Originally posted by Newjak
Which once again brings me to my actual question regarding Desaad.We know new Gods can teleport things through dimensions and Galaxies and all that fun stuff. What prevents Desaad completely on his own from bringing in in level herald stuff?
Although I would like to ask what exactly is the level limit for tech? because pretty much everything involving the New Gods is just flat out over this level.
And if it is yes then all I can say is someone draft Tony Stark use his prep area to become Ironman.
Because he can only use his equipment once as stipulated in the rules. He can't boomtube to his base from the other prep areas. You only have access to any given prep area once per round.
And there's no limit on ingenuity during prep. Otherwise prep would be useless.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Because he can only use his equipment once as stipulated in the rules. He can't boomtube to his base from the other prep areas. You only have access to any given prep area once per round.And there's no limit on ingenuity during prep. Otherwise prep would be useless.
Originally posted by grey fox
I'm pretty sure that Ill made a 'no genius' and 'no future tech' rule. Otherwise we'd be drafting Leader ect.
Originally posted by grey fox
I'm pretty sure that Ill made a 'no genius' and 'no future tech' rule. Otherwise we'd be drafting Leader ect.
There are no such rules, Fox. No limitations on that but 10 minutes of prep with amalgamation also happening during that time is set as limitation.
The only limits are "no organic matter manip tech and no time manip tech".
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlGive small kid a bunch of Apokolips weapons and have him fight against some grown men and see how much it matters 😛
Desaad can take a radio and pwn a city with it. Trust me I know. No need to get all scared of the tech when Desaad invents all of the tech. It's the man, not the tech that counts.
And Desaad can only invent his Apokolips tech if you know he has the materials and power sources from Apokolips to work with.
And like I said Desaad also has adirect link to his prep site and his power level. So once again can someone draft Tony Stark and get Ironman because of prep.
How about John Henry Irons to get Steel in prep.
It's directly proportional and I would like to know what levels we can work with in prep areas and what level we can bring in?
Originally posted by Newjak
Give small kid a bunch of Apokolips weapons and have him fight against some grown men and see how much it matters 😛And Desaad can only invent his Apokolips tech if you know he has the materials and power sources from Apokolips to work with.
And like I said Desaad also has adirect link to his prep site and his power level. So once again can someone draft Tony Stark and get Ironman because of prep.
How about John Henry Irons to get Steel in prep.
It's directly proportional and I would like to know what levels we can work with in prep areas and what level we can bring in?
Um, since when did it say that Desaad needed apok materials or power sources for his tech? ha ha ha. That is what you think? 😆 😆 😆 I can show desaad creating tech using 20th resources. But of course, you know, I won't be doing that. 😛
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlTo build his bigger and better machines he does 313
Um, since when did it say that Desaad needed apok materials or power sources for his tech? ha ha ha. That is what you think? 😆 😆 😆 I can show desaad creating tech using 20th resources. But of course, you know, I won't be doing that. 😛
And since he has access to his prep site then he does get those bigger and better machines.
Which once again leads me back to the same questions. I mean if you can draft someone who will gain the ability to level cities I definitly want to know what that limit is?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I cannot find the rules. But I'm almost sure that Midnighter is a genius. And so is Spiderman.
Midnighter and Spiderman are not genius level chars, at least Midnighter. Tactic genius=/=planet-busting tech. Midnighter is only smart in terms of combat.
You're just insulted Desaad🙂 But anyways, it's the king sized loophole🙂
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Midnighter and Spiderman are not genius level chars, at least Midnighter. Tactic genius=/=planet-busting tech. Midnighter is only smart in terms of combat.You're just insulted Desaad🙂
Originally posted by illadelph12But what exactly is Desaad's standard equipment. He spends most of his time in his lab. He obviously carries some of his stuff at all times and this leads me back to the Teleportation question. Doesn't he have the means to always have it one. And he obviously reaches any non standard equipment levle through the use of his prep site. I mean as soon as he goes there it obvious he isn't standard(Whatever that is) Desaad.
Desaad is legal.Ironman and Steel would be illegal because their armors are standard equipment. An alter ego doesn't change that. I couldn't draft Clark Kent and not have Superman. Flawed argument.
I'm going to watch football.
What is Desaad's base level exactly?
Next you didn't answer my other questions Ill.
What level of tech are we allowed to work with and bring unto the battlefield?
Originally posted by Newjak
To build his bigger and better machines he does 313And since he has access to his prep site then he does get those bigger and better machines.
Which once again leads me back to the same questions. I mean if you can draft someone who will gain the ability to level cities I definitly want to know what that limit is?
Originally posted by illadelph12That wasn't the point that he had to boomtube to his lab. The question was couldn't he boomtube his equipment to him.
Because he can only use his equipment once as stipulated in the rules. He can't boomtube to his base from the other prep areas. You only have access to any given prep area once per round.And there's no limit on ingenuity during prep. Otherwise prep would be useless.
And I thought there was no limit on power meshing in prep. Its obvious that Desaad himself goes over the limits once he steps into his prep area and uses it without outside help.
Now I'm not trying to argue I just want to get certain concrete on what is going to be happening and exactly what a standard Desaad is?
Originally posted by Newjak
That wasn't the point that he had to boomtube to his lab. The question was couldn't he boomtube his equipment to him.And I thought there was no limit on power meshing in prep. Its obvious that Desaad himself goes over the limits once he steps into his prep area.
Now I'm not trying to argue I just want to get certain concrete on what is going to be happening and exactly what a standard Desaad is?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Spiderman was always a genius. How else could a teenaged kid invent those web shooters?
Genius in some branch, yes. Just like Emma Frost- she invented pretty good tech to amplify\direct psionic powers and her tech in that regard was even better than Xavier's, but when you mention genius level X-Men her name isn't in the top of the list.
There are no limits on non-standart equipment tech, as long as it's not matter manipulation\time manipulation stuff. Desaad is actually a loophole there since he can get pretty much high level tech in 10 minutes.
In fact there was an idea with Amadeus Cho etc.
Desaad is the "smith" of Darkseid, that's all. There atre no discussion of "Desaad&his android bodyguards".