" No Terrorism in Islam "

Originally posted by Devil King
I don't justify.

The difference between pushing a button a blowing up a small town in Iraq and strapping on a vest bomb and walking into an Israeli grocery store are huge...except in intent.

Why don't they do it? Likely for teh same REason George W doesn't pick up a gun and helmet. Besides, their followers likely wouldn't want them to.

...and why is that? Because they've convinced their followers that they're somehow of greater importance.

I have a hard time believing G.W. could brainwash people, even stupid people.

Originally posted by Robtard
...and why is that? Because they've convinced their followers that they're somehow of greater importance.

I have a hard time believing G.W. could brainwash people, even stupid people.

Haha. True.

Poor George.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Imam's status, by devoting himself to Allah and Islam is already elevated

But you're right, they don't have the Martyr status.

Marthyrs are those who flew the plane, those who bombed Madrid, who killed Theo van Gogh, who call upon Death to America and their allies, those who bomb embassies and blow themselves up in attempt to kill as many kuffars as possible...

I don't argue it prompted America to go with force to Middle East (which it has), but I do believe that their ideology goes beyond caring for their lives.
Which is what makes it altogether more dangerous.

Someone who commits suicide, obviously doesn't care for their life. I agree, it does make it all that more dangerous; religious fanatics usually are just that.

Originally posted by Robtard
...and why is that? Because they've convinced their followers that they're somehow of greater importance.

I have a hard time believing G.W. could brainwash people, even stupid people.

GW doesn't have to. Nor was that really my point. If someone is brainwashed, how can you expect them to think rationally? Like, say the 20% of Americans that think GW is doing abang up job.

The two are vastly different, but you understand, I think.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And Ummah is stronger than Christians. They will support each other regardless of how extreme it might get.

That implies that every one fighting them is Christian which is bull. Maybe in their distorted vision.

But what about American Muslims, (there's about six million) are they not members of the Ummah?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That implies that every one fighting them is Christian which is bull. Maybe in their distorted vision.

But what about American Muslims, (there's about six million) are they not members of the Ummah?

I'm not sure it implies that everyone they're fighting is Christian. I think it's a result of thinking it's them against everyone not like them.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That implies that every one fighting them is Christian which is bull. Maybe in their distorted vision.

But what about American Muslims, (there's about six million) are they not members of the Ummah?

It does not imply anything of the sort.

Not to mention that I have nowhere in my post suggested that Muslims are fighting all Christians. (???)
If anything Muslims view Christians in far better light than Jews, Hindus or Buddhists.
America is not looked at as run by Christians, but by Jews, therefore many extreme Muslims do not associate America with Christians, but with Jews.
Another misconception.

What my post indicated is the strength of Islamic community compared to that of Christian.
In the time of need, Muslims will support each other more than Christians will - and moderate will support extreme because such bond is stronger.

i disagree with america paying more attention to the middle east now and the plan backfiring. assuming usama did it{oddly, its still never been proven} , it was just a golden oppurtunity for america to sieze. heck, america has been involved in the kuwait war, twice, involved in the formation of israel, involved in the israeli-egypt/middle east conflict, involved in the afghanistan war against the russians etc etc. n i dont remember THEM requiring any special act of terrorism being the trigger. whoever did the 9-11 attacks is irrelevant, america is just using it as an excuse to attack afghanistan/iraq etc while it sits back and watches israel terrosiring people in its south and the gaza strip and treating them like jailed animals, not to mention the illegal; war against lebonon where the objective was nothing less than massacre and deestruction of infrastucture.

Originally posted by Fatima
What the heck?Islam even forbid to kill war hostages let alone civillains !!I will bring some verses from Quran ..Dont worry , the scholars agreed to interpret it in one way ..especially about killing the innocents ..

Are u really 18 ??I feel you're older ...

If Mohammed had left the arabs alone like they asked him to he wouldnt have had to kill anybody. 😐

Mohammed also allowed women to get raped in battle.

He asked his companions to kill a man who insulted him.

The quran justifies smashing idols and thats what Mohammed did.

Hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Devil King

Bottom line: All religion is brainwashing.

All religion? 😒:

Originally posted by Alfheim

All religion? 😒:

Not if its willfully sought.

All religion, because secular humanism is far superior to anything a religious person might believe.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
All religion, because secular humanism is far superior to anything a religious person might believe.

It all depends on what religion you are talking about. All people have the ability to do great evil, including religious people.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
All religion, because secular humanism is far superior to anything a religious person might believe.

Ah yes. The mind of a Bright is beyond that of a blind follower who's logic is stuck in the Middle Ages. Dawkins said so.

Originally posted by Alfheim
All religion? 😒:

All organized religion.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Ah yes. The mind of a Bright is beyond that of a blind follower who's logic is stuck in the Middle Ages. Dawkins said so.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Ah yes. The mind of a Bright is beyond that of a blind follower who's logic is stuck in the Middle Ages. Dawkins said so.

Dawkins is stuck in his old midlde ages. Spare us the drama.

Originally posted by Alliance
Dawkins is stuck in his old midlde ages. Spare us the drama.

Hey! 😠

Originally posted by Devil King
All organized religion.

I thought as much. Its not like you to say all religon is brainwashing.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
All religion, because secular humanism is far superior to anything a religious person might believe.

That depends on how religon is interpreted....

Originally posted by Alliance
Dawkins is stuck in his old midlde ages. Spare us the drama.

Hahaha, ironic.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I thought as much. Its not like you to say all religon is brainwashing.

When your religion begins to lend itself to a sense of superiority, it's gone too far.