The official "Back to the Future" series thread.

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like a behind the real scenes, if you don't understand, this is what I mean

Mistake: Back to the future 3: If doc couldn't repair the DeLorean after it was struck by lightning and had to leave plans on how to fix the time circuits using 1955 componants, how did he build the time circuits for his train?

Scenario: Doc from 1955 builds the time train and goes back to 1885 to see what he did.

Even though this is confusing and stupidish, this is what I mean by do your own scenario thing

Apart from saying the "it's just a movie" thing, it's also BTTF's own made up rules of Time Travel, made for dramatic effect, rather than scientific accuracy.

The picture that Marty had, and himself, disappeared bit by bit as the time-space continuum was shifting itself to accomodate the fact that Marty has jeopardised his own existance, as opposed to his environment in Part II. It's obviously down to the fact that he is the one travelling through time that causes such diverse results, and that travelling through an alterred timeline of one's history/future, is perfectly fine in BTTF-land, as long as they don't jeapoardise their own existance.

There are many things that don't make sense, like where was Marty's duplicate from the Biff-ruled future in BTTF Pt 2? It's just one of those things that shouldn't be thought too hard about, because, like I said, BTTF's rules are self-contained rules utilised for maximum dramatic effect. They are science-fiction-fantasy films.

As for his parents not rememberring Marty, I am the spitting image of one of my uncles when he was my age, and only until they saw a photograph of my uncle when he was my age did my family realise how much I looked like him.

The idea that his parents not rememberring what Marty looked like, and the fact they never had any pictures of Marty while he was in the 50's, mean it's understandable they'd forget. Also, the idea that their son travelled back in time to play a gig at their high school would be the last thing they'd ever think of.

Marty does not change or age and he plays a huge role in George Mcflys and Lorraine Baines' marriage so how could his parents not remember

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I have a question.

BTTF2: Doc goes back in time whilst hovering because he got hit by lightning. He wasn't doing 88mph. Whole problem in BttF3 is getting DeLorean to 88mph (no probs with the gigawatts). Whole problem in BttF1 is getting the gigawatts (88mph no probs).

So my Q is: how come doc goes back to 1885 in part 2 with only the gigawatts and no 88mph?

Regarding lorraine and george not realizing that their friend marty looks exacly like their future son is easy to answer. Remember, when he goes to the new 1985, he has altered everyones life.Only he and doc ever knew about time travel. So at the dance in 1955, where his parents meet where Marty is, remember that in the new reality, as far as they are concerned, marty was never in 1955, so theyd never have met him. I hope that makes sense.

Heres a mistake- near the beginning of the film, jennifer states shes going to her grans and gives marty the phone number. however, there is no way in that short time she would have had time to write it that fast. It also starts with 555-typical number US films give in movies because it doesnt exist.

7 digits and "I love you"? It doesn't take long to write that. And there's probably some law about making 555 numbers in movies. If you make up a real phone number, the person who has that number could sue 'cause he's getting phone calls from people that saw the movie.

On another note, I've been thinking about this. In the first one, everyone is changed at the end and are dressing much nicer. Would Marty's wardrobe have changed as well? What if what he changed in the past ultimately changed so much that in this alternate reality, he doesn't own any jeans or red t-shirts. Would he still be wearing them when he came back? His memory didn't change when he changed everything, could anything physical have changed?

And in Part 2, Biff says he's supposed to be in Switzerland. Was he actually in Switzerland up to one point and then suddenly disappeared because Marty came back from 2015?

Yes wolfie I understand the number part, my point is she wouldnt have wrote it that fast! Another mistake..please correct me if im wrong...near the beginning in the mall car park after Doc has demonstrated time travel to Marty, shortly afterwards the Libyans approach them because they are after Doc. Notice that the lights on the van suddenly turn on and the driver starts accelerating towarsds them, this indicates that the actors have just got in the van for that scene and they havne driven from where ever they have came from. hope thats not too confusing, im trying to be clear!

Not a mistake as such..but here goes another one...Marty and Jennifer in 1985 arrive at school and you can see in one of the scenes down the hallway, that it is pitch black outside. This is supposed to be during the school day!...however I think I know why. In 1984, when it was shot, Fox was busy doing Family Ties and had a contract with them. Therfore the film had to be done in his own time...such as night time!

And going back to the martys mum not realizing her future son looked like Marty from 1955 scenerio- well marty getting his parents together in 1955 is the main plot of the movie. When he was accidently sent to 1955, they needed a storyline to it so it would make the movie, thats the significance of it. But the bottom line is, only marty and doc knew about time travel. To everyone else, it doesnt exist. So the idea of their son going back in time to 1955 would never have ocured to them, therfore they wouldnt ever think about it.

Originally posted by marky
Yes wolfie I understand the number part, my point is she wouldnt have wrote it that fast! Another mistake..please correct me if im wrong...near the beginning in the mall car park after Doc has demonstrated time travel to Marty, shortly afterwards the Libyans approach them because they are after Doc. Notice that the lights on the van suddenly turn on and the driver starts accelerating towarsds them, this indicates that the actors have just got in the van for that scene and they havne driven from where ever they have came from. hope thats not too confusing, im trying to be clear!

Originally posted by marky
And going back to the martys mum not realizing her future son looked like Marty from 1955 scenerio- well marty getting his parents together in 1955 is the main plot of the movie. When he was accidently sent to 1955, they needed a storyline to it so it would make the movie, thats the significance of it. But the bottom line is, only marty and doc knew about time travel. To everyone else, it doesnt exist. So the idea of their son going back in time to 1955 would never have ocured to them, therfore they wouldnt ever think about it.

Wolfie-I would have thought George would have been suspicious of Calvin (Marty)in general. Did he not wonder why he was so keen to fix him up with Lorraine?..Didnt he wonder why Marty was taking an unhealthy intrest in him? I would have thought George would have found that weird.

He did. I recall several times in the movie, George was asking Marty why he cared, what does it matter to him.

Heres a good point and a new one, in BTTF2 theres the famous book- The Almonanic, sorry about spelling. Therefore, why didnt Marty end his adventure taking the book with him to 1985?...As the book had all major sporting results from 1950-2000. Then he could have been a millionaire!....just a thought anyway, because thats what I would have done!

Okay, that one was bluntly explained in the movie. Doc told him not to take advantage of time travel like that. He wanted to use the time machine to see where the world is going and why. He didn't want it to be used to bet on sports.

Yeah I know, hence what happened when old biff from 2015 went back in time. Im just pointing out that Id have done the same thing, if I was Marty.

This is a statement made earlier:
Something that has always bugged me about BTTF2 and BTTF3 is this...

In the 3rd installment...Marty is upset about leaving Jennifer on her porch in the alternate 1985, but is reassured by Doc, that when they changed the past, the alternate 1985 changed back to the normal 1985 the departed from to begin with....

So therefore, when Biff steals the time machine is 2015 and heads off to the past to give himself the Sports Almanac, shouldn't have their surroundings in 2015 changed immediately?
In fact things did not change, so why was it nessesary to go back to 1955 and stop Biff from giving himself the book, when in 2015, things were status quo ???
I can answer this one I think!.....
When old biff from 2015 stole the book and time machine and went back to 1955, he would have ben there a fair while...atleast a few hours to locate himself and choose a time to handover his book. Therefore in 2015 where doc and marty are , they are also there only a few hours so the alternate time wouldnt have changed at that point. Remember also, Biff would have have to have made all that money from the sports bets to become powerful, so that alone would have taken a longish time.
Hope this makes sense....!

Wolfie, regarding this comment you made earlier:

That wasn't what we were talking about. We were discussing whether or not George should be suspicious of Lorraine meeting up with "Calvin Klein" and having an affair with him. That would be the only logical explanation of why their son looks EXACTLY like him.

Guys, I can put the finish on this argument once and for all about would George be suspicious about lorraine and marty having an affair and their son looking like him. Answer...NO.
Look at the facts, George Lorraine and Marty all met for a week in november 1955. But Marty Mcfly wasnt born until 1968 which would have made him 17 in 1985. Therfore, Lorraine didnt get pregnant til 13 years later. So George would have no reason to doubt them. Hope that resolves the argument everyone, including you wolfie.!

Okay... you know what an affair is, right?

We were discussing whether or not George should be suspicious of Lorraine meeting up with "Calvin Klein" and having an affair with him years after the events in 1955. When he sees that his son looks exactly like Calvin, would he suspect that his wife is cheating on him with a past love interest? That's what we were debating.