Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomStarking you dont really get involved in debating around here at all. You usually remain silent and will get pissed at me for what Im saying and jump in for a quick post or two. To me you are just an onlooker watching all the action and not really participating that much at all. I mean I dont see you ever going into the battlezone and its your right not to but as a poster I dont really think you read that much if Im honest here.
No, I'm damn sure Supes didn't have a power up of any kind. That's part of the reason it's brought up so much. Ask Avlon or Juntai, they'll tell you.And yeah, it's obvious that showing is pis. I was just mentioning Superman's numerous bullshit feats, to inform you on how he's constantly doing things he has [b]no
business doing.
Part of the mockery comes from ignorance and having a bias and closed minded mentality. And why care about what other boards think. Since you come here so damn much, I'm going to assume this is your favorite hang out.... 🙄And I'm not impressed by you, because you ignore major details in both context and statements, so you can make whatever silly argument under your sleeve, continue further.
I find it very odd how you criticize peoples debating styles, when you have some of the most flawed logic, seen by man. You could be right about the outcome of a match, but the way you argue and counter points, your incapable of convincing the most idiotic posters imaginable. [/B]
I bring up other boards to let you know im not unfair with Darkseid but that I have defended him before and someone actually accused me of being a fanboy or something to that effect. Ask soljer about this. My viewpoints dont change as you think the would and I dont jump on the bandwagon on herochat or on cbr when they called darkseid things like jobersied or pussyseid. I am who I am and just try to tone down the fantacial views of a few posters on here. You happen to be one of them but choose to remain silent for the most part nowadays.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You keep bringing up superman defeating dominus. Well first things first did he have a powerup becuz I didnt read the story and im sure that it sounds logical that if he defeated dominus then it wasnt just striaght up like you want me to think.
Put it this way.
There's a reason you always hear about Dominus and T-Vo and all that stuff, but rarely see anyone posting scans of it.
Originally posted by quanchi112And this matters why? I enjoy reading other peoples debates, because it's very entertaining and you learn all kinds of things. I don't participate in battlezones because that's not my style. And like you said, that' my right. So what's the point of bringing this up? If you want to talk about how much people get involved in discussions, then I can bring up how you creep around various threads and goad people. I think it's better to be silent, than to be some what annoying don't you agree? And I'm not just saying this to put you down either. I just think it's hypocritical to mention how I behave, when in fact your notorious for your actions.
[B]Starking you dont really get involved in debating around here at all. You usually remain silent and will get pissed at me for what Im saying and jump in for a quick post or two. To me you are just an onlooker watching all the action and not really participating that much at all. I mean I dont see you ever going into the battlezone and its your right not to but as a poster I dont really think you read that much if Im honest here.
I bring up other boards to let you know im not unfair with Darkseid but that I have defended him before and someone actually accused me of being a fanboy or something to that effect. Ask soljer about this. My viewpoints dont change as you think the would and I dont jump on the bandwagon on herochat or on cbr when they called darkseid things like jobersied or pussyseid. I am who I am and just try to tone down the fantacial views of a few posters on here. You happen to be one of them but choose to reamin silent for the most part nowadays.I know you try to defend him and I respect you for trying. 🙂 The problem is you contradict yourself alot to a point it confuses the hell out of me. One minute you could be defending Ds, then the next minute you'll be downplaying him. It's hard not to judge you in the way I do, when you carry yourself in such a manner. I will give you credit for one thing, I think you've improved a bit as a poster, and I have gained a little respect for you. Hopefully you'll improve some more rather than vice versa.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomAgain for the last time I dont care what your personal thought are about me this is an internet forum and no one really cares in the end. If I annoy people then oh well I do read comics and I do like to debate about them. Do I know everything? Hell no. But I do learn a lot here and these forums push me to read comics. I was outta the game since the infinity crap came out. I have read in five months a shitload of stuff. I will read more and sometimes Ill admit I went into a thread with knowing little about a character and stuck to what I said.
And this matters why? I enjoy reading other peoples debates, because it's very entertaining and you learn all kinds of things. I don't participate in battlezones because that's not my style. And like you said, that' my right. So what's the point of bringing this up? If you want to talk about how much people get involved in discussions, then I can bring up how you creep around various threads and goad people. I think it's better to be silent, than to be some what annoying don't you agree? And I'm not just saying this to put you down either. I just think it's hypocritical to mention how I behave, when in fact your notorious for your actions.I know you try to defend him and I respect you for trying. 🙂 The problem is you contradict yourself alot to a point it confuses the hell out of me. One minute you could be defending Ds, then the next minute you'll be downplaying him. It's hard not to judge you in the way I do, when you carry yourself in such a manner. I will give you credit for one thing, I think you've improved a bit as a poster, and I have gained a little respect for you. Hopefully you'll improve some more rather than vice versa.
One decision I have changed my mind about was thor vs cyborg with the rings. Cyborg would smoke him indeed. But I will continue to read more and learn to grown. Am I stubborn oh hell yes I am. So i can see where this puts some people off but I am who I am and thats that.
With regards to Darkseid and how you say one minute I like him and one minute I mock him. Heres the answer its becuz of Darkseid fans on here. I havent changed my viewpoints on him. Is he powerful hell yeah. I sound like stone cold here with all the hell yeahs. But I have always maintained that Darkseids weakness is him getting into a prolonged physical fight with someone where his omega or what not didnt just win him the fight. This is being verified now as Superman has been credited as being his rival physically. When i brought my viewpoints up initially I heard everything from loeb being the only writer to give Ds the win to pis and cis. its like everything was excused and ignored. Im happy that dc is backing up my personal opinion. I still think Ds in general is more powerful but its due to his powers and not some physical advantage that he has on superman becuz he doesnt. His recent victory over Orion with a hand gesture backs up what I say also. He didnt physically lay a hand on him but defeated him wit his awesome powers and it worked. The fight didnt carry on becuz I believe if it would have Darkseid could have lost and the likelihood goes up when the fight doesnt end quickly in my eyes.
Ok you are an observer here while I usually go into a thread with guns blazing. So I guess we like different characters and are different posters. That we can agree on.
Originally posted by quanchi112Atleast your being sincere enough to admit your flaws. We all have them(including myself of course), and it's good to fix your mistakes.
[B]Again for the last time I dont care what your personal thought are about me this is an internet forum and no one really cares in the end. If I annoy people then oh well I do read comics and I do like to debate about them. Do I know everything? Hell no. But I do learn a lot here and these forums push me to read comics. I was outta the game since the infinity crap came out. I have read in five months a shitload of stuff. I will read more and sometimes Ill admit I went into a thread with knowing little about a character and stuck to what I said.
One decision I have changed my mind about was thor vs cyborg with the rings. Cyborg would smoke him indeed. But I will continue to read more and learn to grown. Am I stubborn oh hell yes I am. So i can see where this puts some people off but I am who I am and thats that.Like I said earlier you've improved. Your learning to put your stubbornness behind you to see the truth. That's called maturity and if I see more of that from you, I can fully respect as a debator and a opponent. 🙂
With regards to Darkseid and how you say one minute I like him and one minute I mock him. Heres the answer its becuz of Darkseid fans on here. I havent changed my viewpoints on him. Is he powerful hell yeah. I sound like stone cold here with all the hell yeahs. But I have always maintained that Darkseids weakness is him getting into a prolonged physical fight with someone where his omega or what not didnt just win him the fight. This is being verified now as Superman has been credited as being his rival physically. When i brought my viewpoints up initially I heard everything from loeb being the only writer to give Ds the win to pis and cis. its like everything was excused and ignored. Im happy that dc is backing up my personal opinion. I still think Ds in general is more powerful but its due to his powers and not some physical advantage that he has on superman becuz he doesnt. His recent victory over Orion with a hand gesture backs up what I say also. He didnt physically lay a hand on him but defeated him wit his awesome powers and it worked. The fight didnt carry on becuz I believe if it would have Darkseid could have lost and the likelihood goes up when the fight doesnt end quickly in my eyes.If you don't like how people express there opinions , then why the hell do you turn around and use the same logic? This is what irks me about you Quan, you don't stay true to your words and you don't practice what you preach. You can't convince a toddler to stop crapping his pants, when your doing the same yourself. You can't convince Whitney Houston that snorting coke is bad for you, when you just got done doing it yourself. Hypocrisy throws people off and it never persuades anyone with good judgement. You can't say Ds admitted that Superman is superior, when at the same time we have Superman stalemating Orion. And we know Orion is<Ds, when it comes down to strength. I doesn't sound right to give Darkseid the nods in fight against Mordru, then try to use Superman being his rival in physical strength, in another match as a counter point. It's not proper to play that card when you only feel like it. Am I lying or exaggerating? No, I've seen you use that example in a Odin thread. I think that all can agree that a good debator sees both his and his opponents logic. You have to think a little about what you say.
Ok you are an observer here while I usually go into a thread with guns blazing. So I guess we like different characters and are different posters. That we can agree on.That's fine, and I have no problem with it.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomSee the thing is that Orion and Superman only fought briefly as we have also seen Darkseid and Superman stalemate. Darkseid is above Orion like I have said and is above Superman but not physically but surpasses them with his overall powers. I am not being a hypocrit. I have acknowledged that Ds saw Superman as his rival but its my opinion that in hand to hand fighting Superman is more than Ds.
Atleast your being sincere enough to admit your flaws. We all have them(including myself of course), and it's good to fix your mistakes.Like I said earlier you've improved. Your learning to put your stubbornness behind you to see the truth. That's called maturity and if I see more of that from you, I can fully respect as a debator and a opponent. 🙂
If you don't like how people express there opinions , then why the hell do you turn around and use the same logic? This is what irks me about you Quan, you don't stay true to your words and you don't practice what you preach. You can't convince a toddler to stop crapping his pants, when your doing the same yourself. You can't convince Whitney Houston that snorting coke is bad for you, when you just got done doing it yourself. Hypocrisy throws people off and it never persuades anyone with good judgement. You can't say Ds admitted that Superman is superior, when at the same time we have Superman stalemating Orion. And we know Orion is<Ds, when it comes down to strength. I doesn't sound right to give Darkseid the nods in fight against Mordru, then try to use Superman being his rival in physical strength, in another match as a counter point. It's not proper to play that card when you only feel like it. Am I lying or exaggerating? No, I've seen you use that example in a Odin thread. I think that all can agree that a good debator sees both his and his opponents logic. You have to think a little about what you say.
That's fine, and I have no problem with it.
Well Mordru wouldnt be exchanging punches with Darkseid now would he and the encounter they had was very weird to say the least. First off Mordru didnt know who he was facing and then just got his powers stolen. So it wasnt a true and fair encounter imo. Mordru could beat Darkseid in a fair fight most certainly but I feel dc favors Darkseid and if they met currently especially now Ds would win hands down. Its his time in the sun right now.