Yeah, THIS cop was WAY outta line....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz5--_qI_hU&feature=related
Yeah, THIS cop was WAY outta line....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz5--_qI_hU&feature=related
It seems to me they are letting the general public know who is in charge, preparation for the police state. This is funny, brave bloke got up again and again🙂
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Originally posted by Bicnarok[/B][/QUOTE] BULLSHIT. See my two previous posts.
It seems to me they are letting the general public know who is in charge, preparation for the police state. This is funny, brave bloke got up again and again🙂
but you must admit, there are times when it is appropriate to use a tazer.
Like, when said individual above had finished fighting the cop and was trying to get back into his car to drive away, clearly intoxicated.
It is really easy to look at a situation and see the uniformed and armed individual as acting needlessly tough, but what other option would you suggest? The cop beat the man into submission or shock him into submission? Talking had already failed, as had forceful restraint.
I'm not saying either extreme is correct because neither can go for EVERY SINGLE SITUATION.
With that being said, force should not be the first option. I'm not saying every cop does this, and certainly no one will YouTube a cop being more calm and assisting people and the such. They will only recieve bad publicity and I do hate that.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Returning to the original speeding ticket Tazering. As far as I know you can´t get a ticket in most European countries unless there evidence, ie a photograph or video incorporating a speed measuring device.Is this different in the US, can a cop just say "you were speeding" and thats that?
I'm sure an American poster can clarify, but in Canada, to get a specific ticket for going X over the limit, ya, they must have it on a radar gun or whatever.
However, there are many charges that can be ticketed for that a cop can almost make up on the spot. Reckless driving etc, can be given with little recourse for the driver.
Originally posted by chithappens
I'm not saying either extreme is correct because neither can go for EVERY SINGLE SITUATION.With that being said, force should not be the first option. I'm not saying every cop does this, and certainly no one will YouTube a cop being more calm and assisting people and the such. They will only recieve bad publicity and I do hate that.
I agree entirely. There was a man in Canada who died recently from a tazering from police officers. The worst part was that he had stopped struggling and was being walked away by the police when it happened.
I got into a discussion with my parents about it, and they both seemed so taken aback by the idea of tazers in general, given how lethal they are.
But, its a little absurd to talk about the dangers of a tazer when cops carry guns. I'll be honest, if a person is swinging at a police officer, I have no problems with them being tazed, even if it is a 1 in a 1000000 chance they might die. However, it shouldn't matter about the safety of a tazer in many of the situations that make it to youtube, as like you said, it is normally when police are acting stupid.
Originally posted by Bicnarokyes, thats why we have traffic court. All the idiot had to do was accept the ticket and fight it. but NO. He had to act like a know it all. The cop has a RADAR, and the driver was just GUESSING.
Returning to the original speeding ticket Tazering. As far as I know you can´t get a ticket in most European countries unless there evidence, ie a photograph or video incorporating a speed measuring device.Is this different in the US, can a cop just say "you were speeding" and thats that?
YES, the cop overreacted, but this could have all been avoided if he had just FOLLOWED THE OFFICERS INSTRUCTIONS. when the cop drew the taser, the guy turns and started walking away. at this point, it is safe to say that the officer might have assumed he was gonna run.
Me, personally, I'd have tried to be more clear that if he didnt cooperate that I was gonna ***** slap him.
Originally posted by KingTechDon't see things like this happen in Holland, Germany or the UK...well, not as often.
This is really a problem almost in all the countries of the world. The governments has given more powers to police to establish the rit of the government.That is why we see such incidents that show the police is out of control.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
YES, the cop overreacted, but this could have all been avoided if he had just FOLLOWED THE OFFICERS INSTRUCTIONS. when the cop drew the taser, the guy turns and started walking away. at this point, it is safe to say that the officer might have assumed he was gonna run.
I thought it was procedure to tell the driver what speed he was going and why he was getting the ticket. I've been pulled over once for speeding, just got a warning. But the officer told me my exact speed and why I was getting the warning. He just didn't say "Oh, you were going a little fast back there."
The guy was stupid to turn his back and start walking back to his car but the cop just tasers him with no warning. Shouldn't be allowed to happen. Then when the other officer arrives he lies about it, if the cop didn't think he was in the wrong, why lie about the whole situation? The driver wasn't "hopping around" he was asking questions, that should have been answered, then gets tasered for it.
Then the guy asks him to read him his rights and the cop refuses to do it.
Originally posted by Rölandyes, the cop didnt follow procedure, but the driver only made it worse by trying to assume leadership with the cop. sign the ticket, fight it in traffic court. how hard is that?
I thought it was procedure to tell the driver what speed he was going and why he was getting the ticket. I've been pulled over once for speeding, just got a warning. But the officer told me my exact speed and why I was getting the warning. He just didn't say "Oh, you were going a little fast back there."The guy was stupid to turn his back and start walking back to his car but the cop just tasers him with no warning. Shouldn't be allowed to happen. Then when the other officer arrives he lies about it, if the cop didn't think he was in the wrong, why lie about the whole situation? The driver wasn't "hopping around" he was asking questions, that should have been answered, then gets tasered for it.
Then the guy asks him to read him his rights and the cop refuses to do it.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
yes, the cop didnt follow procedure, but the driver only made it worse by trying to assume leadership with the cop. sign the ticket, fight it in traffic court. how hard is that?
All the guy wanted to know was the exact speed the cop clocked him at. How hard is it to tell him that?
I think people are under some kind of "perfect world" misconception.
The job of a police officer is to ALWAYS BE IN CONTROL.
So, if a cop pulls you over, their job is to BE IN CONTROL.
It does not matter if they are right or wrong, but if you try to assert control over the situation, they will escalate it.
There are ways to argue and plead your case to the police. For instance, give him your license and registration, cooperate, then ask. Like RJ said, if they are mistaken, then you have legal recourse in a court of law.
Most of these tazer situations seem, imho, to stem from some idea these people have, that they, for some strange reason, deserve to have the authority over the police man.
Originally posted by inimalistEXACTLY.
I think people are under some kind of "perfect world" misconception.The job of a police officer is to ALWAYS BE IN CONTROL.
So, if a cop pulls you over, their job is to BE IN CONTROL.
It does not matter if they are right or wrong, but if you try to assert control over the situation, they will escalate it.
There are ways to argue and plead your case to the police. For instance, give him your license and registration, cooperate, then ask. Like RJ said, if they are mistaken, then you have legal recourse in a court of law.
Most of these tazer situations seem, imho, to stem from some idea these people have, that they, for some strange reason, deserve to have the authority over the police man.
Originally posted by Rölandno attitude, I just wanted to be sure you got my point.
Yeah.No need to get an attitude.