Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um no, Synch can copy ALL mutants near him. As shown when he went coo coo and all the gen xers and emma frost couldn't really put him down. He's Peter Petrelli on steriods. But I'm inclined to say he's a smart choice. I dont' like it, but he isn't amazo.
And I don't have any objections against Synch.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
But AFAIR Synch can't copy powers from more than one mutant at once so he's fine.
...this was never told to me even when I specifically asked, nor did I see it in the bio. It would've saved a lot of trouble, since my problem was stacking the powers of multiple mutants at once.
Originally posted by DigiMark007Yes, it is a faulty argument to say that Synch by himself can amp to be greater than spiderman.
Neither does base Amazo, who we've considered at this point. It's a faulty argument, and you'll hear from me again when you amp Synch (by himself, sans amalgamation) to >>> Spider-Man.
You have proof of this claim that Synch by himself can amp himself to above spiderman levels?
If you want I can post the scans where he was beaten into a coma by two street thugs who didn't even have any superpowers...
Announcement:
I should be posting the Tourney Schedule and Week's 1 through 4 Battlefields this evening. Due to the number of teams (7) I'm adopting a specialized format for this tournament (similar to the format of an NBA Conference). There will be 3 battles each week.
Essentially, as I stated in the first post of this thread, each team will face every other team in this tournament once in the first round, so each team will have 6 first round matches and 1 "Bye Week" (and each team will have a chance at revenge for all this confirmation mellodrama).
In Round 1, due to the unequal team constraints, you will not be able to add a member of your beaten opponents roster to your own. That will have to wait until the following semifinal Round, which will be a best of 3 playoff (each semifinalist team must defeat their opponent twice). Each match will have 3 judges, and each judge vote is worth a point. The number of points accumulated in Round 1 will determine seeding in Round 2. Any ties will be resolved via the tiebreaker (which team defeated the other in their match). The top 4 teams will advance to the semifinals
In Round 2, the 1st Seed will face the 4th Seed and the 2nd Seed will face the 3rd seed. This round will be in a best of three format. You will have to defeat your opponent twice to advance to the Finals. Also, in this round, you will be able to add 2 (two) members of your defeated opponent's roster, rather than 1 (one), to your team, when you advance to the Finals (to make up for the lack of this ability from the prior round). Also, the two losing teams in this round will advance to a Bronze Metal Final match (which I will detail below).
Round 3, the Finals; will also be in a best of three format for both the Tourney Championship match as well as the Bronze Metal match. The bronze medalist will be able to add 1 (one) character to their roster from any the defeated teams which did not make it out of the Round 1.
Battlefield:
Each week will have a specific default battlefield that all scheduled matches will take place within rather than having each battle take place in a different environment. This is to try to eliminate any sort of competitive disadvantages that a particular battlefield may provide to one team over another any given week. You will all have knowledge of each battlefield for the entirety of the First Round by the end of this week, as well as a schedule of all of your first round battles, to allow you all to plan ahead as necessary and all begin on an equal playing field. I'll create an Excel spreadsheet, upload it to Yousend it, and post it for all of you to access it. I actually should be able to have that ready this evening.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Yes, it is a faulty argument to say that Synch by himself can amp to be greater than spiderman.You have proof of this claim that Synch by himself can amp himself to above spiderman levels?
If you want I can post the scans where he was beaten into a coma by two street thugs who didn't even have any superpowers...
We've been going around in circles about this for a while. We're obviously in disagreement and if you can't see my argument by now, it won't happen, so I'm dropping my case against him. When Synch amps himself past Spider-Man without amalgamating with someone else in one of the battles (which is going to happen, given Blair/DC's ingenuity), we'll talk again.
We may even need to draft one of our own, since it's being allowed. Not my first choice, but a necessary evil it seems.
Cresh and Digi, I respect both of you, but could you both please let this one go. No need to let it get this far. Power copying is allowed due to:
A) No ability that is available in this tournament, presumably, being over the low meta level cap of this tournament.
B) The added abilities falling under meshing, for which there is no cap.
Now, as for Amazo, are his base attributes, without additional powers from other super humans, in the low meta tier? He is an android after all and has a base level of superhuman attributes. If he, at base, is in fact low meta, he would be within the bounds of the rules, regardless of being capable of copying beings that are beyond the caps (as they would not be available to him to copy).
Also remember that the only thing that carries over from round to round is battle experience and memories. No other implements, be they technological or abilities gleaned during combat, will carry over to the following round. In each round all characters start out at base attributes.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Cresh and Digi, I respect both of you, but could you both please let this one go. No need to let it get this far. Power copying is allowed due to:A) No ability that is available in this tournament, presumably, being over the low meta level cap of this tournament.
B) The added abilities falling under meshing, for which there is no cap.
Now, as for Amazo, are his base attributes, without additional powers from other super humans, in the low meta tier? He is an android after all and has a base level of superhuman attributes. If he, at base, is in fact low meta, he would be within the bounds of the rules, regardless of being capable of copying beings that are beyond the caps (as they would not be available to him to copy).
Also remember that the only thing that carries over from round to round is battle experience and memories. No other implements, be they technological or abilities gleaned during combat, will carry over to the following round. In each round all characters start out at base attributes.
I would shit holy bricks if Amazo was allowed. Thank goodness he starts out with ALL the powers of the JLA and is indestructible.
Originally posted by DigiMark007Yes because you keep saying that Synch by himself breaks the caps with not only no proof, but the idea goes against the characters very definition. He's called synch for a reason. He Synchronizes with other mutants powers. On his own he has no offensive or defensive capabilities. If you choose to ignore his character definition and history it'd be no different than saying that any other character in the tournament breaks the caps because they on their own can amp themselves to levels beyond the cap. He doesn't have the ability to generate new powers, nor can he on his own exceed the caps.
We've been going around in circles about this for a while.
Originally posted by DigiMark007And you'll see that he will require another person present as he won't be able to spontaneously generate powers for himself. He's not proteus or pre-crisis superman. It's not within his powerset to be able to do anything by himself other than generate a rainbow aura around himself and find other mutants within his range.
We're obviously in disagreement and if you can't see my argument by now, it won't happen, so I'm dropping my case against him. When Synch amps himself past Spider-Man without amalgamating with someone else in one of the battles (which is going to happen, given Blair/DC's ingenuity), we'll talk again.
Originally posted by DigiMark007You keep saying things like that and all they are are little digs at a premise you don't agree with. And since you don't agree with it it must be evil when you still haven't proven your case.
We may even need to draft one of our own, since it's being allowed. Not my first choice, but a necessary evil it seems.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
He synches with other mutants to gain their powers, yes. And he needs to be on certain proximity to have their powers (they don't just stay on him permanently).
I"m starting to think Synch will be an Amalgam without actually having to amalgamate. I can see digi's concern. Still a smart move. One that i must study to see what can be done about him. I'm still not voting against him... yet. Smart moves make for good tourneys.