Kurse vs. Superboy-Prime: Armwrestle

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Are you actually saying Superman is twice as strong as Thor? Or moreso?

But what [b]I'm saying is that you don't have to be 4x as strong as Thor to swat BA aside.

It's something Thanos could do and Thanos, as Uni said, is not 4x stronger than Thor.

The blow didn't even KO Adam and the distance it threw him has been matched or surpassed by characters such as The Rhino who has knocked people into orbit. [/B]

Um Thanos is far beyond 4 times stronger than Thor. That is the first thing. 2nd thing, Black Adam's durability is among the best in comics, It's magically amped. It's equal to CM's and we have seen CM be turned inside out by a tesseract bomb and keep on going. Your logic fails on so many lvls. Do you know how hard it is to move a planet? Let alone so fast that no one even notices. That would require that you be so strong that there is no effort at all. Superman, Wonder Woman, and Martian manhunter had to struggle to move earth against the sun's gravity. For all intents and purposes, the planets SBP moved where both bigger than the earth. And yet he moved them with ease. It is safe to say, that SBP is at least 10 times stonger than Thor.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um Thanos is far beyond 4 times stronger than Thor. That is the first thing. 2nd thing, Black Adam's durability is among the best in comics, It's magically amped. It's equal to CM's and we have seen CM be turned inside out by a tesseract bomb and keep on going. Your logic fails on so many lvls. Do you know how hard it is to move a planet? Let alone so fast that no one even notices. That would require that you be so strong that there is no effort at all. Superman, Wonder Woman, and Martian manhunter had to struggle to move earth against the sun's gravity. For all intents and purposes, the planets SBP moved where both bigger than the earth. And yet he moved them with ease. It is safe to say, that SBP is at least 10 times stonger than Thor.

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Um Thanos is far beyond 4 times stronger than Thor

I'd ask you to prove that but I know you can't.

2nd thing, Black Adam's durability is among the best in comics, It's magically amped. It's equal to CM's and we have seen CM be turned inside out by a tesseract bomb and keep on going. Your logic fails on so many lvls.

So it wouldn't take 4x Thor's strength just to knock him away (not even KO him)?

Okay.

Do you know how hard it is to move a planet?

Not reflected in his fights with heroes so not relevant

That would require that you be so strong that there is no effort at all.

I don't see how.

Superman, Wonder Woman, and Martian manhunter had to struggle to move earth against the sun's gravity.

Yay. Supes is a bit above Thor in strength.
WW and MM are below.
So, that isn't 4x Thor's strength.

For all intents and purposes, the planets SBP moved where both bigger than the earth.

Just like the way the planet Terrax busted was small....

you don't have proof for either of these claims.

It is safe to say, that SBP is at least 10 times stonger than Thor.

And that's why he can't KO a single top tier.

Nice.

Shin you are obviouslt a fanboy or retarded
I can understand being a thor fanboy because he is f*cking awesome but you must face facts

Dc superheroes generally > Marvel by several multitudes

That is one of the reasons marvel has cosmics

It evens out the balance

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
I'd ask you to prove that but I know you can't.

So it wouldn't take 4x Thor's strength just to knock him away (not even KO him)?

Okay.

Not reflected in his fights with heroes so not relevant

I don't see how.

Yay. Supes is a bit above Thor in strength.
WW and MM are below.
So, that isn't 4x Thor's strength.

Just like the way the planet Terrax busted was small....

you don't have proof for either of these claims.

And that's why he can't KO a single top tier.

Nice.

Originally posted by Sirius77
It is cannon for marvel. The cosmic egg was mentioned in the handbook and in some of the comics mentioned the actual crossover. There was someone a few years back that said the same thing that you said and someone pulled up a scan to say otherwise. I don't have the can. But I bet that someone that does will see your post and post the scan.
Also, h/p doomsday is > the physical ds. Because no one hasbeat him. He evolves to everything. It took the entropy of the big bang to halt him. He still came back. Also, it just so happens that this writer writes for superman and thor, and he says that out of the two superman is many times stronger, and it just so happens that superman caught thors full hammer strike with one hand and koed thor. There are way too many variables for that to be a coincidence. I have more evidence to support my argument than you do.

Please tell me how pushing planets, punching through dimensions, fighting a city of toptiers while weakened, and fighting three kryptonians at one time is only a durability feat and not a strength feat?

So you think that thor could just pimp smack adam away?

I've said it before, but it needs repeating.

This post right here, is the reason why Superman and his fans are some of the most hated/disliked posters on the internet.

Superman is stronger than Thor......sure, by a shade.

Superman is many times stronger than Thor? Not on your life.

If Superman is 100, i'd say Thor is 90.

And the lift feats come back once again...

How many times do i have to tell you.....lift feats are nice powah displays, but the actual fights are where we see how they stack up in truth?

It's nice that Blitzoid can bench press a galaxy, but the fact that he can't ko a top tier is more telling about how they stack up.

And SBP didn't fight three Kryptonians.

2.5 kryptonians had him dead to rights, and sitting on his ass weeping.

He's stronger than the top tier by a large margin, sure.

But he's never been presented as FOUR TIMES THE TOP TIER IN STRENGTH!!

Lifting feats are sure to come, since that's all the guy really has.

And to the guy who said DC top tier>Marvel for the most part.......lol.......

wut?

DC Earth has a more central grouping of top tiers, since that's where most of them and their stories take place.

Marvel Earth has more midtiers than top tiers, and always has.

But just because Surfer is flying by the vega galaxy, doesn't mean he's not a marvel top tier.

Same goes for BRB, Quasar, Gladiator, BB(whereever he's at) and many more.

DC's top tier isn't > Marvel top tier.

DC Earth top tier> Marvel Earth top tiers, plainly due to numbers.

As far as strength and speed go Dc generally outclasses marvel by a shitload
As for energy maniplution with the except of a few Dc top tiers generally go to Marvel

People just need to see the black and white of it

Kurse

DC has more superspeed and superstrong combo characters than Marvel, true.

Pure strength is about equal.

Energy manipulation is about equal, with an edge to DC imo.

Originally posted by UniOmni
DC has more superspeed and superstrong combo characters than Marvel, true.

Pure strength is about equal.

Energy manipulation is about equal, with an edge to DC imo.

str to Dc

and people like pheonix, Genis and galactus makes me want to give energy to marvel

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Well people like Supes 1million
Darkseid
and validus makes me give

str to Dc

and people like pheonix, Genis and galactus makes me want to give energy to marvel

DS actually has far better energy manip.

But You have Takion, the gaurdians, The Antimonitor, The Starbreaker, and the Imperiex who has some serious energy manip as well.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS actually has far better energy manip.

But You have Takion, the gaurdians, The Antimonitor, The Starbreaker, and the Imperiex who has some serious energy manip as well.

And they are the "except a few dc top teirs" people

but Marvel has quite a bit

Pheonix, galactus, Molecule man, Thor, odin, the keeper, nova, quaser, thanos, blackheart.... and the list goes on

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
And they are the "except a few dc top teirs" people

but Marvel has quite a bit

Pheonix, galactus, Molecule man, Thor, odin, the keeper, nova, quaser, thanos, blackheart.... and the list goes on

Bah. Orion, Highfather, Cosmic Extant, Amazo, All the GL's, the firestorm matrix, Neron, Asmodel, all have some serious energy manipulation feats. And that's not counting the infinite man, the infinityman, mr. mxy, auron.

I'd say Energy wise They are about even. Strength wise, they are about even over all if you add in marvel's herald's and such. Where DC over does it is giving everyone and thier cousin superspeed.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Kurse is at his second amp level of strength.

The Sun is out to keep SBP at full power.

Who wins?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Bah. Orion, Highfather, Cosmic Extant, Amazo, All the GL's, the firestorm matrix, Neron, Asmodel, all have some serious energy manipulation feats. And that's not counting the infinite man, the infinityman, mr. mxy, auron.

I'd say Energy wise They are about even. Strength wise, they are about even over all if you add in marvel's herald's and such. Where DC over does it is giving everyone and thier cousin superspeed.

And the gl's dont impress me much

they job WAY to often

So no proof SBP is 4x as strong as the top tier.

I'll give it to Kurse then.

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Forgot about neuron and extant......

And the gl's dont impress me much

they job WAY to often

Originally posted by UniOmni
But just because Surfer is flying by the vega galaxy, doesn't mean he's not a marvel top tier.

I lol'd.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
So no proof SBP is 4x as strong as the top tier.

I'll give it to Kurse then.

Besides the fact that No top tier can move planets with ease? I don't think any top tier can take on Superman, Supergirl, and Powergirl while DEPOWERED and still win. You should just bow your head in shame. I'm so glad that you are proving to be the Hater i always knew you where.

Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
So no proof SBP is 4x as strong as the top tier.

I'll give it to Kurse then.

considering the rest of the thread gives it to sbp your judging means less then shit