Originally posted by carver9
Going by your logic everyone in comics can go faster than the speed of light.
Only people who have FTL showings.
Originally posted by carver9
*Thor flown from earth to the moon in 1 panel and knocked the hell out of surfer.
There was no time-frame.
It takes light less than 2 seconds to reach the Moon from the Earth.
Originally posted by carver9
*Iron man kept up with sentry and flew from earth to the sun in 2 panels.
No time-frame.
Also, IIRC, Iron Man stayed somewhere near the Earth while Sentry flew to the Sun, alone.
Originally posted by carver9
* Ms. marvel flew from earth to the skrull planet in like 5 panels and the skrulls is almost a solar system away.
She's faster than light.
Originally posted by carver9
* Vulcan flew from earth to the shiar empire in less then a week and the shiar IS in another solar system, so that means that vulcan can move 1000's of times the speed of light.
He's faster than light.
Originally posted by carver9
* Nova flew from earth to the moon in two panels.
No time-frame given.
And again, unless you reach the Moon in less than two seconds, you're not faster than light.
Originally posted by carver9
* Rogue traveled from earth 2 the moon in 2 panels and she has also flown with surfer.
No time-frame given.
And, you didn't state speed Surfer was moving at when Rouge was keeping up.
Originally posted by carver9
I dont think that any of these people could go react or go anywhere near the speed of light
Even though some of them have showings that put them above light-speed...
Originally posted by carver9
But I see it like this, if your using superman intergalactic flight feats then I also think that you should use other heros
That is what people should be doing.
Originally posted by carver9
vulcan speed>>>>>>>>>>>anything superman has ever recently done.
Vulcan took more than a week to reach another solar system/Galaxy.
Superman has flown back from another solar system in a matter of minutes, and he flew to another Galaxy in a couple of hours, at most.
Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator speed>>>>>>>>>>>>>>almost anything superman have recently done since he has flown further and done it faster.
Gladiator's best speed feat is flying several light-years in minutes (or was it seconds?), that's similar to Superman's feat in Countdown and IC.
Originally posted by carver9
Nova>>>>>superman since he travels through space and make it places in a small difference of time.
Flying light-years in minutes>flying from the Earth to the Moon
Originally posted by carver9
So all of the above can speed blitz superman, which I dont think that they could do.
Most of them could keep up with him .
Originally posted by carver9
Space dont take away from your speed, if theres no gravity weighing you down, you should be able to move tremendously fast.
Things accelerate when in space, but don't simply reach the speed of light because they're in space.
Originally posted by carver9
You just dont get it do you, like I said before, vulcan must can move waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster then the speed of light since he flown to another solar system in less then a week IN SPACE, let me type it again, IN SPACE, IN SPACE, IN SPACE.
He's FTL.
Originally posted by carver9
Vulcan earth speed feats suck. He has no light speed reaction.
Because in comics, characters aren't always operating at 100%.
Originally posted by carver9
Iron flown from the earth to the sun in two panels, IN SPACE, WHERE THERE IS NO GRAVITY, but on earth his speed feats suck and we all know that he cant go anywhere near the speed of light.
There was no time-frame given.
Originally posted by carver9
Do you not understand that its a comic, it was meant for superboy prime to go down like that, that was basically the only way to bring him down.
Or, certain characters could have just simulated red sun radiation while everyone else just beat the hell out of him.
Originally posted by carver9
Do you think that they would waste space and time drawing out superman or any other character flying to this planet to the other instead of just using a couple of panels to do it.
Doesn't matter how many panels it took for them to reach Rao. They reached Rao faster than anything moving at the speed of light could.
Originally posted by carver9
Ok, this is something else to think about. Flash is considered the fastest being in dc. Flash has a power called the speed force. In order to bring this power into surface he has to go the speed of light. This feat takes time for flash to do. So since flash is the fastest being in dc and his top speed is the speed of light, anything faster brings up the speed force, but you all are showing me space flight where you are presuming that superman is going way above the speed of light, Im guessing that superman is faster then the flash.
What the hell are you talking about?
It doesn't take a long time time for Flash to reach the speed of light.
He reached the speed of light or moved faster than light in an issue of JLA classified.
And Flash's top speed isn't the speed of light. He's moved faster than light on several occasions.
Originally posted by carver9
Who dont read superman comics but that dont have anything to do with it.
A lot of people don't read Superman comics, and you're obviously one of them.
Originally posted by carver9
If you are using superman going through space as a speed feat, then you should use it for the rest of the characters.
That's what people do.
You should know, you almost always bring up Gladiator moving a 100 times the speed of light.
Originally posted by carver9
classic rogue
Scans?
Originally posted by carver9
iron man
Scans?
Originally posted by carver9
Writers say that he goes the speed of sound
Here you say that a writer states he moves at the speed of sound, then later you say a writer stated he can move at 2000mps.
Stop contradicting yourself.
Originally posted by carver9
on panel feats dont say that he goes the speed of light
Except the time he escaped from a black hole, and the time he was stated to bale to race a photon to it's target.
Originally posted by carver9
like when flash is running and the narrator says how fast he going.
It isn't always stated at what speed the Flash is moving at.
Originally posted by carver9
The sad thing about the superman prime feat is that when both of the superman flew to oa to catch up with superboy prime, they had other hero's behind them
Only Power Girl, and Martian Manhunter.
Originally posted by carver9
so that mean that almost everyone that was flying with superman can go faster than the speed of light.
Yeah, I guess that the two characters that were flying alongside Kal-El and Kal-L, are faster than light.
Originally posted by carver9
Your logic dont make any sense.
Of course.
You got to be an idiot to think that someone is faster than light, just because they reached a certain place in less time that it takes light to reach the same place.
Count Nefaria - 20, 000
Sentry - 100, 000
Captain Marvel (DC) - 1000
Black Adam - 600
Thor - 15, 000
Wonder Woman - 101
Superboy (Conner) - 100
Superboy/man Prime - 700
Squadron Supreme Hyperion - 80, 000
Supreme Power Hyperion - 100, 200
All-Star Superman - 300
King Hyperion - ∞
Immortal Hercules - 15, 000
Classic Juggernaut - 20, 000
Big Dumb Drax - 13, 000
Morg - 11, 000
Gladiator - 18, 000
Wonder Man - 9000
Just cus it's been mentioned a lot I'd just like to point out that there is tons of gravity in space. What do you think holds the earth in the suns orbit or holds galaxies together. All the things that seem to just "float" in space are just in orbit around something. Also, technically, gravity on earth or any surface doesnt' effect your flight speed much if you're just going straight. gravity pulls you down at a 90 degree angle to moving forward so it doesnt' effect your forward movement, as long as you're strong enough to hover, you can go forward with whatever propulsion you have. (hope i'm not being to scientific about comic books. just thought it should be mentioned)
What helps in space is the lack of air resistance. Hasn't it also been stated that superman and such don't move at such fast speeds on earth because of the shockwave they'd make destroying things around them?
Who in the hell thinks supes is many times FTL is crazy as hell or high on drugs, I HAVE over 1000 comics and my brother has more than me, There is not a single book that says supes has ever moved that fast, There will be no scans that SAY HE IS MOVING THAT FAST.....PERIOD!! SS,GLADIATOR and many more has done it and can be shown CLEARLY without any doubt that they moved that fast..when glads hit 100 times lightspeed it never said that it was his top speed, IF anyone of supes fanboys can show me any scan of supes being anywhere close to gladiator or silver sufers speed I WILL JUMP THROUGH THIS COMPUTER AND KISS HIS OR HER AZZ WITH A SUPERMAN SUIT ON!!!
Originally posted by james2099
Who in the hell thinks supes is many times FTL is crazy as hell or high on drugs, I HAVE over 1000 comics and my brother has more than me, There is not a single book that says supes has ever moved that fast, There will be no scans that SAY HE IS MOVING THAT FAST.....PERIOD!! SS,GLADIATOR and many more has done it and can be shown CLEARLY without any doubt that they moved that fast..when glads hit 100 times lightspeed it never said that it was his top speed, IF anyone of supes fanboys can show me any scan of supes being anywhere close to gladiator or silver sufers speed I WILL JUMP THROUGH THIS COMPUTER AND KISS HIS OR HER AZZ WITH A SUPERMAN SUIT ON!!!
I was reading all star superman and saw him pressing /exerting 200 quintillion tons with one hand without much effort after his power was boosted by the UBERsolar absrobtion , it was also stated that his strength has increased bya a fctor of three at least
therefore we can roughly gauge normal superman's strength to be roughly a third of 400 (200 each hand) quintillion tons...... thats a frickin awesome 133.3 quintiullion tons or 66.66 quintillion tons each hand !
Originally posted by ankur29
I was reading all star superman and saw him pressing /exerting 200 quintillion tons with one hand without much effort after his power was boosted by the UBERsolar absrobtion , it was also stated that his strength has increased bya a fctor of three at leasttherefore we can roughly gauge normal superman's strength to be roughly a third of 400 (200 each hand) quintillion tons...... thats a frickin awesome 133.3 quintiullion tons or 66.66 quintillion tons each hand !
Go max on dumbbell bench.
Now go max on flat bench. Notice anything?
Originally posted by Soljer
Go max on dumbbell bench.Now go max on flat bench. Notice anything?
ithere is definately a difference, but unsure whcih way it goes in
i can dumbell bench more i believe , i can do 50kg bench and 24kg each hand with effort but not 26 kg whcih is too hard , maybe this is different for me but using my calcultaions whcih was onlya rough estimate
supe can lift/press/exert roughly 140 quintillion tons!!!!!!
a quintillion is a million quadrillions (10^30); (American & French) a thousand quadrillions (10^18).
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/dictionaries/difficultwords/data/d0010806.html
based on that everyone in DC who are said to be close to superman are hundreds of times stronger than charecters form marvel!
Superman displays what is possibly the most impressive strength feat to date, by pushing against the equivelent of 200 Quintillion tons (with one arm).
The scientist estimates his strength more than tripled:
Originally posted by ankur29
ithere is definately a difference, but unsure whcih way it goes in
i can dumbell bench more i believe , i can do 50kg bench and 24kg each hand with effort but not 26 kg whcih is too hard , maybe this is different for me but using my calcultaions whcih was onlya rough estimatesupe can lift/press/exter roughly 140 quintillion tons!!!!!!
a quintillion is a million quadrillions (10^30); (American & French) a thousand quadrillions (10^18).
based on that everyone in DC who are said to be close to superman are hundreds of times stronger than charecters form marvel!
In a round about way, The writers express that themselves. Even Dan jurgens said Superman was millions of times more powerful than Thor.
Originally posted by ankur29
ithere is definately a difference, but unsure whcih way it goes in
i can dumbell bench more i believe , i can do 50kg bench and 24kg each hand with effort but not 26 kg whcih is too hard , maybe this is different for me but using my calcultaions whcih was onlya rough estimatesupe can lift/press/exert roughly 140 quintillion tons!!!!!!
a quintillion is a million quadrillions (10^30); (American & French) a thousand quadrillions (10^18).
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/dictionaries/difficultwords/data/d0010806.htmlbased on that everyone in DC who are said to be close to superman are hundreds of times stronger than charecters form marvel!
Superman displays what is possibly the most impressive strength feat to date, by pushing against the equivelent of 200 Quintillion tons (with one arm).
The scientist estimates his strength more than tripled:
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
In a round about way, The writers express that themselves. Even Dan jurgens said Superman was millions of times more powerful than Thor.
You do know that Jurgens said that he was joking when he said that, right?
http://www.comicboards.com/superman/view.php?trd=040224024110
Originally posted by Silent Master
You do know that Jurgens said that he was joking when he said that, right?http://www.comicboards.com/superman/view.php?trd=040224024110
regardless thor/herc or any other marvel powerhouse is no way near as strong enough to lift quintillions of tons! (CM /BA & ww can obviuolsy lift a few dozen quintillion aswell now thati ahve established superman can lift 140 Quintillion tons) they would would be lucky if they could actually lift ONE MILLION tons! seriously !
