Illadelph's Multi Genre Team Tournament Confirmation Thread

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'm honestly more concerned about Synch.

# Ability to duplicate superpowered beings powers
# Ability to have full awareness and mastery in the utilization of any powers duplicated
# Metabolize bio-energy signatures
# Sense and track superpowered being

That could describe Amazo.

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Shouldn't that just be banned outright by the rules? We shouldn't even need to do the voting ban thing.

None of that is banned. Unlike Amazo, Synch does NOT retain the powers he absorbs infinitely. I assume Amazo is banned because right now he has the powers entire JLA. I'm sorry, but power-copying itself was not banned. Neither was knowledge. And he can only duplicate the powers of mutants, and it doesn't affect the mutants itself in any way. He's within the limits.

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About Sage, she can't use her TP offensively. I'm pretty sure having a TP immunity doesn't put her over the caps. But if the judges indeed deem that she has something that isn't legal there, we have replacements for her. She's not crucial to any of our plans. But there is a bit of confusion what that telepathy rule contains, maybe Ill could clear that out...he already OK'd Sage beforehand, though, but still.

About Jubilee...COME ON. Are you just going to ban every clever idea we have or what? "Quickly! It is an idea we did not think of! To the Trickstermobile!"

About Dupli-Kate. Multiplying is not banned. Next time, read the rules a bit more closely, and don't complain about something that you didn't think of. I'm sure that you have a surprise there with Joker, but I'm not trying to ban it just because I didn't think of it first.

I've already put up my vote against any power that can copy or fulfill someone's potential.

Who's Smurfs real choice?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
None of that is banned. Unlike Amazo, Synch does NOT retain the powers he absorbs infinitely. I assume Amazo is banned because right now he has the powers entire JLA. I'm sorry, but power-copying itself was not banned. Neither was knowledge. And he can only duplicate the powers of mutants, and it doesn't affect the mutants itself in any way. He's within the limits.

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About Sage, she can't use her TP offensively. I'm pretty sure having a TP immunity doesn't put her over the caps. But if the judges indeed deem that she has something that isn't legal there, we have replacements for her. She's not crucial to any of our plans. But there is a bit of confusion what that telepathy rule contains, maybe Ill could clear that out...he already OK'd Sage beforehand, though, but still.

About Jubilee...COME ON. Are you just going to ban every clever idea we have or what? "Quickly! It is an idea we did not think of! To the Trickstermobile!"

About Dupli-Kate. Multiplying is not banned. Next time, read the rules a bit more closely, and don't complain about something that you didn't think of. I'm sure that you have a surprise there with Joker, but I'm not trying to ban it just because I didn't think of it first.

She can't use it offencivly due to self-imposed mental block, but if Synch copies her powers, he'll copy them WITHOUT block (as he did with Emma's latent TK Emma herself wasn't aware of).

And Trickster sometimes overdoes it, it's true. And I have no problems with Synch-Jubilee-Sage combo, it's the stuff I took into account.
Synch-Sage is worrying just because it's legal access to banned ability (Synch can copy powers past mental blocks).
Sage by herself is not a reason for any worries.

Synch should be banned just because of his 'full potential' shtick. Considering that most mutants 'Full potential' is usually WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over 'Low Meta'.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
And Trickster sometimes overdoes it, it's true. And I have no problems with Synch-Jubilee-Sage combo, it's the stuff I took into account.
Synch-Sage is worrying just because it's legal access to banned ability (Synch can copy powers past mental blocks).
Sage by herself is not a reason for any worries.

Originally posted by grey fox
Synch should be banned just because of his 'full potential' shtick. Considering that most mutants 'Full potential' is usually WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over 'Low Meta'.

Not if we really can't prove what their full potential is.

Shit, whose full potential actually HAS been shown? Iceman? Jean Grey? Kid Omega? Elixir?

You see us ever having a mutant whose full potential has been shown in this tournament?

And again, there is no limit in amalgams. Alone, Synch is useless. Combined with someone else, he is pretty good.

I'm actually quite surprised nobody else thought of this.

Well, her bio states that she could before she put a mental block turning her TP passive for defence mode.
It's like a person had weapon that's normally used as sword but she uses it as shield. But- if other person gets that weapon, he'd be using it as shield.
For Synch it would be even easier than getting access to Emma's latent TK.

I can show you Emma tapping into Jubilee's full potential by using Synch as proxy:

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
[b]Phalanx

Emma psychically makes herself and her team invisible from the passing bystanders. She also shows Jubilee her potential by allowing her(Sync) to detonate matter on a sub atomic level.

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Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Well, her bio states that she could before she put a mental block turning her TP passive for defence mode.
It's like a person had weapon that's normally used as sword but she uses it as shield. But- if other person gets that weapon, he'd be using it as shield.
For Synch it would be even easier than getting access to Emma's latent TK.

I can show you Emma tapping into Jubilee's full potential by using Synch as proxy:

Adding into the fact that Phoenix pretty much said 'The end result of every mutant is Me' the judges should be able to understand our wish for banhammerage.

I'm against Sage for reason that while she by herself has mental block on banned ability, their team also have means to sort of remove it during preptime- and it's not "tapping into potential" that worries me, since there were no caps on meshing, but basically cheating against the rules.
Once again, self imposed mental blocks\latent abilities can be easily copied by Synch. In the following case, Emma was unaware of her latent TK herself.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
[b]Synch, Emma and Telekinesis

Synch, synchs with Emma's powers and uses her Psi-powers to delve into everyones minds and blow up the objects on his side table and then levitate everyone in the room.

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Synch also can use his powers at significant distance- in that case for tracking mutants remotely. It can be used for detection quite easily (though it's no reason to ban him but just to see that person with whom he's going to "synch" not nesessary should be visible to him (Generation X#6)

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Well, her bio states that she could before she put a mental block turning her TP passive for defence mode.
It's like a person had weapon that's normally used as sword but she uses it as shield. But- if other person gets that weapon, he'd be using it as shield.
For Synch it would be even easier than getting access to Emma's latent TK.

I can show you Emma tapping into Jubilee's full potential by using Synch as proxy:

And once again just for sake of information since I don't have anything against Synch directly. The mutant doesn't need to have regular physiology for Synch to synch with him. Synching with Chamber (Generation X #8).

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
She can't use it offencivly due to self-imposed mental block, but if Synch copies her powers, he'll copy them WITHOUT block (as he did with Emma's latent TK Emma herself wasn't aware of).

Have you not read a word of what Mr. Judge man (Soljer) has said?

OFFENSIVE TP IS BANNED. NOT TP USERS. No matter what I do, I will not have TP for you to worry about. All the TP we have (which is pretty low in its own right) is passive, K?

Also, Trick: Do you really think you are going to lose THAT bad that you have to try and ban everyone not on your team? People have smart (legal) ideas, get off it if you didnt think of it first.

I think DC has talked about Synch enough (because really he is NOT over the limit.) that I wont need to.

So thats Sage and Synch.

Now we go on Dupli-Kate (and Multiple Man):
At first Delph was iffy about the whole duplication issue, but then he created the rules to accommodate a pretty good compromise FOR EVERYONE. Seeing as only three constructs/duplicates are allowed (and the rules were issued before the picks were made), you guys should have either realized that they were allowed or picked someone that could create low level constructs for you. Dont ban Dupli-Kate (or Multiple Man) for your lack of reading comprehension.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
you guys should have either realized that they were allowed or picked someone that could create low level constructs for you. Dont ban Dupli-Kate (or Multiple Man) for your lack of reading comprehension.

OK. So I drop my concerns about Sage. She uses her TP for communication purposes when she uses it actively for the majority of her showings. But Ill's voice it's what I'm going to hear before making decision.
I didn't voice against Multiple Man and Dupli-Kate. The tricky thing is that sometimes Multiple Man's dupes are shown to have their own will which might be quite different from the original Madrox' will. But if rules count it as constructs, it's OK. Basically constructs is something that isn't fully sentient...

Trickster himself has an over-the-limit guy (Jotaro), whose stance is indestructable (and nobody there has knowledge of him- I mean chars, not participants, as database still plays an important role).
There are only two chars who can detect that- Kira&probably Black Knight (not sure about Seras or Walter, have to ask Akuki and\or Grey Fox).

Is Klaw banned? I think he should be if hes not.

Originally posted by King Kandy
That's the problem. Even if we did, we'd only be able to make three low level constructs... They'd be able to make three that are equal to the original amalgam.

Don't worry, darling. Though the idea of 4 Iron Fists with Quicksilver speed (further amped by chi after amalgamation sduring prep time at least tenfold) is scary as hell, it's bearable.

Klaw was dropped by our team long ago. We picked Spot instead.