Martian Manhunter vs World War Hulk

Started by quanchi11247 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
So are you saying that Glads isn't strong enough to knock Hulk into space with one punch?
He attempted to bfr him and it didn't work. Hulk countered. We argue based on the comics not by powersets alone.

Originally posted by jasofisc
you said "How can Hulk beat anyone who is uber strong, fast, and can fly?
BFR everytime. " so your question was how can hulk beat anyone who is uber strong fast and can fly? your statement was BFR evertime in answer to your question it appers you didn't read WWH in answer to you statement well quan commented on that. understand

Uber strong, fast, and can fly implies that one can knock Hulk into space and not necessarily carry him there. Also sometimes characters in comics don't use their speed when fighting (glads mostly). Glads is faster than light right? So if one was faster than light then obviously they can carry Hulk into Space well before one neuron can fire in Hulk's brain.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He attempted to bfr him and it didn't work. Hulk countered. We argue based on the comics not by powersets alone.

He attempted to bfr the stupid way. This doesn't mean that Hulk can't be bfred. Also Glads didn't even use his ftl speed to do it. And I am not arguing powersets alone.

Originally posted by h1a8
He attempted to bfr the stupid way. This doesn't mean that Hulk can't be bfred. Also Glads didn't even use his ftl speed to do it. And I am not arguing powersets alone.
I never said he couldn't be bfr'd. I said that Glads attempted it in a comic and it failed. You keep claiming it's easy when it isn't. You just argue based off powersets which is full of fail.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he couldn't be bfr'd. I said that Glads attempted it in a comic and it failed. You keep claiming it's easy when it isn't. You just argue based off powersets which is full of fail.

glads didn't use his ftl speed.
Its very easy for uber strong and fast beings. They easily uppercut him into space.

Originally posted by h1a8
glads didn't use his ftl speed.
Its very easy for uber strong and fast beings. They easily uppercut him into space.
Did you see how quickly he took him up into space? Did you even read it? You see we don't just make stuff up and go by powersets alone and ignore the comics. Why don't you get that?

Originally posted by h1a8
He attempted to bfr the stupid way. This doesn't mean that Hulk can't be bfred. Also Glads didn't even use his ftl speed to do it. And I am not arguing powersets alone.

same with supes and dooms day

Originally posted by h1a8
glads didn't use his ftl speed.
Its very easy for uber strong and fast beings. They easily uppercut him into space.

not in comics for some reason when supes punches doomsday as hard as he can (i'm referring to doomsday rex and doomsday hunter prey) it doesn't do that. sorry this argument fails in that hulk can react fast enough to hit someone coming at him to punch him. He did it in WWH. Also if we are going by powers and everything if anyone went light speed in the earth's atmosphere it would destroy what ever town they are in.

My vote goes to WWH ftw IMO it wouldn't be close. But, you MM voters could help defend your position by actually saying what MM was going to do to either KO, Kill or BFR WWH. Which most of MARVEL earth couldn't do to achieve any of those things themselves.

Jonn wins the vast majority bfr or not.

Originally posted by The Illuminati
My vote goes to WWH ftw IMO it wouldn't be close. But, you MM voters could help defend your position by actually saying what MM was going to do to either KO, Kill or BFR WWH. Which most of MARVEL earth couldn't do to achieve any of those things themselves.

What you WWH voters could do is say how he is going to hit and intangible being. Either through BS or fanboy remarks.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What you WWH voters could do is say how he is going to hit and intangible being. Either through BS or fanboy remarks.

He's got to turn tangible at some point in order to do damage to Hulk.

Originally posted by h1a8
glads didn't use his ftl speed.
Its very easy for uber strong and fast beings. They easily uppercut him into space.
even if j'onn could do that, CIS prevents him from hitting a guy hard enough in the head to do that right off the bat.
and j'onn's never none that against anyone he's ever faced, even white martians bent on murder.

also, is the fight on earth or the kmc battle dome? if the kmc battle ground has a lid then that type of bfr is out.

Originally posted by Enyalus
He's got to turn tangible at some point in order to do damage to Hulk.
Not really 😆

Originally posted by iceman24567
Not really 😆

The only non-physical attack he has is his TP, which won't work on Hulk.

For Martian Vision or a punch, whatever, he's got to go tangible again.

Originally posted by Enyalus
He's got to turn tangible at some point in order to do damage to Hulk.

Actually, no he doesn't.

He just mindrape him or continually blast the poor bastard with Martian Vision (whatever THAT is).

Seriously, a bloodlusted WWH is too one-dimensional against a guy with a gazillion powers.

Heck, he can stay invisible AND intangible AND in the air and watch poor HULK throw a tantrum because he can't find his opponent.

that would just make him super angry. nothing good can come of that.

Originally posted by Enyalus

For Martian Vision or a punch, whatever, he's got to go tangible again.

A punch, yes.

Martian Vision, no. For some reason, he can use it when he's intangible.

Unfortunately, writers refuse to define it.

Some say it's pure psionic energy in destructive force.

Some say it's telekinetic forcebeams.

Some say it's pyrokinetic forcebeams that stem from his telepathy.

And of course, others just say it's plain ol' heat vision.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
that would just make him super angry. nothing good can come of that.

He can get as angry as he wants. What's he gonna do?

Throw a rock through MM's ghost form?

And 'intangible' isn't even the right term for his ability.

He shunts his mass to another dimension until there's nothing left but his astral form.

Originally posted by Draco69
And of course, others just say it's plain ol' heat vision.

My impression was that it was, basically, heat vision.

But it makes zero sense for him to be able to use it while he's intangible considering, as you just said, he's in another dimension while he's intangible...