Originally posted by Battlehammer
completely agree.His arguement is rediculous
Let's be very clear, here.
Your argument is that Carlos was taken from his mother as a toddler to begin his training, and his whole life was devoted to it until he took up the mantle of Black Tarantula--but he was never taught how to fight--in spite of combat being a major part of what the Black Tarantula is all about.
Originally posted by KK the Great
Let's be very clear, here.Your argument is that Carlos was taken from his mother as a toddler to begin his training, and his whole life was devoted to it until he took up the mantle of Black Tarantula--but he was never taught how to fight--in spite of combat being a major part of what the Black Tarantula is all about.
And the champion is supposedly the best fighter in the Universe. 😬.
Where are the feats?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
how it poor writing that wolverien dodged scots blast? it well with his his ability and scots character for somethign like that it happen. Ya scot could have taken off hsi visor and killed his wife, capt and every one else. also scot used his skill with aim, but Logan was to fast to be hit. You can have all the aim in the world, but if the person can dodge your attacks your screwed.
So you argument is that Wolverine can dodge Cyke's blasts when there are a bunch of other people around and he has to use pencil-thin blasts.
Therefore Black Tarantula would only use pencil-thin blasts?
Your line of logic is missing a step or twelve.
actaully if you look the first scann has the title in it...........mean it was the first scann of the issue and oh look spiderman injured already
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Originally posted by KK the Great
So you argument is that Wolverine can dodge Cyke's blasts when there are a bunch of other people around and he has to use pencil-thin blasts.Therefore Black Tarantula would only use pencil-thin blasts?
...........BT can't control the size of his eye blasts so yoru intire arguement is point less.
Your actaing like BT has the same ability as scot with his blasts but he doesent
For my post I will be referring to Black Tarantula as BT most of the time, just because I am being lazy. Just so there no confusion
People have been saying Black tarantula beats Wolverine (some have gone so far as to laugh at the idea of Logan winning). There reasoning is due to BT beating Spiderman.
The problem with that kind of abc logic is the fact that Logan and Spiderman have similar, but also very different attributes. BT is effective against Spiderman due to the fact he strong enough to rip through the webbing and is durable enough to shrug off Spiderman’s assaults’ while still being fast enough to get a hold of Spiderman. This makes him a very dangerous foe for Spiderman to face.
These however are not attributes that are effective verse Logan. Logan is made to take down individuals with inhuman durability. Logan’s claws simply bypass there durability. Logan’s healing factor allows for him to take any sort of punishment presented to him.
Just because a character can defeat Spiderman does not mean he can defeat Logan and vice versa due to there different attributes.
Also from what has been view by BT fights with Spiderman he is not overly agile. He likely not even as agile as Logan and from what has been seen of his combat speed he also not as quick as Spiderman is. Meaning Logan will have little trouble hitting him. Logan may even have the speed edge. Logan is also able to take far more punches from BT then BT could take stabs from Logan.
BT when facing Logan is facing an opponent who vastly his superior in skill, that is not the case when facing Spiderman.
Also some of being saying he will use his range abilities. True he may use them, but due to cis as soon as Logan makes it clear he wishes to fight in melee combat, BT will fallow suit. Also BT range attacks are no capable of putting Logan down as we have seen and if Logan wished to he could simply dodge them as show below.
Wolverine reacting to Scots optic blasts, that as fast if not faster. Scot also has with out a doubt superior aim to BT to date.
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Originally posted by Battlehammer
...........BT can't control the size of his eye blasts so yoru intire arguement is point less.
Your actaing like BT has the same ability as scot with his blasts but he doesent
You keep talking about this like Scott's aim is what sets him apart. He's good because he has the skill to do crazy bank shots and things like that.
But they're eyeblasts. As far as plain straight-shot aim goes...
THEY'RE EYEBLASTS.
They go where you're looking.
still waiting to see why BT wins. also I not entirly sure that was BT makeing his eye blast bigger or rather the light given off by it impacted.
either way does not really change any thing. since It can and will be dodged. It not very powerful as shown it only destroyed a few bricks at best nothing that would even come close to Koing Logan.
also you keep ignore one of my posts..........over and over
I have three things to say about this thread.
1) What kind of crazyass quizzes someone in PMs?
2) Wolverine has like the least consistent speed and reflexes in all of Marvel. Sometimes he can apparently see bullets in slow motion or block gunfire with his claws and sometimes he can't even avoid getting webbed up, pushed out a window, or kicked in the face by an elk. I know I've brought this up before and I've been told "he wasn't ready" or something to that effect, but that's sort of where those gun blocking reflexes were supposed to show up.
3) Reflecting optic blasts with a katana is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. I hope that was at least a magic sword.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I have three things to say about this thread.1) What kind of crazyass quizzes someone in PMs?
2) Wolverine has like the least consistent speed and reflexes in all of Marvel. Sometimes he can apparently see bullets in slow motion or block gunfire with his claws and sometimes he can't even avoid getting webbed up, pushed out a window, or kicked in the face by an elk. I know I've brought this up before and I've been told "he wasn't ready" or something to that effect, but that's sort of where those gun blocking reflexes were supposed to show up.
3) Reflecting optic blasts with a katana is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. I hope that was at least a magic sword.
avoid being web up? you mean while he talking..........and has his claws in........ya great evidence there.
Thrown out a window? when he laughing and a teammate for no reason goes pycho. Ya Logan going to be ready for that to happen lol.
your examples are rediculous.
As for the elk one was inorder to see how much his student had learned if you read the issue you know that.
It was magical.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Thrown out a window? when he laughing and a teammate for no reason goes pycho. Ya Logan going to be ready for that to happen lol.
If he's a trained warrior with reflexes that allow him to see bullets in flight it shouldn't matter if he ready or not as long as he's facing toward him.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If he's a trained warrior with reflexes that allow him to see bullets in flight it shouldn't matter if he ready or not as long as he's facing toward him.
Not really. If you have your hands on your hips and laughing and have no reason to assume your teamate will attack you all the training in the world means crap.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Not really. If you have your hands on your hips and laughing and have no reason to assume your teamate will attack you all the training in the world means crap.
But being able to see bullets sure as hell would. Example:
"hahahahaha" Hey look his fist is moving slowly toward me! Maybe I should move, it's not even close to the speed that a bullet would be going at. I mean geeze it's like he's in fuking molasses.
*wolvie steps a tiny bit to the side*
"So, what was with the punch? You know I can dodge bullets right?"
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But being able to see bullets sure as hell would. Example:"hahahahaha" Hey look his fist is moving slowly toward me! Maybe I should move, it's not even close to the speed that a bullet would be going at. I mean geeze it's like he's in fuking molasses.
*wolvie steps a tiny bit to the side*
"So, what was with the punch? You know I can dodge bullets right?"
Ya That work if the person swing at you was not as fast as you are.........you know spiderman dodges and view bullets in slow motion as well...........
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Ya That work if the person swing at you was not as fast as you are.........you know spiderman dodges and view bullets in slow motion as well...........
Spidey sense. He's not moving at near mach speeds, he's reacting before the trigger is pulled because he unconsciously knows it's going to happen. That doesn't translate into offensive speed.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Spidey sense. He's not moving at near mach speeds, he's reacting before the trigger is pulled because he unconsciously knows it's going to happen. That doesn't translate into offensive speed.
actaully thats false. He has reacted after it has been fired on a number of occassions.
so no your wrong.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Not really. If you have your hands on your hips and laughing and have no reason to assume your teamate will attack you all the training in the world means crap.
