Thanos vs. Superman:In a contest of strength

Started by Avlon17 pages

Originally posted by Bransolute
Surfer's full out blasts have shown that they can't hurt Thanos anyway...

That must be why Surfer has KO'ed Hulk... with less than the effort he put against Thanos...

I never said blitz, I said 'speed'. Trying to knock Thanos off balance with power and speed, is what it looked like.

When has SS done a "full out blast" on Thanos? How powerful was said blast.

And SS flew directly at Thanos..how fast, we don't know...but it wasn't fast enough apparently.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Which matters little when he can't beat Thanos. That's terrible logic as well.

No he doesn't job, he can't do anything to him in the first place.

Surfer was harmed by lighting... when at the start of the comic, Surfer couldn't even walk, and Wonder Man beat up on him for like 10 pages, without KO'ing him... Pissed Wonder Man.
And in the time Surfer came back to fight, there is no way he can grow to full power.

You also forgot the time Surfer took a cosmic bolt from Korvac to no effect that would have destroyed a planet...

Surfer absorbed a bunch of energy from a red giant...
And absorbing anything is irrelevant right now...


Superman has taken shots from the AM. From Parallax, ect. They can beat the crap out of each other.

Originally posted by Avlon
When has SS done a "full out blast" on Thanos? How powerful was said blast.

And SS flew directly at Thanos..how fast, we don't know...but it wasn't fast enough apparently.

The first time he met Thanos basically. Powerful enough for Thanos not to take notice, or even acknowledge it as a threat...
And it was Surfer's full concentrated blast, so it was more powerful than the ones where he holds back (ie, against heros and such), I guess if you want an explanation...

Apparently.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Superman has taken shots from the AM. From Parallax, ect. They can beat the crap out of each other.
This isn't a durability contest.

You brought up a low showing for Surfer, so I brought up a cosmic heat volt from Kovac doing nothing, and also explained why the low showing happened.

Originally posted by Bransolute
The first time he met Thanos basically. Powerful enough for Thanos not to take notice, or even acknowledge it as a threat...

Apparently.

This isn't a durability contest.

You brought up a low showing for Surfer, so I brought up a cosmic heat volt from Kovac doing nothing, and also explained why the low showing happened.

That was too low of a showing. I could see magneto or someone getting the better of surfer got a bit. but Storm? Never. Anyway, Superman's heat vision has deflected the omega beams power, and pwn despero in one shot. Im sure he can dmg the surfer and vice versa.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That was too low of a showing. I could see magneto or someone getting the better of surfer got a bit. but Storm? Never. Anyway, Superman's heat vision has deflected the omega beams power, and pwn despero in one shot. Im sure he can dmg the surfer and vice versa.
If you actually read what I said (for once), you'd know why it happened...

Heat's not supposed to affect Surfer much (at normal power). That's why I brought up him taking a blast from Korvac to no effect.

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Also... AM squashed Superman in that scene...🤨
And Parallax one shotted him...

Originally posted by Bransolute
If you actually read what I said (for once), you'd know why it happened...

Heat's not supposed to affect Surfer much (at normal power). That's why I brought up him taking a blast from Korvac to no effect.

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Also... AM squashed Superman in that scene...🤨
And Parallax one shotted him...

Then clearly surfer jobbers to Thanos if He can take blast from Korvak at normal power. Which helps me prove my point.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No. the midgard serpent didn't weigh nearly as much as the earth did. Thor also was on a ship which was pulling him along with the serpent. Feat invalid.

ok notice I said comparable not equal too.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/midgardserpent1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/midgardserpent2.jpg

I thank Larceny from the respect forum for posting this. Using the numbers given all we need is for the serpent to weigh 1/100,000th the weight of the earth. earths density is around 5,500kg/m^3, density of flesh of a magic serpent..we'll just assume the density of water which i think is fair for organic creatures so thats 1,000kg/m^3. so if we convert the serpent to the same density we're looking at a serpent 5.5x smaller. from the pic we can see the serpent is at least maybe 1/20 the size of the earth? I don't have the best estimating skills but lets even say 1/100th the size. we can all agree that it looks bigger than that. accounting for density it'll be around 1/550 the weight of the earth. which is still around 10,000 quintillion tons.

And this is a pretty conservative estimate from the picture..the moon should be around 1/50th the volume of the earth and the snake is obviously larger than that by a good amount.

and it was said before, the boat thing moving doesn't make much sense to me..

Originally posted by bobbi
ok notice I said comparable not equal too.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/midgardserpent1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/midgardserpent2.jpg

I thank Larceny from the respect forum for posting this. Using the numbers given all we need is for the serpent to weigh 1/100,000th the weight of the earth. earths density is around 5,500kg/m^3, density of flesh of a magic serpent..we'll just assume the density of water which i think is fair for organic creatures so thats 1,000kg/m^3. so if we convert the serpent to the same density we're looking at a serpent 5.5x smaller. from the pic we can see the serpent is at least maybe 1/20 the size of the earth? I don't have the best estimating skills but lets even say 1/100th the size. we can all agree that it looks bigger than that. accounting for density it'll be around 1/550 the weight of the earth. which is still around 10,000 quintillion tons.

And this is a pretty conservative estimate from the picture..the moon should be around 1/50th the volume of the earth and the snake is obviously larger than that by a good amount.

and it was said before, the boat thing moving doesn't make much sense to me..

The point being, Superman has moved far larger. Hell ww has. And thor was being propelled by the boat away from the earth. Thus the snake was actually being moved by the boat. the string was held by thor and thor broke the snakes grip. to which, we do not know the pounds per square inch that the snake was exerting.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Then clearly surfer jobbers to Thanos if He can take blast from Korvak at normal power. Which helps me prove my point.
The blast from Korvac was heat. Heat isn't supposed to affect Surfer much. Thanos doesn't throw heat...

Can you please comprehend anything I say? Please? 🙂

Originally posted by Bransolute
The first time he met Thanos basically. Powerful enough for Thanos not to take notice, or even acknowledge it as a threat...
And it was Surfer's full concentrated blast, so it was more powerful than the ones where he holds back (ie, against heros and such), I guess if you want an explanation...

Apparently.

"Basically" at full power or was it a full power blast?

There are a few ways to spin this, but basically SS fights like a fool against Thanos.

Originally posted by Bransolute
The blast from Korvac was heat. Heat isn't supposed to affect Surfer much. Thanos doesn't throw heat...

Can you please comprehend anything I say? Please? 🙂

Heat doesn't affect surfer? How has he done against Firelord? After absorbing too much heat from a star? ect.

Originally posted by Avlon
"Basically" at full power or was it a full power blast?

There are a few ways to spin this, but basically SS fights like a fool against Thanos.

Everyone does. Except gamora.

It's worth noting it appears Morrison prefers the Traditional British method of numbers. That would make it 10^30 rather than the American 10^18. Which is about 100o times the weight of the sun.

Originally posted by Avlon
"Basically" at full power or was it a full power blast?

There are a few ways to spin this, but basically SS fights like a fool against Thanos.

"Basically", meaning it was the first time he met Thanos.
"The first time he met Thanos basically."

Surfer himself said he put all his power into the blasts.

What more can Surfer do then? Punch him? Turn him into pudding? Throw fecal matter at him?
No, Surfer can't do anything to Thanos, and even if he threw him in another dimension, it's not like Thanos can't teleport back.

I'm confused as to what Surfer is going to do to him... and why he jobs.
Even a full out blitz shouldn't anything to him... coming from Surfer.

Almost everything Surfer has done, Thanos has resisted something better.
Surfer has almost no options but to try and hit him with blasts, and mount an offense.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Heat doesn't affect surfer? How has he done against Firelord? After absorbing too much heat from a star? ect.
I said 'much' (comprehension?).
Firelord was constantly outputting cosmic energy, and we know Firelord can destroy a planet easily with his heat. It was bugging Surfer, but it's not like he would have been destroyed.

That's an energy absorption feat, having almost nothing to do with resistance.

And before anyone brings up Torch... Torch has never hurt Surfer, only knocked him off his board, to my recollection.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Everyone does. Except gamora.
So, we should take into account something that contradicts both Thanos's history, and Gamora's, and ignore everything else? Oh nvr, you are a slick dog, you are.

Anyway... continue twisting my points and ignoring everything. I'm done trying to debate with you. 🙂

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Everyone does. Except gamora.

Not just Gamora, Starfox as well...now THIS is using speed against Thanos.

Originally posted by Avlon
Not just Gamora, Starfox as well...now THIS is using speed against Thanos.

Clone. 🙂

Also, Thanos took him out in the next page.

Originally posted by Bransolute
"Basically", meaning it was the first time he met Thanos.
"The first time he met Thanos basically."

Surfer himself said he put all his power into the blasts.

What more can Surfer do then? Punch him? Turn him into pudding? Throw fecal matter at him?
No, Surfer can't do anything to Thanos, and even if he threw him in another dimension, it's not like Thanos can't teleport back.

I'm confused as to what Surfer is going to do to him... and why he jobs.
Even a full out blitz shouldn't anything to him... coming from Surfer.

So Starfox is more powerful, and faster than Surfer.

Basically.

Originally posted by Bransolute
No, Surfer can't do anything to Thanos, and even if he threw him in another dimension, it's not like Thanos can't teleport back.

Like this? He was simply put in deep space and was stuck.

Originally posted by Bransolute
I'm confused as to what Surfer is going to do to him... and why he jobs.
Even a full out blitz shouldn't anything to him... coming from Surfer.

He can try...not jobbing.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Clone. 🙂

Also, Thanos took him out in the next page.

clone
n : a group of genetically identical cells or organisms derived
from a single cell or individual by some kind of asexual
reproduction.

clone n. 1. An exact duplicate: "Our product is a clone of their
product." Implies a legal reimplementation from documentation or by
reverse-engineering.

Originally posted by Avlon
So Starfox is more powerful, and faster than Surfer.

Basically.

Clone. 🙂

Originally posted by Avlon
Like this? He was simply put in deep space and was stuck.

And years later, Thanos teleports... amazing.

It's called character development.

Originally posted by Avlon
He can try...not jobbing.
And yet, he can't affect him. 🙂

Originally posted by Bransolute
Clone. 🙂

clone
n : a group of genetically identical cells or organisms derived
from a single cell or individual by some kind of asexual
reproduction.

clone n. 1. An exact duplicate: "Our product is a clone of their
product." Implies a legal reimplementation from documentation or by
reverse-engineering.

Originally posted by Bransolute
And years later, Thanos teleports... amazing.

It's called character development.

A lot of characters can teleport with tech. 🙂

Originally posted by Bransolute
And yet, he can't affect him. 🙂

Which means he isn't fighting to full potential...since you know...he tries to box Thanos out.