Originally posted by Kutulu
Bruce Banner is not a mutant.
see, that kind of exploration of his power would be a really satisfying read. not that smashing a Watcher wouldn't be cool, in a brief thrill kind of way, just that it wouldn't be as interesting as watching him do stuff you know he should be able to but never has quite gotten around to or develop/further expand his powers 'logically'.
I'd like to see him begin leaping from planet to planet, like he did when on Sakaar's moon. that would be the foundations for some - brief - cosmic shenannigans, imo... leaping into space taking on heralds and ass-bandits alike (that's Mar-vell 😉).
I also want to see what's with Hulk's blood generating plant-life on Sakaar, that's some very interesting stuff... does it mean that Hulk is some kind of regenerative elixir, capable of bringing anything back to life?
Originally posted by janus77
yes but, aside from The Flash and Batman, DC's just a Superman outfit.
Marvel's got stronger titles, imo ... which is probably why Hulk hasn't biffed the cosmics yet. he's had enough to go on with quarrels with Avengers, FF, Thor etc.I don't see the need to punch out a Watcher to demonstrate that Hulk is indeed "The Strongest There Is", because there's plenty there in The Hulk's powers that should be investigated and expanded up...
what's the reason for his ability to grab energy? does it mean that he could grab Gladiator's H-V and yank him in? does it mean that he can throw energy?
what happens after Hulk goes 'supernova', like near the end of WWH #5? where does he go from there? does he grow in size/mass or does he explode that energy?
what's the real reason why they can't duplicate the situation that created The Hulk?
Is Bruce Banner some sort of a mutant after all?
Yeah I agree for the most part. He should be earths strongest and stronger than some aliens, and cosmics. BUT not to get outahand.
The lame Champion should be the cosmic equivalent of the hulk IMO.
Originally posted by janus77
I know but, just that the gamma explosion causing Hulk would suggest a repeatable 'test'... which hasn't been the case so far. so something must be different about Bruce, no?
It's been tried twice thst I know of. Abom failed because the conditions weren't exactly the same. Sasquatch failed because a god interfered.
One failed test doesn't mean that Bruce is somehow different.
AFAIK the implication was always that Bruce was just spectacularly luck (or unlucky).
but Champion's really lame, nowhere near the charisma or class of Hulk.
Champion is a true 100% brick. Hulk's something more, much stronger too, but much more dynamic ...
I don't see the point of half the "Eternals", they seem painfully lame imo... especially Champion and The Runner ... Galactus should just chew 'em up, might be a good snack on the way to Earth.
Originally posted by janus77
but Champion's really lame, nowhere near the charisma or class of Hulk.
Champion is a true 100% brick. Hulk's something more, much stronger too, but much more dynamic ...I don't see the point of half the "Eternals", they seem painfully lame imo... especially Champion and The Runner ... Galactus should just chew 'em up, might be a good snack on the way to Earth.
Champion and the Runner are Elders, not Eternals. Elders are supposed to be one-sided, it's in their very nature; it's the reason they gained immortality. The idea is that they each have become so obsessed with one thing over all others, that it's this drive to continue to get better at it that they gained immortality and lasted beyond their entire race dying off.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's been tried twice thst I know of. Abom failed because the conditions weren't exactly the same. Sasquatch failed because a god interfered.One failed test doesn't mean that Bruce is somehow different.
AFAIK the implication was always that Bruce was just spectacularly luck (or unlucky).
I hope there is more to The Hulk's origins than an experiment gone wrong, somehow not really too struck with the idea of a big bomb mutating him into a creature of infinite potential. as bad as lightning striking Flash.
btw, what exactly was 'not right' with the Abomination experiment? I thought Banner just got caught up near the origin of the gamma explosion, not at the heart of it...
Originally posted by janus77
but Champion's really lame, nowhere near the charisma or class of Hulk.
Champion is a true 100% brick. Hulk's something more, much stronger too, but much more dynamic ...I don't see the point of half the "Eternals", they seem painfully lame imo... especially Champion and The Runner ... Galactus should just chew 'em up, might be a good snack on the way to Earth.
Champ has been written as a lame brick, but should be more.
He possesses the power primordial. Champ was just an example. Another character should be the cosmic hulk. Not the actual hulk being ruined by making him take out highfathers and above.
Runner lame? 😕
Nope. Runner would school most these cosmic chumps if he was written like the true elder he is.
Scratch that. If he had more appearances.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Champion and the Runner are Elders, not Eternals. Elders are supposed to be one-sided, it's in their very nature; it's the reason they gained immortality. The idea is that they each have become so obsessed with one thing over all others, that it's this drive to continue to get better at it that they gained immortality and lasted beyond their entire race dying off.
Originally posted by janus77
but Champion's really lame, nowhere near the charisma or class of Hulk.
Champion is a true 100% brick. Hulk's something more, much stronger too, but much more dynamic ...I don't see the point of half the "Eternals", they seem painfully lame imo... especially Champion and The Runner ... Galactus should just chew 'em up, might be a good snack on the way to Earth.
Runner would bitchslap Galactus 😠
Originally posted by Inhuman
Champ has been written as a lame brick, but should be more.
He possesses the power primordial. Champ was just an example. Another character should be the cosmic hulk. Not the actual hulk being ruined by making him take out highfathers and above.Runner lame? 😕
Nope. Runner would school most these cosmic chumps if he was written like the true elder he is.
Scratch that. If he had more appearances.
I've no problems with Hulk taking on/out cosmic level characters as such... he is meant to have "infinite strength" and such, just don't think it's all that interesting. I'd rather see Galactus destroy them, 'cos Galactus has an interesting history in cosmics, like Hulk has with Thor-level characters.
Hulk's beaten The Gardener before, he's torn apart weapons created for fighting The Celestials so that potential's always been there, in plain sight...