Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If Sabs sticks his arm down Pucks throat, the very least that will happen is that he will pass out... worst case scenario his internal organs get shredded.
....Your joking right? No they wouldn't, as all his tissues even his organs are aikin to compressed rubber meaning even his insides are invulnerable and near indestructable
Originally posted by King_Mungi
....Your joking right? No they wouldn't, as all his tissues even his organs are aikin to compressed rubber meaning even his insides are invulnerable and near indestructable
Sabretooth could tear compressed rubber to shreds.
Show me an on panel example of Puck saying "All my organs are invulnerable."
Wow, and I was told I was over-estimating Puck?
Originally posted by jrodslam
I take it Puck has a pretty high healing factor, yes?
What? Are people actually reading my posts or making up whatever they see?
Puck is completly invulnerable even his organs and was said to be nearly indestructable. He doesn't need a healing factor.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Sabretooth could tear compressed rubber to shreds.Show me an on panel example of Puck saying "All my organs are invulnerable."
It's not compressed rubber it's aikin making him as stated invulnerable and nearly indestructable
"Genetic manipulation of cellular structure; Puck's tissues were condensed at a molecular level, causing his body to become akin to compressed rubber"
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/MasterEdition-01-PuckB.jpg
Here Walter explains he compresses everything to get Puck back to dwarf size.
1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-04.jpg
2. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-12.jpg
3. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-13.jpg
4. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-15.jpg
I find it comical you actually believe Sabretooth could even do that to Puck.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
What? Are people actually reading my posts or making up whatever they see?Puck is completly invulnerable even his organs and was said to be nearly indestructable. He doesn't need a healing factor.
Relax dude. I was just asking a question. That was the only thing i made up. I asked that because like srank mentioned, his insides would be rubber-like as well. If that wasnt the case, i then was going to ask what if something happend to him internally?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Wow, and I was told I was over-estimating Puck?What? Are people actually reading my posts or making up whatever they see?
Puck is completly invulnerable even his organs and was said to be nearly indestructable. He doesn't need a healing factor.
It's not compressed rubber it's aikin making him as stated invulnerable and nearly indestructable
"Genetic manipulation of cellular structure; Puck's tissues were condensed at a molecular level, causing his body to become akin to compressed rubber"
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/MasterEdition-01-PuckB.jpg
Here Walter explains he compresses everything to get Puck back to dwarf size.
1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-04.jpg
2. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-12.jpg
3. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-13.jpg
4. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-15.jpgI find it comical you actually believe Sabretooth could even do that to Puck.
And yet no mentioning of Puck's organs being invulnerable on panel... or even that he was compressed for that matter! Walter only says that the scramble enzyme will revert him back to normal. Puck has a tough hide, no arguing that, but I can't think of a single time his internal organs were said to be as durable as his skin.
If you can't find an example I'm just going to assume you get a boner for any character that crosses north across the boarder and can't be trusted. 😈
Just so I don't rub anyone the wrong way... the above statement is a joke.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Relax dude. I was just asking a question. That was the only thing i made up. I asked that because like srank mentioned, his insides would be rubber-like as well. If that wasnt the case, i then was going to ask what if something happend to him internally?
My apologizes, if his skin was just invulnerable maybe something would happen [how Sabretooh could even do that to Puck in the first place is beyond me]. However, his entire DNA was said to be compressed at a molecular level and that would be including his organs so nothing would happen.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And yet no mentioning of Puck's organs being invulnerable on panel... or even that he was compressed for that matter! Walter only says that the scramble enzyme will revert him back to normal. Puck has a tough hide, no arguing that, but I can't think of a single time his internal organs were said to be as durable as his skin.If you can't find an example I'm just going to assume you get a boner for any character that crosses north across the boarder and can't be trusted. 😈
What? Did you read the scans? all his tissues were compressed, and organs are tissues. His entire body his entire DNA was altered, did you read the scans? Even the handbook mentions his tissues were compressed at a molecular level.
Oh yeah and Sabretooth sticking his hand in this throat is more logical 🙄
Originally posted by jrodslam
If it cant be proven Pucks insides/organs are rubber-like as well, and he doesnt have a healnig factor, ill assume he can be effected on the insides.
What? I just did with the scans, his entire body was altered even says that in the scans. Wow, simply wow
Originally posted by SwindlingSmurph
Does it say this anywhere on panel? I'd love to see, because it might be the funniest excuse for powers I've heard, if misinterpreted."Why can't I hurt you?!?"
"...
My DNA was squished."
Lulz.
Even says that's why he is invulnerable as he was squished.
1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-04.jpg
2. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-12.jpg
3. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-13.jpg
4. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-15.jpg
"Rubber-Like condensed flesh"
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AlphaFlightv191-03.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AlphaFlightv191-04.jpg
"Compact little body"
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/avengers_v1_322_13_rougher.jpg
"Genetic manipulation of cellular structure; Puck's tissues were condensed at a molecular level, causing his body to become akin to compressed rubber"
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/MasterEdition-01-PuckB.jpg
This is the dialogue from the scans... I don't see any mentioning of "compression"
Talisman - His Pain's incredible! How could anyone do this to another human being?
Shaman - For a perverse sense of pleasure -- or prehaps for the sake of a greater plan?
Talisman What kind of plan would require suck cruelty?
Puck - M-A-K-E -- M-A-T-E -- F-O-R -- M-A-R-I-N-N-A -- B-R-O-O-D -- M-A-K-E -- U-L-T-I-M-A-T-E -- W-A-R-R-I-O-R
Talisman - What kind of animal plays with lives like that
Shaman - Elizabeth. Someone who calls himself master of the world should not be expected to have compassion for living beings
Aurora - The madness of men such as zis can neither be explained or ignored
Walter - Well, Jeannie -- How about I do one but not the other? Come over here, gang.
Talisman - What is it Walter?
Walter - To the left... no the left -- more... more... Okay, Jeannie, Liz -- That's far enough -- What are your monitor boards showing.
?? - All system read nominal.
Aurora? - There are no changes in Eugene's biological readings Waltair
Shamna - All right then, we're ready. I only hope Eugene is as well.
Talisman - He knows what he's getting into dad.
Aura - Eugene - zis may be very dagerous to you mon ami. Your entire metabolic process will undergo a painful alterations
Walter - It's very similar in many ways to the process you under went years ago when I eliminated your mutagenic genes, Jean. * Heh heh. By interrupting Puck's D.N.A. Matric we'll be reactivating the scramble enzyme in his blood.
Walter - Theoretically the scramble - enzyme will rever Puck to a dwarf state which was it's active form. The change will be painfull -- and irreversibly for better or worse gene if this works you'll be a dwarf forever!
Puck - I -- K-N-O-W -- W-A-L-T -- I - H-A-V-E -- F-A-I-T-H -- I-N -- Y-O-U
Walter - Fourth and goal from the one. Let's go for it...
Walter - I think it's working!
Master - And I think it is time to end this...
Master - Blah blah blah
Walter - Uh-oh
Shaman - There must be hundreds of them!
Shaman - We cannot harm them -- they are innocent pawns of the master's madness!
Walter - Wait -- look at the casing tube --
Puck -- I'm back eh? Now lets make short work of this loser!!
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Walter - It's very similar in many ways to the process you under went years ago when I eliminated your mutagenic genes, Jean. * Heh heh. By interrupting Puck's D.N.A. Matric we'll be reactivating the scramble enzyme in his blood.Walter - Theoretically the scramble - enzyme will revert Puck to a dwarf state which was it's active form. The change will be painfull -- and irreversibly for better or worse gene if this works you'll be a dwarf forever!
Which go with these
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Even says that's why he is invulnerable as he was squished.1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-04.jpg
2. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-12.jpg
3. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-13.jpg
4. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/Alpha_Flight_v1_n089-15.jpg"Rubber-Like condensed flesh"
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AlphaFlightv191-03.jpg
2. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AlphaFlightv191-04.jpg"Compact little body"
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/avengers_v1_322_13_rougher.jpg"Genetic manipulation of cellular structure; Puck's tissues were condensed at a molecular level, causing his body to become akin to compressed rubber"
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/MasterEdition-01-PuckB.jpg
Honestly do I have find every quote saying his body was compact?
EDIT:
"...Sasquatch restored him using Scramble enzyme, through the process condensed into Dwarfism again,albeit with super powers" [Third paragraph down]
"Puck's compressed tissues give his body.." [Power listing]
1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/All-NewOfficialHandbookoftheMarv-1.jpg
I see and understand that Pucks body is/was condensed. Thats why his skin is rubber-like. I get that. What im trying to figure out, is where does it mention his insides being rubber-like as well? Sure it can be condensed like his outter, but still have the rubber-like invunerability? Id like to see that on panel.
Originally posted by jrodslam
I see and understand that Pucks body is/was condensed. Thats why his skin is rubber-like. I get that. What im trying to figure out, is where does it mention his insides being rubber-like as well? Sure it can be condensed like his outter, but still have the rubber-like invunerability? Id like to see that on panel.
????....His entire body as stated even in the scans were compressed. Here lets look at it simpler. Do you think you can have normal sized organs fit into a dwarf's body? Definetly not, it would literally kill him. Puck has shown to survive a 1000 ft fall with no damage, so to say only his skin is invulnerable is wrong. No where even in the scans say only his skin was condensed, they say his whole body.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
????....His entire body as stated even in the scans were compressed. Here lets look at it simpler. Do you think you can have normal sized organs fit into a dwarf's body? Definetly not, it would literally kill him. Puck has shown to survive a 1000 ft fall with no damage, so to say only his skin is invulnerable is wrong. No where even in the scans say only his skin was condensed, they say his whole body.
His body being compressed creates that hard rubber-like skin, due to him being much taller. His organs condensed would be nothing like his skin being condensed. A regular dwarfs organs arent much different in size from a regular mans. The difference is minimal. The skin however, is much different. His organs may be slightly tougher than a normal mans, but it in no way means its as tough as his outer skin. Ok so he survived a 1000 ft fall with no damage. His insides could be as regular as yours and mine, but if his outer skin is hard and rubber-like, it wouldnt effect his insides whatsoever due to it being protected by his outer body.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
????....His entire body as stated even in the scans were compressed. Here lets look at it simpler. Do you think you can have normal sized organs fit into a dwarf's body? Definetly not, it would literally kill him. Puck has shown to survive a 1000 ft fall with no damage, so to say only his skin is invulnerable is wrong. No where even in the scans say only his skin was condensed, they say his whole body.
Have you ever heard of the 'egg drop' competitions?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
????....His entire body as stated even in the scans were compressed. Here lets look at it simpler. Do you think you can have normal sized organs fit into a dwarf's body? Definetly not, it would literally kill him. Puck has shown to survive a 1000 ft fall with no damage, so to say only his skin is invulnerable is wrong. No where even in the scans say only his skin was condensed, they say his whole body.
Actually, while dwarfs (little people? I think that's the 'PC' term these days) can suffer from restricted organ growth due to the shrunken thoracic cavity, all (or most, I'm no expert) types of dwarfism are SKELETAL diseases. The size of the organs are unaffected, or are minimally affected.
Originally posted by jrodslam
His body being compressed creates that hard rubber-like skin, due to him being much taller. His organs condensed would be nothing like his skin being condensed. A regular dwarfs organs arent much different in size from a regular mans. The difference is minimal. The skin however, is much different. His organs may be slightly tougher than a normal mans, but it in no way means its as tough as his outer skin. Ok so he survived a 1000 ft fall with no damage. His insides could be as regular as yours and mine, but if his outer skin is hard and rubber-like, it wouldnt effect his insides whatsoever due to it being protected by his outer body.
Incorrect, so basically his entire connective tissues, skeletal structure, basically his entire body was compressed but not his organs? *snickers* Yeah they are, especially compared to a to a over 6 person to a 3'6" which Puck was. Actually they would as the sheer force of the fall would rattle his organs basically making his organs mush as his skin couldn't absorb the entire kinetic energy. Even a sudden stop in velocity can kill people without even hitting the ground due to organs basically becoming ruptured from the sudden change of force ie. Gwen Stacy effect
Originally posted by Soljer
Actually, while dwarfs (little people? I think that's the 'PC' term these days) can suffer from restricted organ growth due to the shrunken thoracic cavity, all (or most, I'm no expert) types of dwarfism are SKELETAL diseases. The size of the organs are unaffected, or are minimally affected.
No it can be organs as well, generally skeletal in different forms is common. Huh? That's not true, such as if people have an overgrown heart or an undergrown heart they can die from it.
Originally posted by King_MungiNo it can be organs as well, generally skeletal in different forms is common. Huh? That's not true, such as if people have an overgrown heart or an undergrown heart they can die from it.
I'm certainly not aware of said type of dwarfism - do you know the medical nomenclature? The only types I've ever heard of are bone disorders. The only affect that said disorder can have on the organs is due to the shrunken thoracic cavity and skull - and it doesn't happen in all cases, only some.
Further; where did I indicate that someone could not die from having organs too large or too small. I was merely pointing out that the affect that dwarfism has on organs is minimal at best, and is entirely indirect in nature.
