Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, THIS cop was WAY outta line....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz5--_qI_hU&feature=related
HOLY SHIT! Ex Marine laid down some village justice. That is AWESOME. You only hear bout that shit movie's.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, THIS cop was WAY outta line....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz5--_qI_hU&feature=related
HOLY SHIT! Ex Marine laid down some village justice. That is AWESOME. You only hear bout that shit movie's.
Originally posted by Bicnarok[/B][/QUOTE]
It seems to me they are letting the general public know who is in charge, preparation for the police state. This is funny, brave bloke got up again and again🙂
Yeah, not sure how he is brave. Thats one dumbshit that deserved to get tasered and maced
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
yes, thats why we have traffic court. All the idiot had to do was accept the ticket and fight it. but NO. He had to act like a know it all. The cop has a RADAR, and the driver was just GUESSING.YES, the cop overreacted, but this could have all been avoided if he had just FOLLOWED THE OFFICERS INSTRUCTIONS. when the cop drew the taser, the guy turns and started walking away. at this point, it is safe to say that the officer might have assumed he was gonna run.
Me, personally, I'd have tried to be more clear that if he didnt cooperate that I was gonna ***** slap him.
More importantly, it could have been avoided had the cop does his job properly, and told the man how fast he was going, and more importantly, warned the man that he was going to use a taser, as is common procedure. The guy was just standing there trying to talk to the cop and understand what was going on. That's not against the law.
The guy wasn't trying to assert control, he was asking completely fair questions. Yes, he began stepping back a bit when the cop pulled the taser because it's freaking human reaction to recoil when there's something that can cause pain pointed at you, especially if it's without warning, like this one was.
Originally posted by BackFire
More importantly, it could have been avoided had the cop does his job properly, and told the man how fast he was going, and more importantly, warned the man that he was going to use a taser, as is common procedure. The guy was just standing there trying to talk to the cop and understand what was going on. That's not against the law.The guy wasn't trying to assert control, he was asking completely fair questions. Yes, he began stepping back a bit when the cop pulled the taser because it's freaking human reaction to recoil when there's something that can cause pain pointed at you, especially if it's without warning, like this one was.
I don't think anyone is saying that the cop acted according to how we, in a perfect world, would want him to.
Yet, I would contend that deliberately disobeying a police officer, whether they are in the right or wrong, should count as "trying to assert control".
I would like to know where you guys are from, because it seems there that a cop yelling "Get on the ground and put your hands behind your back" where you're from is more of a "please and thank you" thing...
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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Most cops. sure. One bad apple spoils it for all, I see.So most baseball players, thanks to Barry Bonds, are steroid junkies.
Most Baseball players, thanks to Pete Rose, gamble on their baseball games.
Most NFL WR's, thanx to Rae Carruth, do drive by shootings on their pregnant girlfriends....shall I continue? get the point?
Maybe if you weren't going 175 MPH down the freeway, the cops wouldn't give you such a hard time. 😆
It's not just one bad apple, with cops though. With them, damn-near half the barrel is spoiled.
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Though I can't claim it as fact, I have seen it and have been told very similar stories to attest that the Law Enforcement field attracts people who are control freaks.
I once had a cop unholster his gun and yell at me to put my hands up, because I got out of my car and said "excuse me, officer" while he was talking to another cop in a squad car in a parking lot. Control Freaks.
Originally posted by inimalist
"Stanford Prison Experiment"
Which was one of the biggest disasters in social research history.
Originally posted by Robtard
Though I can't claim it as fact, I have seen it and have been told very similar stories to attest that the Law Enforcement field attracts people who are control freaks.
Well of course, it allows them to [legally] act out their personality.
Originally posted by inimalist
"It's not that we put bad apples in a good barrel. We put good apples in a bad barrel. The barrel corrupts anything that it touches."-Phil Zimbardo, psychologist responsible for the "Stanford Prison Experiment"
Even though it's German, 'Das Experiment' is a decent (fiction)movie which is loosely based on the Stanfard experiment.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Which was one of the biggest disasters in social research history.
yes, for, imho, the exact same reasons that cops are control freaks
Zimbardo will talk about how his position of authority manipulated even how he perceived the experiment.
Giving people authority over another, especially with uniforms and weapons, is a VERY intoxicating experience. Within days, individuals, who had been screened prior to the experiment for aggression and those types of things, became sociopaths.
Don't throw the baby out with the bath water sir.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Well of course, it allows them to [legally] act out their personality.
Does the control freak become the cop or the cop the control freak?
Originally posted by Robtard
Even though it's German, 'Das Experiment' is a decent (fiction)movie which is loosely based on the Stanfard experiment.
I loved that movie 🙂
Originally posted by inimalist
yes, for, imho, the exact same reasons that cops are control freaksZimbardo will talk about how his position of authority manipulated even how he perceived the experiment.
Giving people authority over another, especially with uniforms and weapons, is a VERY intoxicating experience. Within days, individuals, who had been screened prior to the experiment for aggression and those types of things, became sociopaths.
Don't throw the baby out with the bath water sir.
Does the control freak become the cop or the cop the control freak?
I loved that movie 🙂
I could be wrong, but I recall reading how the 'type A' personalities were given the roll of guards, while the type B people where to play the roll of prisoner. Seems like the experiment was manipulated to make a biased conclusion.
Logically, the control freak actively seeks the roll/profession of cop. I find the "devil made me do it" excuse to be absurb in most situations.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Typically the former. Like I said, having the authority to arrest is an excuse to act out their personality.
I wont disagree with you, but I would say that the situation in many of these cases plays more of a role than the personality.
Originally posted by Robtard
I could be wrong, but I recall reading how the 'type A' personalities were given the roll of guards, while the type B people where to play the roll of prisoner. Seems like the experiment was manipulated to make a biased conclusion.Logically, the control freak actively seeks the roll/profession of cop. I find the "devil made me do it" excuse to be absurb in most situations.
That may have been true, I'd have to look it up. I'm certainly not citing the experiment here, more the recent Zimbardo work (he just wrote a book). To the best of my knowledge "Type A" personality doesn't mean more sociopathic, but I could be totally wrong.
I would love to see personality scores for individuals before they start their police education, after education, and then later on in their career. I don't disagree that people who want to control things would become police. I guess all I am saying is: Don't count out the situational factors. I don't think anyone is saying that if the man in the car hadn't questioned the officer he would have still been tazed.
Originally posted by inimalist
That may have been true, I'd have to look it up. I'm certainly not citing the experiment here, more the recent Zimbardo work (he just wrote a book). To the best of my knowledge "Type A" personality doesn't mean more sociopathic, but I could be totally wrong.I would love to see personality scores for individuals before they start their police education, after education, and then later on in their career. I don't disagree that people who want to control things would become police. I guess all I am saying is: Don't count out the situational factors. I don't think anyone is saying that if the man in the car hadn't questioned the officer he would have still been tazed.
I meant more of the classical sense of aggressive and docile personality traits.
Of course situational experiences have an affect and are a factor. After all, every soldier who has killed during wartime certainly wasn't born a natural killer.
its really simple. the cop broke the law by arresting the man with no cause (you know "you're under arrest for ________. you have the right to remain silent, etc..."😉.
so, given that the man was not legally placed under arrest, that was simply an assault. doesnt matter if the guy was an idiot for walking away. doesnt matter that other cops can and have used their taser with just cause and in accordance with the law. all circumstantial parrotous nonesense (which we will likely see spammed over the next 30 or so pages)