Illadelph's Multi Genre Team Tournament Confirmation Thread

Started by DarkCrawler153 pages

Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
I don't think Shinobi Shaw should be in this.

He's essentially Shadowcat meets Emma Frost.

And that makes him above caps how?

Intangibility wasn't banned. Neither was density manipulation.

And NO, he is NOT as formidable as Vision, not ANYWHERE near it.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yeah. So did Spider-Man.

Did I also mention that he beat Firelord?

Oh, and he beat Iron Man 2099 to bloody mess of scrap metal?

Or did I mention how he was about to take down Eric Masterson if he had not used lightning?

Or how he knocked down Class 80 Rhino, just by punching him until he fell?

Maybe I should tell you about the time he went against Prince Namor.

Should I mention his fights with Hulk?

Or Doctor Strange? Quasar?

How he went toe to toe against Fantastic Four and held his own?

How he defeated Man-Thing?

Knocked out D'Spayre?

She-Hulk? Silver Surfer? X-Man? The entire X-Men Classic Team? Absorbing Man? Blackheart? Crimson Dynamo? Digger? Doctor Doom? Dragon Man? Juggernaut?

Spider-Man is the milestone here, and I can assure you, when it comes to battle formidability, Darkhawk is NOT above Spider-Man. Some people do seem to underestimate him. It was the same thing with the last tournament I was in. Thanos was the milestone and most thought he was just one step above Surfer. He isn't.

There is a link under my sig, concerning Spider-Man. I suggest you to take a look at it.

I already have. I regally look at it.

Just pointing out something.

Sorry if I came off strong. That wasn't really directed at you personally, but to everyone participating here.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
And that makes him above caps how?

Intangibility wasn't banned. Neither was density manipulation.

And NO, he is NOT as formidable as Vision, not ANYWHERE near it.

Because he can't be BFR'd, can simply go intangible and induce a heart attack, or turn diamond solid.

Shinobi nearly killed his father Sebastian with one heart strike.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Sorry if I came off strong. That wasn't really directed at you personally, but to everyone participating here.
No problem....Devourer! 😱

😛

So, is Savage Dragon out? 😬

Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
Because he can't be BFR'd, can simply go intangible and induce a heart attack, or turn diamond solid.

So he apparently can't be BFR'd. That protects him from one tactic. Don't see how that makes him bannable. Sebastian Shaw can't be beaten by physical force. Should we ban him?

Yeah, he can go intangible and induce a heart attack. That again, is an avoidable attack. If you go that route, ANYONE here has an OHKO. You can have Karnak hit any weak point in me to induce a heart attack, or just take me down with one blow, if I am dumb enough to stand there and not do anything to it. Should he be banned?

Turn diamond solid? How again, is that bannable? I don't see it being on the rules. Being durable isn't a reason for banning. He can still be killed by multitude of different ways.

Our picks are, like I said, perfectly valid.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Shinobi nearly killed his father Sebastian with one heart strike.

Yeah, and Venom could have killed him with snapping his neck. Or Midnighter could have strangled him. Joker could have sprayed acid on him.

What is your point?

Me, you, akuki, fox, I'd say we got enough people to throw dragon out.

I think this should be shown: Has all his skin blown of from a big explosion and seems to be OK considering, he then goes back to the fight and wins if I rememeber.

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Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So he apparently can't be BFR'd. That protects him from one tactic. Don't see how that makes him bannable. Sebastian Shaw can't be beaten by physical force. Should we ban him?

Yeah, he can go intangible and induce a heart attack. That again, is an avoidable attack. If you go that route, ANYONE here has an OHKO. You can have Karnak hit any weak point in me to induce a heart attack, or just take me down with one blow, if I am dumb enough to stand there and not do anything to it. Should he be banned?

Turn diamond solid? How again, is that bannable? I don't see it being on the rules. Being durable isn't a reason for banning. He can still be killed by multitude of different ways.

Our picks are, like I said, perfectly valid.

Question: Can Spider-Man beat him, or do well against him?

Originally posted by B.A
I think this should be shown: Has all his skin blown of from a big explosion and seems to be OK considering, he then goes back to the fight and wins if I rememeber.

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Looks like he escaped the big ass explosion...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So he apparently can't be BFR'd. That protects him from one tactic. Don't see how that makes him bannable. Sebastian Shaw can't be beaten by physical force. Should we ban him?

Yeah, he can go intangible and induce a heart attack. That again, is an avoidable attack. If you go that route, ANYONE here has an OHKO. You can have Karnak hit any weak point in me to induce a heart attack, or just take me down with one blow, if I am dumb enough to stand there and not do anything to it. Should he be banned?

Turn diamond solid? How again, is that bannable? I don't see it being on the rules. Being durable isn't a reason for banning. He can still be killed by multitude of different ways.

Our picks are, like I said, perfectly valid.

Going "that's only ONE tactic!!1!" to each point means eventually you've got a lot more than one tactic.

Most in here can be BFR'd. Shinobi can't.

Most can be beaten physically. Shinobi can't.

Most OHKO's are only delivered with some danger to the person delivering them. Shinobi's isn't.

I'm against Shaw simply because phasing shouldn't be something we have to worry about at LOW-META.

Originally posted by Bransolute
Looks like he escaped the big ass explosion...

Not really. Theres another part right by it I believe. Coming up.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm against Shaw simply because phasing shouldn't be something we have to worry about at LOW-META.

Agreed.

Hell do any of us have anything to counter phasing ?

Originally posted by B.A
I think this should be shown: Has all his skin blown of from a big explosion and seems to be OK considering, he then goes back to the fight and wins if I rememeber.

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Read the first bit.

Originally posted by grey fox
Agreed.

Hell do any of us have anything to counter phasing ?

We asked about phasers, and were told it was ok 🙂

Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
Going "that's only ONE tactic!!1!" to each point means eventually you've got a lot more than one tactic.

Ah, so we can't have characters who can't be taken out by different tactics, as long as they are under the caps?

One is the limit?

Funny, I didn't see such rule.

Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
Most in here can be BFR'd. Shinobi can't.

And again, that makes him bannable how?

I don't see a rule that would say "Your character MUST be vunerable to BFRing". Do you?

Seriously, how is having a character who is prepared against multiple ways of attacking AGAINST the rules? 🤨

Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
Most can be beaten physically. Shinobi can't.

That is because he is a smart pick who happens to be under the caps too.

Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
Most OHKO's are only delivered with some danger to the person delivering them. Shinobi's isn't.

So walking right next to someone doesn't pose a danger?

Yeah, he is intangible. So what? There are dozen ways of taking down an intangible person, we should not neuter our characters just because you didn't prepare for the possibility of encountering one.

And no, it's not an OHKO. It can be easily avoided. It's no different then Quicksilver coming at superspeed at you and driving a sword through your organs.

Hey, what if there was a team that didn't prep against potential superpeed attack? Should Quicksilver be banned?

Originally posted by grey fox
Agreed.

Hell do any of us have anything to counter phasing ?

Some of us might.