ROTS anakin vs siddious

He would have killed Sidious if Yoda had not fallen of the pod.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
He would have killed Sidious if Yoda had not fallen of the pod.

No he wouldn't The force was on Sidious's side no matter what had happened Sidious was destined to win and yoda was destined lose. See my quote from the novel on the last page. And it did not contradict the movie so it is a canon statement.All the quotes are doing it putting words and describing what was happening in the movie. And the canon quotes>your opinion of the duel.

Yoda clearly had the upper hand in the movie. He was just dodging the pods because it was not in his nature to use offensive Force powers. I'm not arguing that Sidious>Yoda in offensive force powers but Yoda had the upper hand.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Yoda clearly had the upper hand in the movie. He was just dodging the pods because it was not in his nature to use offensive Force powers. I'm not arguing that Sidious>Yoda in offensive force powers but Yoda had the upper hand.

Dodging pods does not= the upper hand. In fact because was in a position that he had to dodge the pods in the first place,Sidious was in control of the duel there. Sidious at the point also had the high ground and we see later how important the high ground is.

I was simply reffering to on how we can deduce that Yoda was too much for Sidious in sabers so he switched to the Force, and how Yoda was able to reflect Sidious' lightning. If the fight had continued and neither of them fell Yoda would have won IMO.

I was simply reffering to on how we can deduce that Yoda was too much for Sidious in sabers so he switched to the Force, and how Yoda was able to reflect Sidious' lightning.

How can we deduce that at all? For all you know Sidous resorted to throwing pods because he wanted Yoda dead so much that he began using the force instead of waiting to get back in saber distance.

If the fight had continued and neither of them fell Yoda would have won IMO.

But in reality he was going to lose no matter what.

I only go by what the movies show cause that's the definative GL version.

I only go by what the movies show cause that's the definative GL version.

And the movies show Yoda on the defensive the entire time getting stomped by a laughing, clearly superior Palpatine.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
I only go by what the movies show cause that's the definative GL version.

And you go by your opinion and interpretation of the movies and as I said there is NO contradiction in the ROTS novel because it is describing the fight there is no contradiction in the quotes I have provided you and what we see in the movie.

Stomped? How was Yoda getting stomped, if anything Yoda was winning but fell due to his small size. Yoda was calm but Sidious was scared as ****.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
.Not according to any source I've seen. It is stated across the board that Yoda had no chance of winning, that he lost the fight before it even began.

Well, I would like you to give us a link to the source please, because that seems very unlikely and you won't even bother to build an acceptable arguement.

^ u did read my quote(even though ur not addressing it) from the ROTS novel right it says yoda lost before it even started.

Originally posted by Darth Hord
^ u did read my quote(even though ur not addressing it) from the ROTS novel right it says yoda lost before it even started.

Oh, yes, yes, I will not deny that. I know Yoda lost before it even started, but not because he was inferior, merely because of the circumstances of the match.

Originally posted by 0°Mandalore°0
Oh, yes, yes, I will not deny that. I know Yoda lost before it even started, but not because he was inferior, but because of the circumstances.

That is what facistcrusaders "quote" included "circumstances" he will have to give you the source because im not familiar with it. and btw i posted my above comment before u edited yours withand you won't even bother to build an acceptable arguement.

Okay. Fine, then I'll ask him to give me the source.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Well, Anakin already had his saber like two inches away from Sidious's chest, so if Sidious tried to draw his saber, Anakin would probably have just stabbed him... if Sidious managed to get away from the blade, though, he could probably take Anakin, but I doubt he could beat Anakin in a saber duel, he'd have to use the Force.

But is says in the title of this thread, that Sidious has already drawn his saber.

Okay. Fine, then I'll ask him to give me the source

Did you not see this?

It came when the avatar of light resolved into the lineage of the Jedi; when the lineage of the Jedi refined into one single Jedi.It came when Yoda found himself alone against the dark.In that lightning-speared tornado of feet and fists and blades and bashing machines, his vision finally pierced the darkness that had clouded the Force.Finally, he saw the truth.This truth: that he, the avatar of light, Supreme Master of the Jedi Order, the fiercest, most implacable, most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known... just-didn't-have it.He'd never had it. He had lost before he started.

See the bolded part. Circumstance had nothing to do with it, he lost because he didn't have the power to defeat Sidious.

And that's one writer's opinion. 😗

Originally posted by Darth Martin
And that's one writer's opinion. 😗

And it is being told through from the point of view of the narrator not from a character's view and if GL did not agree with the statement it would not be in the book or could have been deemed by now non canon but since it has not been the statement it canon you can't pick and choose what if the statement is canon and if it isn't from the novel just because it works in your argument. Which is what it sounds like you are doing.

That's one book. the movie is the definative version of Lucas himself. Whether Yoda lost to begin with we don't know, but the movie(something you can visualy witness) shows it a bittt different IMO.