It depends where in the world Islam is followed. Here in the United States, there are very few Muslims who try to hurt people. Most of them are just trying to live thier own lives, like you and myself.
If you go to specific regions of the "third world", where poverty and violence run amok, you will ofcourse witness the ugly side of Islam.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
It depends where in the world Islam is followed. Here in the United States, there are very few Muslims who try to hurt people. Most of them are just trying to live thier own lives, like you and myself.
Because they're heavily outnumbered.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is because they have been corrupted. jk 😆
Technically, yes. According to the Koran.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I don't know about "happier", but they feel safer because there's more of their brethren.
You truly think they feel safer in the Arab Nations where the Laws are far harsher ?
I mean I don't know either, I could be wrong. I'm sure there are American bigots here in the U.S.A. who harass Muslims left and right, but nothing in our Law permits abuse of these people based on thier religion or lifestyle.
In thier nations, however, they can get thier hands cut off for stealing, and forget about women....they don't even have to try hard to be punished.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
You truly think they feel safer in the Arab Nations where the Laws are far harsher ?I mean I don't know either, I could be wrong. I'm sure there are American bigots here in the U.S.A. who harass Muslims left and right, but nothing in our Law permits abuse of these people based on thier religion or lifestyle.
In thier nations, however, they can get thier hands cut off for stealing, and forget about women....they don't even have to try hard to be punished.
I wouldn't be surprised to see women prefer to be in American or European cultures. But I suspect that many Muslims feel equally secure in Arab nations, (or at least the ones surrounded by fellow believers of their own religion).
As for theft...I suspect that people who are raised from birth to believe theft deserves the loss of a hand are far less likely to be tempted to steal. Sure there are exceptions. But I doubt that America's relative leeway toward convicts applies to most Muslims.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
You truly think they feel safer in the Arab Nations where the Laws are far harsher ?I mean I don't know either, I could be wrong. I'm sure there are American bigots here in the U.S.A. who harass Muslims left and right, but nothing in our Law permits abuse of these people based on thier religion or lifestyle.
In thier nations, however, they can get thier hands cut off for stealing, and forget about women....they don't even have to try hard to be punished.
Well the ones who lived there all their lives have nothing else to go by, so that's really all they've ever known.
My son has a few Saudi friends at WUSL, and he says they go to bars a lot, party etc. and damn near all of them sigh and say "Yes" when some one asks them if they're going home for the summer. So apparantly they consider Sharia backwards once they experience life outside it.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Well the ones who lived there all their lives have nothing else to go by, so that's really all they've ever known.My son has a few Saudi friends at WUSL, and he says they go to bars a lot, party etc. and damn near all of them sigh and say "Yes" when some one asks them if they're going home for the summer. So apparantly they consider Sharia backwards once they experience life outside it.
I think the two problems are:
1) The amount of Fear the Law puts into the minds of young men and women, basically constricting thier personal growth. (Not that they won't grow to be great and progessive people, just that thier chances to learn and open are much smaller when they are forced to be so closed and reserved).
2) The amount of racism and xenophobia they face when they live in some areas of the U.S.A. and Europe (and other nations). Ignorant people from other areas will pressure them to the point where sometimes they won't want to integrate into another society.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
It depends where in the world Islam is followed. Here in the United States, there are very few Muslims who try to hurt people. Most of them are just trying to live thier own lives, like you and myself.If you go to specific regions of the "third world", where poverty and violence run amok, you will ofcourse witness the ugly side of Islam.
Of course, but all religions can be used to motivate people for violence, especially in desperate situations.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I think the two problems are:1) The amount of Fear the Law puts into the minds of young men and women, basically constricting thier personal growth. (Not that they won't grow to be great and progessive people, just that thier chances to learn and open are much smaller when they are forced to be so closed and reserved).
2) The amount of racism and xenophobia they face when they live in some areas of the U.S.A. and Europe (and other nations). Ignorant people from other areas will pressure them to the point where sometimes they won't want to integrate into another society.
You sure about that?
Originally posted by inimalist
In America, the Muslim minority has integrated into society even more than Mexican, or in many ways, black minority groups.Europe, maybe, but in America, middle eastern immigrants do try to fit into society.
Thing is though a middle eastern immigrants isnt always the same as a "muslim", yeah they're religon islam but that doesnt mean they practice it.