King Hyperion vs Exiles Surfer

Originally posted by Photon009
Yea, comparing a low feat of Hyperion's and a big one of Superman's is really fair. How bout saying Superman needed Wonder Woman's help moving the moon, or got KOed from an exploding gas station, or getting taken out from one blast from GL John, compared to Hyperion plowing Wonder Man through a planet, or exerting planet-crushing force in his fight with Gladiator or shaking the planet in his fight with his evil counterpart Hyperion.

Also, comparing Hyperion's best feat to Superman's best feat is also somehow not fair.

Originally posted by Val
Two overrated characters. Flip a coin.

Originally posted by Val
The crux of your argument is that while Hyperion has no big victories over anyone of worth and no good strength, speed, or durability feats worthy of comparison, he's still Superman's equal.

This is a broken argument where you like it or not.

You dont have to actually beat someone to have a good feat. Being shown superior, and only losing thanks to a plot device like Hulk using his hearing against him or Thor shrinking him is just as impressive as winning. And yes, on average, Hyperion is Superman's equal whether you like it or not. Superman has more high feats because he's been around so much longer, but with that also comes more low feats. So when it all averages out, theyre equals. And that is a fact.

Originally posted by Photon009
Hyperion looked physically superior to Thor, it's that simple. We only saw him hit Thor twice, but it's obvious he hit Thor more than that. I mean, Thor was getting the shit beat out of him, and for the last ****ing time, everyone, including Thor, knew he was done for against Hyperion h2h. And he was pissed off, and then may have looked suprised when Mjolnir was taken away because he knew he was screwed physically. The fact of the matter is, if the fight went on, Thor couldve at best lasted another couple pages before being knocked the hell out. That was clearly shown.

Thor was only glad to have his hammer back, since he could fire off other sort of powers, and he was pretty dependent upon his hammer back then (read Ragnarok for confirmation). It doesn't mean he was almost KO'ed.

Or that his hammer just got torn away when he was using it. That sort of causes surprise when your hammer is supposed to be unliftable except by the worthy.

No it wasn't. He was hit twice. 🙂
Plus, if you've actually followed Thor, you'd know that he can take extreme punishment before going down. Even if he was bloodied or hurt during that fight, he would have lasted more than a couple of pages.
He wasn't even worn down in that tiny scuffle.

You guys heard it here. Hulk thunder clapping is a plot device, dammit!

Originally posted by Photon009
Yea, comparing a low feat of Hyperion's and a big one of Superman's is really fair. How bout saying Superman needed Wonder Woman's help moving the moon, or got KOed from an exploding gas station, or getting taken out from one blast from GL John, compared to Hyperion plowing Wonder Man through a planet, or exerting planet-crushing force in his fight with Gladiator or shaking the planet in his fight with his evil counterpart Hyperion.

Originally posted by Val
You guys heard it here. Hulk thunder clapping is a plot device, dammit!

Originally posted by Photon009
No, im showing it evenly. Everyone else thinks im showing it biased to Marvel because most of, if not all of you are very DC biased.

That's nice. You're an idiot though, because the only person that has been arguing DC was Vally.

"Grrr... everybody is biased, I'm a god!"
Basically how you come off to people Genis/Armo/sock.

Originally posted by Val
The crux of your argument is that while Hyperion has no big victories over anyone of worth and no good strength, speed, or durability feats worthy of comparison, he's still Superman's equal.

This is a broken argument where you like it or not.

Genis will NEVER admit to being wrong.

Countless people have debated against him on SHC and KMC, but he merely rants and raves, only to come back later changing the game or talking about killing Pitbulls, but never admits to blatantly misinterpreting the comics.

What's worse is his character tastes.

I like a few characters because of how powerful they are, and how they carry that power.

Nothing deep or worthwhile to them really, but nice fluff characters....

People like Beta Ray, Thor(at times) Teth Adam, and a few others.

Characters who've got wins, and carry it well.

But Genis?

For some reason, he's taken a shining to Firelord, Hyperion and Genis.

Genis is a worthwhile character because of who his father was...... the other two tho.?

Jokes... and more jokes.

He'll maintain that since Superman has more appearances, that he's got more low showings, which brings his average down.

But Superman doesn't have many low showings, for the most part.

He's got the gas station explosion from 14 years ago, getting handled by a Vampire, and a few more.

But Superman has very few low showings, truth be told.

Genis won't ever admit that, since i doubt he's read enough Superman to really name any.

We debunked his Hyperion claims over at SHC, but he brought them over here, to continuie his agenda.

Just ignore him.

I love to double space.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Genis will NEVER admit to being wrong. Countless people have debated against him on SHC and KMC, but he merely rants and raves, only to come back later changing the game or talking about killing Pitbulls, but never admits to blatantly misinterpreting the comics. What's worse is his character tastes.

I like a few characters because of how powerful they are, and how they carry that power. Nothing deep or worthwhile to them really, but nice fluff characters.... People like Beta Ray, Thor(at times) Teth Adam, and a few others.
Characters who've got wins, and carry it well.

But Genis? For some reason, he's taken a shining to Firelord, Hyperion and Genis.Genis is a worthwhile character because of who his father was...... the other two tho.? Jokes... and more jokes.

He'll maintain that since Superman has more appearances, that he's got more low showings, which brings his average down. But Superman doesn't have many low showings, for the most part. He's got the gas station explosion from 14 years ago, getting handled by a Vampire, and a few more. But Superman has very few low showings, truth be told.

Genis won't ever admit that, since i doubt he's read enough Superman to really name any. We debunked his Hyperion claims over at SHC, but he brought them over here, to continuie his agenda.

Just ignore him.

I love to double space.

Sounds about right as well.

I love you like an internet brother Omni but stop the damn double spacing. For the love of baby kittens, stop the double spacing! 🙁

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