Not really, glassing a planet's surface
No quotes saying he did this.
So, bullshit.
isn't nearly as impressive as wounding it enough to draw all of it energy to the wound and absorb it
Um, the tiny piss-ant crater on just Northern Continent drained the entire area around it of energy and, 2 millennia later, isn't healed yet.
, or the even more impressive making your own lifestream and killing off the planet with it
Sephiroth never did the second part and his own Lifestream never was as powerful as the actual one (or he could have just changed the Planet right then and there into his vessel, instead of telling Cloud on what he "planned" to do as in, he couldn't do it at the time and as in, he hadn't done it yet and his dumb clouds were in the process of attemtping it) Afterall, Seph's plan was to use those who died of Geostigma and rejoined the Planet to "choke" the natural Lifestream and corrupt it. But not nearly enough people have the disease to do this. The Lifestream must consist of millions of souls and consciousnesses joined together over the millennia. As opposed to the possibly hundreds/thousands of people with Geostigma. It was never more than an epidemic, never a pandemic.
Sephiroth: The last thoughts of Geostigma's dead. Those remnants will join the lifestream and girdle the planet, choking it, corroding it. What I want, Cloud... is to sail the darkness of the cosmos with this planet as my vessel, just as my mother did long ago.
No quotes saying he did this.So, bullshit.
The FFIX UOG isn't bull.
Um, the tiny piss-ant crater on just Northern Continent drained the entire area around it of energy and, 2 millennia later, isn't healed yet.
I was talking about what Meteor was going to do silly, the Northern crater was caused by Jenova, not Sephiroth. You might want to play FF VII.
Sephiroth never did the second part and his own Lifestream never was as powerful as the actual one (or he could have just changed the Planet right thena nd there into his vessel, instead of telling Cloud on what he "planned" to do as in, he couldn't do it at the time and as in, he hadn't done it yet) Afterall, Seph's plan was to use those who died of Geostigma and rejoined the Planet to "choke" the natural Lifestream and corrupt it. But not nearly enough people have the disease to do this. The Lifestream must consist of millions of souls and consciousnesses joined together over the millennia. As opposed to the possibly hundreds/thousands of people with Geostigma. It was never more than an epidemic, never a pandemic.Sephiroth: The last thoughts of Geostigma's dead. Those remnants will join the lifestream and girdle the planet, choking it, corroding it. What I want, Cloud... is to sail the darkness of the cosmos with this planet as my vessel, just as my mother did long ago.
You really don't know much about FF VII. Play Dirge of Cerberus, Geostigma was a world wide phenomena. The tainted folks Hojo/Weiss speaks of are those with Geostigma, though after Sephiroth's defeat in AC the Jenova cells remained inert in them. There's a reason the DG troopers helmet visor said "geostigma detected" befiore he killed the people in Kalm.
So in summary, Geostigma was worldwide, and DoC proves it.
The FFIX UOG isn't bull.
No it isn't. But the UOG doesn't say he only razed the surface. It says Terra is in Gaia...which anyone who PLAYED THE GAME would know. It's like the FFVII UOG teling us Jenova is an alien. You play the game and have a memory, you know these things.
Also, again, do tell me how your real world logic applies to FFIX? How does real world logic explain how a civilization moves a foreign planet into another's planet's core? How does it explain creating magical barriers to separate the two worlds?
You and that poster use real world logic to say "if Kuja blew up Terra, it would blow up Gaia" But Terra and Gaia are already not connected fully thanks to magic. So, how can you say this? Come on. I dare you.
I was talking about what Meteor was going to do silly, the Northern crater was caused by Jenova, not Sephiroth. You might want to play FF VII.
God you're an arrogant prig.
I was showing you how pathetic FFVII Gaia is. A not even continent sized crater is sufficient to plague the planet for millennia. So, Meteor actually causing a planet-killing would could be failry unimpressive. It could destroy half a continent maybe and be fatal.
Even Kuja razing a planet, which he didn't do, would be more impressive.
You really don't know much about FF VII. Play Dirge of Cerberus, Geostigma was a world wide phenomena. The tainted folks Hojo/Weiss speaks of are those with Geostigma, though after Sephiroth's defeat in AC the Jenova cells remained inert in them. There's a reason the DG troopers helmet visor said "geostigma detected" befiore he killed the people in Kalm.So in summary, Geostigma was worldwide, and DoC proves it.
No quotes or proof as usual. Vaguely gesturing to a source isn't proving anything, bud.
How about you actually back up a claim for once in your "debating" career?
No it isn't. But the UOG doesn't say he only razed the surface. It says Terra is in Gaia...which anyone who PLAYED THE GAME would know. It's like the FFVII UOG teling us Jenova is an alien. You play the game and have a memory, you know these things.Also, again, do tell me how your real world logic applies to FFIX? How does real world logic explain how a civilization moves a foreign planet into antoher's planet's core? How does it explain creating magical barriers to separate the two worlds?
You and that poster use real world logic to say "if Kuja blew up Terra, it would blow up Gaia" But Terra and Gaia are already not connected fully thanks to magic. So, how can you say this? Come on. I dare you.
Kuja not Death Starring Terra is the most logical explanation, and because of these facts the only one that makes sense. To be honest you're the only person who's played FFIX that I've met who didn't realize he just hit the surface.
Talka bout being dumb. You missed the point entirely.I was showing you how pathetic FFVII Gaia is. A not even continent sized crater is sufficient to plague the planet for millennia. So, Meteor actually causing a planet-killing would could be failry unimpressive. It could destroy ahlf a continent maybe and be fatal.
Even Kuja razing a planet, which he didn't do, would be more impressive.
No, calling a Meteor to obliterate a planet is far more impressive than just nuking the surface.
No quotes or proof as usual. Vaguely gesturing to a source isn't proving anything, bud.How about you actually back up a claim for once in your "debating" career?
Play Dirge of Cerberus, like I said. Giving you the direct statemwent that the DG troopers helmet visor read "geiostigma detected" is not a vague gesture, its a fact. Seems its you, as it is always, with the lack of debating skill.
Kuja not Death Starring Terra is the most logical explanation, and because of these facts the only one that makes sense. To be honest you're the only person who's played FFIX that I've met who didn't realize he just hit the surface.
I really don't care what these people think. In fact, look around. ESB and SBP played FFIX I believe. So, they think he blew up the planet. You know three people now. I know a guy who wrote an essay on Kuja's powers and explaiend why he blew it up. 4. So...your attempts at "majority rules" fails like everything else.
And no one said he Death Starred anything. That would imply he held out a hand, shot a blast and the planet exploded into pieces. Ever heard of a chain reaction? Several powerful hits to a planet can cause it to explode.
I like this. What "facts"? Terra was already assimilating Gaia as I posted, Garland says the assimilation is the Terran souls replacing Gaia's. It's been doing this for centuries now. The fact Gaia didn't blow with Terra is similarly not a basis for saying he didn't blow up the planet as already stated, there's a magical barrier between the two worlds.
Play Dirge of Cerberus, like I said. Giving you the direct statemwent that the DG troopers helmet visor read "geiostigma detected" is not a vague gesture, its a fact. Seems its you, as it is always, with the lack of debating skill.
Still no proof. Alright.
No, calling a Meteor to obliterate a planet is far more impressive than just nuking the surface.
lol, Destroying a planet utterly in minutes > taking a ****ING WEEK for a rock to show up and crash into a town.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
No quotes saying he did this.So, bullshit.
Um, the tiny piss-ant crater on just Northern Continent drained the entire area around it of energy and, 2 millennia later, isn't healed yet.
Sephiroth never did the second part and his own Lifestream never was as powerful as the actual one (or he could have just changed the Planet right then and there into his vessel, instead of telling Cloud on what he "planned" to do as in, he couldn't do it at the time and as in, he hadn't done it yet and his dumb clouds were in the process of attemtping it) Afterall, Seph's plan was to use those who died of Geostigma and rejoined the Planet to "choke" the natural Lifestream and corrupt it. But not nearly enough people have the disease to do this. The Lifestream must consist of millions of souls and consciousnesses joined together over the millennia. As opposed to the possibly hundreds/thousands of people with Geostigma. It was never more than an epidemic, never a pandemic.
Sephiroth: The last thoughts of Geostigma's dead. Those remnants will join the lifestream and girdle the planet, choking it, corroding it. What I want, Cloud... is to sail the darkness of the cosmos with this planet as my vessel, just as my mother did long ago.
Sephiroth contaminated the lifestream when he finally went in, when you contaminate something, the contamination spreads, it doesnt matter how many people died, itll eventually spread throughout the lifestream.. for example a glass of water (the water representing the lifestream), when u put a piece of rusty metal in it(the metal representing sephiroth), eventually all of the water become contaminated, when people die from geostigma, its like adding another small piece of rusty metal into the water, itll just speed up the contamination.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
The FFIX UOG isn't bull.
Oh yeah well according to the FFIX UOG Kuja flew down into Terra's surface and picked up a piece of land and tossed it at the Invincible and destroyed it before they can leave and then Kuja destroyed Gaia and everything else. I don't have any links or scans or anything to back up this but I say it's from the UOG so you have to believe me.
You see how easy it is to say anything. Please provide scans or links or anything to back up your claim. We give you direct quotes from the game showing that Kuja destroyed a planet and all you've done and deny it because that would mean another FF character is stronger than Sephiroth.
Face it summoning a Meteor that took a month to come down to be stopped is nothing compared to Kuja whipping out a planet within minutes. And please Kefka changed the entire planet to his liking and killed anyone who didn't worship him with the Light of Judgment. Kefka and Kuja are both stronger than Sephiroth.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Sephiroth never did the second part and his own Lifestream never was as powerful as the actual one.
What are you saying then, is that Sephiroth is weaker than Omega and Minerva, the represantation(s) of all the planet/Lifestream itself.
I think Kitase and Nomura disagrees with you. 🙄
Originally posted by ESB -1138
No never once did the creators say Sephiroth can destroy a planet. Provide proof, provide back up. And Kuja > Sephiroth is fact. Fact: Kuja destroyed a planet. Fact: Sephiroth has never even been shown to have such power even with Black Materia.Kuja surpasses Sephiroth; nuff said. Unless you can back up your claim that Sephiroth can destroy a planet don't even reply to this
Show me proof of Kuja destroying a planet, outside of hyperbole.
Originally posted by SHM
What are you saying then, is that Sephiroth is weaker than Omega and Minerva, the represantation(s) of [B]all the planet/Lifestream itself.I think Kitase and Nomura disagrees with you. 🙄 [/B]
Show me some feats Minerva has done...oh yeah that's right she hasn't done anything. Omega never had control of the Lifestream. He was able to move it from planet to planet. Just because Omega can do something doesn't mean Sephiroth can. You are really showing more and more fanboysim by the second. You try to act smart but you fail horribly.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Show me some feats Minerva has done...oh yeah that's right she hasn't done anything. Omega never had control of the Lifestream. He was able to move it from planet to planet. Just because Omega can do something doesn't mean Sephiroth can. You are really showing more and more fanboysim by the second. You try to act smart but you fail horribly.
I'm not trying to act smart, I just know what I'm talking about. Minerva is the living will/consciousness of the planet... Who/what do you think created the Weapons, Chaos, Holy, and etc? The planet AKA Minerva. These are some of her feats.
And Omega's body is composed of Lifestream of the entire planet. He basicaly IS the Lifestream.
Sephiroth is equal to them. I'm not talking about Seph being capable of doing the same things they can. I'm talking about two characters with control over all the Lifestream, and an official statemen saying that nothing is above Sephiroth.
So, if both of these characters are composed of/can controll the Lifestream, how can you say Seph's Lifestream(his source of power) is weaker than the normal Lifestream(Omega/Minerva)? You are going against the word of Kitase and Nomura here.
I see you're still desperately trying to explain away you being wrong about Terra. The fact is he only nuked the surface with multiple blasts. Palmer of the ShinRa company, a fat, childish, old man, could do that with several blasts from the Sister Ray. Not very impressive if Palmer could do it.
Still no proof. Alright.
Still unwilling to accept that you're wrong I see. I don't know how you can think that a compilation title isn't proof, but I suppose its just more evidence in my favor, showing that you can't follow a logical train of thought.🙄
lol, Destroying a planet utterly in minutes > taking a ****ING WEEK for a rock to show up and crash into a town.
He didn't destroy it, we already established that. Silly nikk, when will you learn?
We've also established that making your own lifestream, something only the universe itself could do, is far more impressive than something Palmer could do.
Originally posted by fascistcrusaderContinue it here if you will: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=321873&pagenumber=1
I see you're still desperately trying to explain away you being wrong about Terra. The fact is he only nuked the surface with multiple blasts. Palmer of the ShinRa company, a fat, childish, old man, could do that with several blasts from the Sister Ray. Not very impressive if Palmer could do it.Still unwilling to accept that you're wrong I see. I don't know how you can think that a compilation title isn't proof, but I suppose its just more evidence in my favor, showing that you can't follow a logical train of thought.🙄
He didn't destroy it, we already established that. Silly nikk, when will you learn?
We've also established that making your own lifestream, something only the universe itself could do, is far more impressive than something Palmer could do.
Originally posted by SHMWhat's the difference between the normal lifestream and the negative one?
Yes, he have controll over the Negative Lifestream.