over and that Quan won.

Bransolute Dead

Originally posted by quanchi112
Cant wait to hear what youll say when you realize its over and that Quan won.
As I said before, the animal faceoff series is bullshit, and those are people that have been experts for years, and years, and warranted to be on TV.
Why would I believe something on an internet site, especially when it seems pretty bias from the start...

I've also seen the video where the lion kills the tiger... and the lion looks bigger than the tiger anyway... which isn't exactly right, since you also have to equate the natural size advantage of the tiger over the lion, which attributes to strength, which attributes to a win (usually in the wild life anyway).
It wasn't a full grown tiger, but the lion looked pretty beefy.
That's also one occasion out of like... a lot. I've seen lots of videos though that has the lion losing, and a funny one I've seen is one tiger going through a bunch of female lions, and then he swats down the male lion. There's also one, where a female tiger is beating up a male lion, and they eventually have to hose the tiger off of the lion for like a minute before she lets go.
Srsly, go look through some videos on the interweb.
It's easier to see with evidence, rather than looking at a bunch of strengths and weaknesses, and then equating a win.

I thought you were going to give video evidence or something.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Bransolute
As I said before, the animal faceoff series is bullshit, and those are people that have been experts for years, and years, and warranted to be on TV.
Why would I believe something on an internet site, especially when it seems pretty bias from the start...

I've also seen the video where the lion kills the tiger... and the lion looks bigger than the tiger anyway... which isn't exactly right, since you also have to equate the natural size advantage of the tiger over the lion, which attributes to strength, which attributes to a win (usually in the wild life anyway).
It wasn't a full grown tiger, but the lion looked pretty beefy.
That's also one occasion out of like... a lot. I've seen lots of videos though, that has the lion losing, and a funny one I've seen, is one tiger going through a bunch of female lions, and then he swats down the male lion.

I thought you were going to give video evidence or something.

They are telling you about real life encounters. So you should I just say Ill decide solely on which animal wins a the majoity on youtube videos. They are experts for a reason.

Tell me what you disagreed with. I want to hear exactly. A lion is pretty comparable to a bengal tiger. Look through the site and break down the supposed bias. They explained the reasons why the lion has the advantage, why is it you think an expert would be biased here when im sure they really dont give a shit about something as juvenile such as this.

Bransolute Dead

Originally posted by quanchi112
They are telling you about real life encounters. So you should I just say Ill decide solely on which animal wins a the majoity on youtube videos. They are experts for a reason.

Tell me what you disagreed with. I want to hear exactly. lion is pretty comparable to a bengal tiger. Look through the site and break down the supposed bias. They explained the reasons why the lion has the advantage, why is it you think an expert would be biased here when im sure they really dont give a shit about something as juvenile such as this.

They told one occasion in particular (and a super lion as I'll call him), and a couple more where tigers whip lions when they have advantage (whatever the hell that is).

Well, it's actual fights... isn't it?
Listening to experts explaining who would win is akin to listening to experts on who would win a UFC fight. You can't honestly decide who would win based on paper, and basing wins based on one fight also is a no no.

Well, for one, they got lion tamer comments, 'expert' opinions on lions, and the only thing they seem to have out of tigers is one fight from a guy who trained them for the circus, and one lion. And, they only have like one plus for the tiger. And that's that they are a good predator... not that he's bigger than the lion.
They also based a little on some on one lion that beat a bunch of tigers. Maybe that lion was bigger than the others, and maybe he was just more aggressive. All it really says, is that he was like a well trained boxer.

Plus, from the looks of it... the writer looks like a lion expert... 🙂

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Bransolute
They told one occasion in particular (and a super lion as I'll call him), and a couple more where tigers whip lions when they have advantage (whatever the hell that is).

Well, it's actual fights... isn't it?
Listening to experts explaining who would win is akin to listening to experts on who would win a UFC fight. You can't honestly decide who would win based on paper, and basing wins based on one fight also is a no no.

Well, for one, they got lion tamer comments, 'expert' opinions on lions, and the only thing they seem to have out of tigers is one fight from a guy who trained them for the circus, and one lion. And, they only have like one plus for the tiger.
They also based a little on some on one lion that beat a bunch of tigers. Maybe that lion was bigger than the others, and maybe he was just more aggressive. All it really says, is that he was like a well trained boxer.

Plus, from the looks of it... the writer looks like a lion expert...

So this site and the discovery channel are both lion lovers.

Did you only read that page.

Read this.

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict4.html

quanchi112 Disney

Again you have nothing to take away from the defense the mane gives the lion and the overall fighting experience a lion has over a tiger. You just claim that they are lion experts giving the lion the win becuz a superlion fought beastly tigers and won every single time. Why is it all the experts give lions the win. LoL. Find me an expert giving a tiger a win. How about that.

Kurash High Warlord

in world of warcraft tigers are lvl 40 and lions are level 19

tigers>lions

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Kurash
in world of warcraft tigers are lvl 40 and lions are level 19

tigers>lions

Well real life lions and tigers are much different than any fictional version that warcraft can come up with.

Lions look way cooler than tigers anyways. They are the king for a reason. 😉

Kurash High Warlord

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well real life lions and tigers are much different than any fictional version that warcraft can come up with.

Lions look way cooler than tigers anyways. They are the king for a reason. 😉

bangladesh is the fictional king of all cats and hes a lion

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King

Originally posted by Kurash
in world of warcraft tigers are lvl 40 and lions are level 19

tigers>lions

Tigers are also CR4 monsters where as Lions are CR3 monsters!

Geekdom has spoken.

Bransolute Dead

Originally posted by quanchi112
So this site and the discovery channel are both lion lovers.

Did you only read that page.

Read this.

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict4.html

I never said that.
However, that one report or whatever you just posted, seemed to have come from one view.
Also, what's your opinion on a tiger vs a gorilla?

So... two videos then? Plus, the one where the tiger died, was where the tiger was smaller than the lion... it seemed...

And the second one, I don't think I've seen it, so I can't comment on the size of the two cats.

I'd post videos, but I'm not sure what the mods views on animal fights are...

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Kurash
bangladesh is the fictional king of all cats and hes a lion
Oh brother.

Kurash High Warlord
Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh brother.

didnt know that did ya

Soljer Beware my Power
Originally posted by Bransolute

Also, what's your opinion on a tiger vs a gorilla?

Grizzly vs. Tiger vs. Gorilla vs. Lion battle royale!

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Bransolute
I never said that.
However, that one report or whatever you just posted, seemed to have come from one view.
Also, what's your opinion on a tiger vs a gorilla?

So... two videos then? Plus, the one where the tiger died, was where the tiger was smaller than the lion... it seemed...

And the second one, I don't think I've seen it, so I can't comment on the size of the two cats.

I'd post videos, but I'm not sure what the mods views on animal fights are...

Again find me an expert saying a tiger wins. You finding more tiger videos on the net proves nothing. There are experts who deal with animals and there habitats so why dont you take their word for it. Why cant you find any expert advice stating a tiger wins the majority here while it doesnt have one advantage.

Bransolute Dead

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again you have nothing to take away from the defense the mane gives the lion and the overall fighting experience a lion has over a tiger. You just claim that they are lion experts giving the lion the win becuz a superlion fought beastly tigers and won every single time. Why is it all the experts give lions the win. LoL. Find me an expert giving a tiger a win. How about that.
First off, I don't look for interviews, or expert's opinions. I was only looking through metacafe where the cat eats the baby, and then typed in tiger vs lion since it came up.

Plus, who are these 'experts' to begin with? Are they lion experts; are they tiger experts; are they poop experts?

Because, a while back, when I watched the animal faceoffs, the tiger expert said the tiger would win, and the lion expert said the lion would win.

It does help to know who these experts are as well... not that I care, just saying.