imho, the big "difference" between America and "terrorists" is the deliberate targeting of civilian centers, or the use of mass murder as a tactic.
While America does kill many, many, MANY innocent people needlessly, they do so as "collateral damage". Whereas in Islamic terror, it is the specific point.
This isn't a moral distinction in my books, just one of classification.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
How do you call bombing schools, hospitals or an aspiring factory?Not saying they're the same, im just pointing out that their means of getting what they want are not that different.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Ahaha...No wait, you were serious.
Ahahahahahaha!
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Originally posted by leonheartmm
lil bitchiness has a point shaky
But she does not understand my point. America is not going after civilians because if they were, there would be no question about it.
Remember, Dresden, Tokyo, Nagasaki and Hiroshima. There was a time when America did attack civilians. The numbers of dead civilians today do not compare to the almost 1 million dead in the four cities above.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
How do you call bombing schools, hospitals or an aspirin factory?Not saying they're the same, I'm just pointing out that their means of getting what they want are not that different.
my assumption in most of those cases is that there was at least some military reason for bombing those targets.
In the case of the aspirin factory, the Americans thought, mistakenly, that it was a chemical plant. The intent was not to cripple the Sudanese (Sudanese right?) pharmaceutical industry, even though that was the outcome.
I don't think warfare is by any means more moral of an option than terrorism, nor do I think warfare is any more discriminate in its killing of civilians. Maybe there is something to be said for the motivation, but killing is killing...
Originally posted by Shakyamunisonnecessary means of evil, bith nation attaced civilian popuøated areas before they had to taste their own medecine
Remember, Dresden, Tokyo, Nagasaki and Hiroshima. There was a time when America did attack civilians. The numbers of dead civilians today do not compare to the almost 1 million dead in the four cities above
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But she does not understand my point. America is not going after civilians because if they were, there would be no question about it.Remember, Dresden, Tokyo, Nagasaki and Hiroshima. There was a time when America did attack civilians. The numbers of dead civilians today do not compare to the almost 1 million dead in the four cities above.
over 2.5 % of the population of iraq is dead officially. onofficially the numbers can be upto 10 times as high.
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the aspirin factory was in response to Al Qaeda blowing up American embassies in Africa. The other targets they hit were military targets. There was intelligence that would lead one to believe that it was a military target (although it was wrong).
lol, but of course be cynical. Its clearly evident that the Americans go out of their way to destroy civilian targets. Like how they dropped all those daisy cutters on Baghdad and killed millions of innocent civilians. Oh wait, they aren't doing that.
Originally posted by inimalist
...the aspirin factory was in response to Al Qaeda blowing up American embassies in Africa. The other targets they hit were military targets. There was intelligence that would lead one to believe that it was a military target (although it was wrong).
Maybe, maybe not I wouldnt put it past them.
Originally posted by inimalist
lol, but of course be cynical. Its clearly evident that the Americans go out of their way to destroy civilian targets. Like how they dropped all those daisy cutters on Baghdad and killed millions of innocent civilians. Oh wait, they aren't doing that.
Well I dunno man there no even there for the right reason why shouldnt I be cynical? I dont know about the individual soldiers but I dont think the people in control really give a **** wether civilians get killed or not. Hell I was under the impression that people were tortured by the Americans and some of these people were civilains. I dunno man I kinda got the impression that they werent really making an effort to distnguish between citizens and combatants. Hell I was under the impression that America has caused alot of chaos in South America as well.