This shit is insane.
Kurse in this scenario is four times stronger than Thor.
Superman is a 100 in strength, Thor is at least a 90.
SBP is strong, but 4 times the strength of someone close to Superman in strength?
Really?
Not going by his showings.
He punched Teth, and knocked him off planet, where he then teleported out.
He wasn't koed.
He then attacked a planet full of top tiers in SC Presents, but then again, it was all inconclusive........other than the fact that he held MM captive.
SBP is stronger than the top tier sure, but 4 times stronger? That was never presented ON PANEL!!
And the latest SBP feats are nice, but the biggest thing he did, was something BRB did, and Stardust did.
A hella nice feat, but not above the top tier.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Proof?When did a weak SBP take on just a Superman at his best?
When did the two slug it out?
When did they arm-wrestle?
Prove weakened SBP is phsycially stronger than Superman.
rEAD SC. He fought superman, supergirl and powergirl at their best while weakened. Then the sun came up and he pwned them all.
Originally posted by UniOmni
This shit is insane.Kurse in this scenario is four times stronger than Thor.
Superman is a 100 in strength, Thor is at least a 90.
SBP is strong, but 4 times the strength of someone close to Superman in strength?
Really?
Not going by his showings.
He punched Teth, and knocked him off planet, where he then teleported out.
He wasn't koed.He then attacked a planet full of top tiers in SC Presents, but then again, it was all inconclusive........other than the fact that he held MM captive.
SBP is stronger than the top tier sure, but 4 times stronger? That was never presented ON PANEL!!
And the latest SBP feats are nice, but the biggest thing he did, was something BRB did, and Stardust did.
A hella nice feat, but not above the top tier.
Oh, so they pushed a planet accross interstellar distances without the inhabitants noticing and retconned an entire franchise? Really?
Originally posted by Val
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Originally posted by Sirius77
Oh, so they pushed a planet accross interstellar distances without the inhabitants noticing and retconned an entire franchise? Really?
Nice feats to pad out a resume, but it never factored into his fights thus far.
That's what you don't get.
SBP is stronger than the top tier, as i've already admitted.
He just never came across as FOUR TIMES STRONGER THAN THE TOP TIER!..
That's who he's armwrestling. A guy four times stronger than Thor.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Nice feats to pad out a resume, but it never factored into his fights thus far.That's what you don't get.
SBP is stronger than the top tier, as i've already admitted.
He just never came across as FOUR TIMES STRONGER THAN THE TOP TIER!..
That's who he's armwrestling. A guy four times stronger than Thor.
Since when has kurse pushed, or even busted a planet? I think that you're missing my point.
Originally posted by Sirius77
Since when has kurse pushed, or even busted a planet? I think that you're missing my point.
I can't continually argue with someone so S&^%&d.
Why does it matter, when he's yet to clearly ko a top tier with those feats under his belt?
You're being bullheaded with this requirement for planet pushing.
Kurse doesn't fly.
And the planet busting you're hyping, has been done by Grey Hulk, Stardust, and BRB.
Riddle me this......
Terrax busted a planet with pure strength.
No flying through it as numerous others have done.....(SBP included)
Just cut off the power to the axe before killing the Parasite, and then swung and busted the planet.
He's shown to be stronger than SBP.
As is Gladiator, since he did it in three punched.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I can't continually argue with someone so S&^%&d.Why does it matter, when he's yet to clearly ko a top tier with those feats under his belt?
You're being bullheaded with this requirement for planet pushing.
Kurse doesn't fly.
And the planet busting you're hyping, has been done by Grey Hulk, Stardust, and BRB.
Riddle me this......
Terrax busted a planet with pure strength.
No flying through it as numerous others have done.....(SBP included)
Just cut off the power to the axe before killing the Parasite, and then swung and busted the planet.
He's shown to be stronger than SBP.
As is Gladiator, since he did it in three punched.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I can't continually argue with someone so S&^%&d.Why does it matter, when he's yet to clearly ko a top tier with those feats under his belt?
You're being bullheaded with this requirement for planet pushing.
Kurse doesn't fly.
And the planet busting you're hyping, has been done by Grey Hulk, Stardust, and BRB.
Riddle me this......
Terrax busted a planet with pure strength.
No flying through it as numerous others have done.....(SBP included)
Just cut off the power to the axe before killing the Parasite, and then swung and busted the planet.
He's shown to be stronger than SBP.
As is Gladiator, since he did it in three punched.
The planet busting feat was a generalization.
Superman has been shown to be alot stronger than thor, and sbp has been shown to be ALOT stronger than superman. Think about it. BA matches superman in strength, he released an all out attack on sbp, and he didn't even flinch, all ba got in return was a pimpslap back to his dimension. He took out thirty gls, and smashed through a forty mile thick wall of gl energy and it only "slowed him down" Thus far he has punched his way through two dimensions and taken out the great majority of the top tiers in the dcu in one comic, some while weakened.
So, yes, seeing as some of the people that sbp took out were thor level, and he fought three above thor level at one time while weakened, I'd say without a doubt that he is over four times stronger than thor by far.
SBP also Punches so hard that he retcons
So if SBP just punched randomly as hard as he could, it would retcon something?
He needs something to hit.
He was handling Three kryptonians while depowered.
And all those Kryptonians were hitting him as hard as they could?
And SBP overpowered him with just physical strength?
No?
Kay.
And when SBP killed E2 Supes, it was an insane teenager vs. an old man with no superpowers. They never had a real fight besides that as far as I know.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, Terrax didn't bust any planet with pure strength. Where in the hell did you get that theory? 😆 He used his ax and it's well know that Terrax also commands earth as well. SBP also Punches so hard that he retcons. It's clear he is more than 4 times stronger than thor. He was handling Three kryptonians while depowered. He handled Earth two Superman and earth prime while weakened. And your tryign to say that becuz SBP hasn't beaten anyone 4 times stronger than Thor says he isn't? when has thanos physically beaten anyone 4 times as strong as thor? But we know thanos is clearly stronger than that.
First.
Terrax does control rock.
But in this case, he merely swung his axe, and the planet exploded.
What does that imply?
No expounding on his control of rock via the PC. He swung, and boom went the planet.
Next.
SBP punches so hard he retcons when he's got a magical wall to punch.
And he might have been intended to be 4 times the strength of the top tier.
He's just never shown that kind of power while actually fighting top tiers.
And i never said SBP has to beat someone 4 times stronger than Thor.
I just wanna see him ko one top tier. Just one.
And Thanos isn't 4 times stronger than Thor.
Two times, possibly, but not four times.
He's not beating someone 4 times the strength of Thor, going off his showings so far.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
So if SBP just punched randomly as hard as he could, it would retcon something?He needs something to hit.
And all those Kryptonians were hitting him as hard as they could?
And SBP overpowered him with just physical strength?
No?
Kay.
And when SBP killed E2 Supes, it was an insane teenager vs. an old man with no superpowers. They never had a real fight besides that as far as I know.
Thier powers didn't immediately Fade. And He needs something to hit yes. He retconned BB with a hit. He also punched his way out of the speed force and the phantom zone. He's far stronger than Curse. It's rediculous to think that a being only 4 times stronger than Thor would be such a bother to the DCU.
Originally posted by UniOmni
First.Terrax does control rock.
But in this case, he merely swung his axe, and the planet exploded.
What does that imply?No expounding on his control of rock via the PC. He swung, and boom went the planet.
Next.
SBP punches so hard he retcons when he's got a magical wall to punch.
And he might have been intended to be 4 times the strength of the top tier.
He's just never shown that kind of power while actually fighting top tiers.
And i never said SBP has to beat someone 4 times stronger than Thor.
I just wanna see him ko one top tier. Just one.
And Thanos isn't 4 times stronger than Thor.
Two times, possibly, but not four times.
He's not beating someone 4 times the strength of Thor, going off his showings so far.
First of all, you have your info wrong. Terrax didn't punch one Planet. he swung his ax on a very small planet. The Ax is made by galactus. You can see energy when the ax hits the planet. Not a strength feat.
Two Thanos is by far more than Two times stronger than Thor. Or he wouldn't be able to hand out pimp smacks to the Hulk or hang with WM Thor.
And You show me anyone being 4 times stronger than Thor being able to handle all of earth. Hell despero is prolly 4 times or more stronger than Superman. And he sure as hell ain't stronger than SBP.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thier powers didn't immediately Fade. And He needs something to hit yes. He retconned BB with a hit. He also punched his way out of the speed force and the phantom zone. He's far stronger than Curse. It's rediculous to think that a being only 4 times stronger than Thor would be such a bother to the DCU.
But yet, he hasn't koed a top tier yet.
Kurse handled both BRB and Thor together.
He's got better lifting feats than Kurse, surely.
But battle feats(the ones that actually show how characters REALLY stack), he doesn't approach.
Superman has been shown to be alot stronger than thor
Somewhat stronger.
Not 2x.
and sbp has been shown to be ALOT stronger than superman.
There has never been SBP vs. Superman in an arm-wrestle or slugging match with both at their best.
Is he stronger than Supes? Yes. But the degree is a complete unknown and can only be gussed at.
Think about it. BA matches superman in strength
Do you mean Cap Marvel?
He took out thirty gls, and smashed through a forty mile thick wall of gl energy and it only "slowed him down
A. The GLs weren't even using lethal force to begin with until he was already ripping them to bits.
B.I don't put this feat out of regular Supes' capability.
So, yes, seeing as some of the people that sbp took out were thor level, and he fought three above thor level at one time while weakened, I'd say without a doubt that he is over four times stronger than thor by far.
Who did he take out that were Thor level in strength?
He didnt' even KO Supes or Supergirl.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
So if SBP just punched randomly as hard as he could, it would retcon something?He needs something to hit.
Actually, there was a comic where he wasa fighting either the titans or the outsiders or something like that, and every time he would hit one of them they would get retconned...
But regardless, I doubt that it would be easy to punch through a wall holding the entire dcu anyway, so what is your point?
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
And all those Kryptonians were hitting him as hard as they could?And SBP overpowered him with just physical strength?
No?
Kay.
And when SBP killed E2 Supes, it was an insane teenager vs. an old man with no superpowers. They never had a real fight besides that as far as I know.
Actually, they were hitting him hard enough to ensure that he wouldn't kill them. And taking into account that superman didn't hold back with zod, and pg doesn't hold back, and supergirl doesn't know how, I'd say that he was getting quite a beating.
Originally posted by UniOmni
But yet, he hasn't koed a top tier yet.Kurse handled both BRB and Thor together.
He's got better lifting feats than Kurse, surely.
But battle feats(the ones that actually show how characters REALLY stack), he doesn't approach.
No. battle feats really don't mean shit without other feats. Surfer Jobbers to everyone but when he has to save a planet or some far out shit, he shines. So we know that he can pretty much own anyone. We dont' see him getting all molecule bending in battles, but we know he can. So you can take that battle feats crap and shove it. And SBP is now in a killing mode. He broke MM Neck. Something that has never happened. Destroyed atlantis with heat vision THRU the sea. and threw a crystal so hard that he killed zod with one throw. So why does he need to knock a top tier out when he's so good at killing them?
