Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
A. Surfer's durability has stood up to things far greater than Supes can physically dish out.B. Surfer fights Thanos the way he fights most people. Energy blasts. OnlY Thanos is approximately 40 leagues above Surfer, Superman, any top tier and thus said approach won't workt eh way it does on other heroes or villains.
On no you don't really think this do you? You can't possible for real in honestly think either of these points are anywhere nearly correct.
Originally posted by bobbi
well the earth weighs around 6 x 10^24 tons which is 6,000,000 quintillion...thor lifted the midgar serpent which is at least comparable to the weight of the earth... so if you want to use that number of 60 quintillion as the max for superman you're free too....
As soon as you start bringing celestial feats into the mix, yeah, "quintillion" becomes an almost quaint number.
Originally posted by bobbi
well the earth weighs around 6 x 10^24 tons which is 6,000,000 quintillion...thor lifted the midgar serpent which is at least comparable to the weight of the earth... so if you want to use that number of 60 quintillion as the max for superman you're free too....
No. the midgard serpent didn't weigh nearly as much as the earth did. Thor also was on a ship which was pulling him along with the serpent. Feat invalid.
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasI was just going to say the same thing...
B. Surfer fights Thanos the way he fights most people. Energy blasts. OnlY Thanos is approximately 40 leagues above Surfer, Superman, any top tier and thus said approach won't workt eh way it does on other heroes or villains.
He has even tried to use speed against Thanos... and got caught.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl😂
No. the midgard serpent didn't weigh nearly as much as the earth did. Thor also was on a ship which was pulling him along with the serpent. Feat invalid.
Although it never said how much the snake actually weighed (not that I saw anyway), the second part is ridicules.
"well the earth weighs around 6 x 10^24 tons which is 6,000,000 quintillion...thor lifted the midgar serpent which is at least comparable to the weight of the earth... so if you want to use that number of 60 quintillion as the max for superman you're free too...."
Uhmmmm.... that makes Superman look pretty weak. You know what? I think the writers of comics need to be fired. Or how about just merging both Marvel and DC??? I wish they would, then we could see who the true heavy hitters are.
Originally posted by Bransolute
😂Although it never said how much the snake actually weighed (not that I saw anyway), the second part is ridicules.
In the feat itself, the snake appeared to take up MUCH less volume, not to mention the fact that the Earth is much more dense than snake-flesh.
However; in 'myth,' the serpent weighed as much as the Earth, hence where that belief comes from.
On no you don't really think this do you? You can't possible for real in honestly think either of these points are anywhere nearly correct.
Nope. Norrin's taken worse physical punishment than any punch from normal Supes could come close to equaling.
And no, it's entirely correct. Surfer fails miserably against Thanos because Thanos is probably at least twice as powerful than any top tier. And that's a low estimate.
Originally posted by Bransolute
The one where he got killed.
He flew at him shooting blasts, and then Thanos uppercut him (because Surfer can't affect him with blasts).
And that was different from any of the other fights they have had where surfer fought like an idiot? i didn't see any creative use of speed.
Originally posted by Soljer
In the feat itself, the snake appeared to take up MUCH less volume, not to mention the fact that the Earth is much more dense than snake-flesh.However; in 'myth,' the serpent weighed as much as the Earth, hence where that belief comes from.
I don't recall anything like that in the myth. He encircled the world (completely underwater) and his only feats involved poison, flooding the planet and weighing substantially more than a cat.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Nope. Norrin's taken worse physical punishment than any punch from normal Supes could come close to equaling.And no, it's entirely correct. Surfer fails miserably against Thanos because Thanos is probably at least twice as powerful than any top tier. And that's a low estimate.
Surfer has beaten foes far beyond thanos. Surfer jobbers to Thanos. Surfer has also been harmed by lightning. Superman certainly can harm surfer. Superman can absorb all of the light of the anti sun. Surfer went mad from one lil star absorbtion. You see, if you look at them both, They really can beat the crap out of each other.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I don't recall anything like that in the myth. He encircled the world (completely underwater) and his only feats involved poison, flooding the planet and weighing substantially more than a cat.
Really? It's easily possible that I'm mistaken. I just thought that the Jörmungandr was described as equaling the Earth's weight.
Originally posted by AvlonSurfer's full out blasts have shown that they can't hurt Thanos anyway...
He flew directly at Thanos...and shot blasts at him... generic blasts that won't take out top tier bricks.There wasn't any speedblitz there.
That must be why Surfer has KO'ed Hulk... with less than the effort he put against Thanos...
I never said blitz, I said 'speed'. Trying to knock Thanos off balance with power and speed, is what it looked like.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlWhich matters little when he can't beat Thanos. That's terrible logic as well.
Surfer has beaten foes far beyond thanos. Surfer jobbers to Thanos.
No he doesn't job, he can't do anything to him in the first place.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlSurfer was harmed by lighting... when at the start of the comic, Surfer couldn't even walk, and Wonder Man beat up on him for like 10 pages, without KO'ing him... Pissed Wonder Man.
Surfer has also been harmed by lightning. Superman certainly can harm surfer. Superman can absorb all of the light of the anti sun. Surfer went mad from one lil star absorbtion. You see, if you look at them both, They really can beat the crap out of each other.
You also forgot the time Surfer took a cosmic bolt from Korvac to no effect that would have destroyed a planet...
Surfer absorbed a bunch of energy from a red giant...
And absorbing anything is irrelevant right now...