Originally posted by golem370
Spider-Man vs X-Men
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That was ages ago. Wolverine has had fights since then were he has done better. I wish somebody could scan the whole fights though.........
Originally posted by jrodslam
Where is it shown that Black Tarantula is a MA expert? Besides a handbok where we take what they say with a grain of salt.
1 His bio states that he is.
AND.
2. http://img414.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsspider2k0sa.jpg
Its stated that every one who becomes BT must train, I would assume that would include martial arts. I would assume that is one of the reasons why he beat Spiderman so easily.
Originally posted by Alfheim
1 His bio states that he is.AND.
2. http://img414.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vsspider2k0sa.jpg
Its stated that every one who becomes BT must train, I would assume that would include martial arts. I would assume that is one of the reasons why he beat Spiderman so easily.
Not sure if you fully read my post.
Where on panel/in a comic, shows that hes a martial arts expert. Bios are often wrong regarding many characters stats.
Secondly, if everyone who becomes BT must train, we dont know to what extent. Definately not enough to say that hes an expert. Also, he didnt beat Spiderman easily. I will say that once he grabbed Spidey it was pretty much a wrap after that.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Not sure if you fully read my post.
Where on panel/in a comic, shows that hes a martial arts expert. Bios are often wrong regarding many characters stats.Secondly, if everyone who becomes BT must train, we dont know to what extent. Definately not enough to say that hes an expert.
Yes I know you said that...again here are my reasons.
1. His bio states it....but that is not enough on its own this is further confirmed by the fact that:
a) He had to train and probably included MA
b) He beat Spiderman really easily not everybody who is superhuman can beat Spiderman like that. I would assume that since its been stated that hes trained and he beat Spiderman with ease that this partially due to his training as opposed to Venom who beats Spiderman but has not had any training.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Also, he didnt beat Spiderman easily. I will say that once he grabbed Spidey it was pretty much a wrap after that.
Yes he did he wanst even trying.you can clearly see in their second fight he could have killed Spiderman straight away but settled for dslocating his shoulder.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It was said on panel in Daredevil that BT has a "healing ability" that makes him diffcult to take down. He was also shown to be vulnerable to bullets recently (while he was bullet proof in the past) so it is possible that his durability was traded in for a healing factor.
Well there you go then. When was he shown vulnerable to bullets.
Originally posted by AlfheimNeither is BT, so that's irrelevant.
None of those guys are martial art experts...thats the point your missing.
Originally posted by AlfheimI've seen Daredeil tag Spider-Man. Is Daredevil much faster?
He is much faster than Spiderman because he had no trouble tagging him. Spiderman is faster than Wolverine but not more skillful if Spiderman was a top tier martial artist he would give Wolverine alot of trouble now imagine somebody who is even faster than Spiderman. Hell Mister X almost killed Wolverine all BT needs to do is get him into a choke hold.
Bt = tp tier martial arts expert? 😂
Hell, I reckon I've seen better h2h feats from Gambit...
Originally posted by AlfheimIt's illogical to think that it will do anything other than prolong his death. 🙂
He can heal people by touch and his bio says that he has a HF. Its not illogical to think that he can touch himself and heal
Originally posted by AlfheimSure, you could debate it. You'd still be clearly wrong, but you could do it.
Thats debetable....
Originally posted by AlfheimHistory shows he'd favor a h2h fight with a melee fighter. Spider-Man wouldn't take it to h2h normally, so he logically would use ranged attacks against him. Pretty basic logic, and CIS.
Why wouldnt he use it? He used it against Spiderman...
Originally posted by AlfheimActually, using feats, I can... unless you've seen Black Tarantula demonstrate the level of Logan...
You cant prove that he is superior in skill and endurance. Just because he has more combat experience doesnt neccesraily make him better, look at Thor 100s of years of combat experience and he still sucks.
Originally posted by AlfheimFirstly, that's bullshit. Secondly, he's not an MA expert.
His healing is probably more efiicient but an MA expert at class 25 could probably literially make his punches as powerful as class 100.
Originally posted by AlfheimTruth, CIS, and logic dictate it.
Why do you keep saying that?
Originally posted by AlfheimBT isn't faster than Spider-Man, and he's not an MA expert... Wolverine could drop him LONG before Wolverine would be dropped.
Speed Demon? Not a martial expert if he was he would have probably dropped Wolverine. Wolverine was getting punched all over but because he was more skillful Wolverine won. BT is fatser than Spiderman and miles more skillful than Speed Demon.
Originally posted by AlfheimHe definitely does, until further notice.
You dont know wether he has greater endurance a more efficient HF...probably.
Originally posted by AlfheimLulz.
He was holding back...he could have killed Spiderman in 1 second falt but just dislocated his shoulder instead also he had to fight giant robots and guys with guns...and also Spiderman was packing extra weapons. 😬
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes I know you said that...again here are my reasons.1. His bio states it....but that is not enough on its own this is further confirmed by the fact that:
a) He had to train and probably included MA
b) He beat Spiderman really easily not everybody who is superhuman can beat Spiderman like that. I would assume that since its been stated that hes trained and he beat Spiderman with ease that this partially due to his training as opposed to Venom who beats Spiderman but has not had any training.Yes he did he wanst even trying.you can clearly see in their second fight he could have killed Spiderman straight away but settled for dslocating his shoulder.
Again, him training does not make him a MA expert. At all. He hasnt shown us anything that suggests that. At all. And again, he didnt beat Spidey easily. Only after he grabbed Spidey was when it got easy. Hell, the only attack Spidey even tried was webbing him up. You also mention that he wasnt trying against Spidey? Which fight was this? What comic was their second fight in?
Originally posted by KK the Great
The hell do you think he was trained in, exactly?Business ethics?
it pritty sad that you said his MA ability was comparable to logan when this guy has no feats and Logan consider on of the best MA fighters on earth.
Originally posted by KK the Great
I'm sorry, but training is *exactly* how one becomes an MA expert.
you can train and not be an MA expert.
Also Logans training>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BT
Originally posted by KK the Great
The hell do you think he was trained in, exactly?Business ethics?
Because youre the BT fan, maybe YOU can explain what areas of combat he was trained in. Every time ive seen BT train in a comic, it was lifting weights. Only one time did i see him training in fighting against MA's and it wasnt even shown what he did on panel. All im asking is proof of his martial arts expertise.
