Thor vs Darkseid

Originally posted by quanchi112
Some shit really is stupid. I know we get into it sometimes and I know I bring it up but making Ds fall over was one of the stupidest things I have ever seen a writer do to a character with a lot of history. That was one of the worst things I have ever seen. Why do that? Makes no sense to me.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
😕 I'm a little unclear on what your trying to say. That people would say Supes is superior because he's shown more lifting power? Well I doubt people would think that over here, because Seid has been shown to be Supes superior on panel. Kinda how people think that Doomsday, Validus and Despero is superior, because they out performed him.

And that's why I don't go to other forums. Some people are to stubborn and fanboyish to listen to reason. That's why that statement doesn't matter.

😐 Umm because Superman beating Ds the way did was retarded and it wouldn't be a slugfest if Thanos was able to project energy.....

I don't get it....when did I ever try to take away Superman's feats? [/B]

Why not go into other forums becuz the think differently than the majority here. Its good for you and will broaden your horizons.

Ds tried to zap him with the omega effect and failed. So its not like Ds didnt try to kill him with the omega. He did it just failed. Before Thanos was amped he was shown to be above Thor and Thing at once. Thor is relative or comparable to Superman and that was when Thanos was at his weakest. Thanos wouldnt need to energy blast Superman but could definitely brawl with him and come out on top. Hes a monster in combat. Supes went down really quick against the cyborg.

You tried to take away from Supermans feats and his good showings against Darkseid.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
That's why the story should be ignored. 🙂

Originally posted by UniOmni
WTF?

This is why people don't like you.

Captain Marvel stalemates an amped Superman in DOV.

He's strong as Superman.

Hulk has strength feats that eclipse Superman.

He's stronger than Superman under some portrayals.

Surfer is as, if not more durable than Superman.

Thanos beat him nearly to death with a few punches.

And wtf power amping do you refer to?

When's the last time you recall Thanos explicitly amping?

He's a freak among Eternals already, and has been powered up a few times.

Thanos with power or blasting wouldn't beat Superman.....

Superman without power wouldn't beat Darkseid.........

Where's the relevance?

GTFO!

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I honestly can't say who wins. Based on DS previous showings against Elite Top tiers I'd say Thor has a fair chance. Especially considering he's much more powerful than Superman. But hey, DS probably takes this.

DS gets raped.

Originally posted by batdude123
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even more annoying.. the spacing after every two words. ha. j/k. i know you were only making a point..

Originally posted by Larceny
I honestly can't say who wins. Based on DS previous showings against Elite Top tiers I'd say Thor has a fair chance. Especially considering he's much more powerful than Superman. But hey, DS probably takes this.

We both know Thor takes this. A few months ago I would have argued for Ds but now hes become just sad really.

Given the rampant inconsistencies, mischaracterizations, outright contradictions, and general stupidity of the whole storyline.............I seem to recall a rule stating that certain storyarcs can be discounted by general consent as not counting. I think they used Frank Miller's run on Daredevil as an example. Mainly because he butchered the character and flatout contradicted established canon. Maybe that rule isn't in force anymore, but if there was ever a case for it, this is it.

PIS = Plot Induced Stupidity

At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will "job" to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Given the rampant inconsistencies, mischaracterizations, outright contradictions, and general stupidity of the whole storyline.............I seem to recall a rule stating that certain storyarcs can be discounted by general consent as not counting. I think they used Frank Miller's run on Daredevil as an example. Mainly because he butchered the character and flatout contradicted established canon. Maybe that rule isn't in force anymore, but if there was ever a case for it, this is it.

PIS = Plot Induced Stupidity

At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will "job" to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates.

Superman Batman counts for every single story made. All of them are rediculous.

There's a reason that a one time occurrence (Spiderman/Firelord) is always used as the prime example of PIS.

Originally posted by Val
There's a reason that a one time occurrence (Spiderman/Firelord) is always used as the prime example of PIS.

What about the example of the frank miller run of daredevil? Surely SB counts as it just contridicts everything and makes no sense most of the time.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Superman Batman counts for every single story made. All of them are rediculous.

if he's written properly, Darkseid obliterates thor. But becuz quanchi wants it to be darkseid at his weakest, Thor has a shot. 😉

If you're talking about Darkseid and his inability to handle the Kryptonian, Superman/Batman isn't contradicting anything.

PIS, as an excuse, is overused on this forum anyway. When most people cry PIS, they actually mean CIS and CIS isn't exempt from Vs. threads.

Originally posted by Val
If you're talking about Darkseid and his inability to handle the Kryptonian, Superman/Batman isn't contradicting anything.

PIS, as an excuse, is overused on this forum anyway. When most people cry PIS, they actually mean CIS and CIS isn't exempt from Vs. threads.

Nah. I'm talking about DS ineffectual use of his powers in that series. Or superman one shotting despero with heat vision, or batman bateraning doomsday clones, or mxy pulling out multiversal versions of sb after IC, or batman holding highfather's staff, or more and more. The book is just aweful.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Nah. I'm talking about DS ineffectual use of his powers in that series. Or superman one shotting despero with heat vision, or batman bateraning doomsday clones, or mxy pulling out multiversal versions of sb after IC, or batman holding highfather's staff, or more and more. The book is just aweful.

You always champion the the work of Grant Morrison and how Grant Morrison is going to do such a great job on Final Crisis (and he will) but you realize Morrison is the one who started half the shit you complain about?

Batman as Batgod? Morrison
Weaker portrayal of New Gods? Morrison
The mega powerful Superman? Morrison (and general editorial direction 😛 )

Superman/Batman doesn't contradict anything DC hasn't been showing us for years now. At least, not anymore than other books do.

Originally posted by TheGame17
if he's written properly, Darkseid obliterates thor. But becuz quanchi wants it to be darkseid at his weakest, Thor has a shot. 😉

Originally posted by Val
If you're talking about Darkseid and his inability to handle the Kryptonian, Superman/Batman isn't contradicting anything.

PIS, as an excuse, is overused on this forum anyway. When most people cry PIS, they actually mean CIS and CIS isn't exempt from Vs. threads.