ROTS anakin vs siddious

This is when anakin finds out he is a sith and draws his lightsaber, and instead of siddious making love to his ear with promises of saving padme, siddious draws his lightsaber and they have an all out battle . GO!!!!

Well, Anakin already had his saber like two inches away from Sidious's chest, so if Sidious tried to draw his saber, Anakin would probably have just stabbed him... if Sidious managed to get away from the blade, though, he could probably take Anakin, but I doubt he could beat Anakin in a saber duel, he'd have to use the Force.

Sidious by a long shot. The dark lord bested Yoda, who was more powerful than Anakin at the time.

I thought it was a stalemate with Yoda having the upper hand. Meybe your reffering to Yoda retreating but in the fight when Yoda was about to deflect the lightning Sidious had that "Oh ****" look in his eyes.

But on topic.

If by any means Sidious got far enough to activate his lightsabre it could either way......in a sword fight. If this were in an all out fight Sidious would wtf pwn Anakin.......especially in the senate chamber.

No, it wasn't a stalemate, Sidious simply won the fight. It explain in detail in the RotS novel that Yoda simply couldn't beat him.

Is the novel even canon? But I guess I could say your right because Yoda would not have retreated if he felt he could take him. But it's not like Sidious was on a whole other level than Yoda. Besides IMO Yoda>Sidious in lightsaber combat.

Novel are very much canon and especially novels based on movies.

The reason Yoda retreated was because he knew he would die if he kept fighting Sidious, so he ran knowing that he was no good to anyone dead.

I don't think so. Yoda and Sidious I believe are stated as equals. I don't remember the source, but ask anyone on this forums. They won't disagree.

No they aren't. Its stated that Yoda simply did not have the ability to defeat Sids, and that there was no way he could have won.

I think in pure saber fight(with no talking allowed) Anakin would win, but in this scenario, Sidious can break him mentally, he knows all of his deepest secrets, not to even mention his Force mastery. Anakin goes down.

Like several others have said, I think a lot of this depends on whether or not Sidious has time to make his move. During that scene, Anakin was very close to Sidious. If Sidious attempted to attack, Anakin very well might be able to simply make a small movement and get rid of him right then and there.

Now, if Sidious has time to draw his saber, and it remains nothing but a saber battle, Anakin could probably take it. However, if we bring the Force into this, I'm pretty confident that Anakin will get the crap knocked out of him. He has a lot of raw power, but Sidious has both raw power and a much greater mastery over a far wider range of techniques.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
The reason Yoda retreated was because he knew he would die if he kept fighting Sidious, so he ran knowing that he was no good to anyone dead.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
No they aren't. Its stated that Yoda simply did not have the ability to defeat Sids, and that there was no way he could have won.

Untrue. Yoda had both a limited time and a disadvantage of position the entire fight. He could have killed Sidious, just as Sidious could have killed him. It was merely the surroundings and circumstances of the fight which forced Yoda to retreat.

What do you mean on "surroundings and circumstances", elaborte if you will please.

Untrue. Yoda had both a limited time and a disadvantage of position the entire fight. He could have killed Sidious, just as Sidious could have killed him. It was merely the surroundings and circumstances of the fight which forced Yoda to retreat.

Not according to any source I've seen. It is stated across the board that Yoda had no chance of winning, that he lost the fight before it even began.

How's that if Sidious was in fear for his life "before the fight even began". Besides it can be believed that Yoda was too powerful for Sidious saber-wise which concludes why he resorted pod-chuckling.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Untrue. Yoda had both a limited time and a disadvantage of position the entire fight. He could have killed Sidious, just as Sidious could have killed him. It was merely the surroundings and circumstances of the fight which forced Yoda to retreat.

Not according to any source I've seen. It is stated across the board that Yoda had no chance of winning, that he lost the fight before it even began.

Exactly he was destined to lose-From the ROTS novel-He had lost before he started.

It came when the avatar of light resolved into the lineage of the Jedi; when the lineage of the Jedi refined into one single Jedi.It came when Yoda found himself alone against the dark.In that lightning-speared tornado of feet and fists and blades and bashing machines, his vision finally pierced the darkness that had clouded the Force.Finally, he saw the truth.This truth: that he, the avatar of light, Supreme Master of the Jedi Order, the fiercest, most implacable, most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known... just-didn't-have it.He'd never had it. He had lost before he started.

Not what it looked like in the movie.

We don't know what the exact reason he was running for. It could be for his life or it could be he wanted a different field to duel on. And since the quotes don't actually contradict the movie they are canon and yoda had no chance to win.

EDIT: furthermore it would not matter if Sidious was running from Yda because he was destined by the force to win once the duel actually started.