Originally posted by Enyalus
My impression was that it was, basically, heat vision.But it makes zero sense for him to be able to use it while he's intangible considering, as you just said, he's in another dimension while he's intangible...
*shrugs*
His telepathy works even though his brain is in another dimension.
That's why I think his 'Martian Vision' is really just a destructive psionic force that can make things go boom and catch on fire.
Originally posted by Draco69i know, i'm saying that hulk at that point would be so mad that he'll get beyond j'onn's ability to hurt further.
He can get as angry as he wants. What's he gonna do?Throw a rock through MM's ghost form?
And 'intangible' isn't even the right term for his ability.
He shunts his mass to another dimension until there's nothing left but his astral form.
and maybe j'onn's "heat vision" is pyrokinesis. legion uses his to make things combust or explode.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i know, i'm saying that hulk at that point would be so mad that he'll get beyond j'onn's ability to hurt further.
that's why sentry's calming effect is the best counter for hulk.and maybe j'onn's "heat vision" is pyrokinesis. legion uses his to make things combust or explode.
J'onn can simply use the time to infilitrate WWH's mind.
And please don't bring up, Xavier's 'feat' with Hulk. If Xavier were truly bloodlusted, he'd simply mindwipe Banner rather than due a simple "I'll read your mind and....OH NO! Your memories are so horrible! I'm suddenly incapcipated with your mental anguish!"
If J'onn can withstand the Mageddon AND psychically attack it, he can handle WWH.
WWH's mind will admittedly be a tough nut to crack but not impossible. Thankfully for J'onn, WWH can't do a damn thing to him.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i agree that ONLY a telepathic assault would put the hulk down in this fight, it's just not proven that it would be successful.
It's not proven it wouldn't be.
Xavier jobbed. The guy's faced down Shadow King and Galactus in psychic combat but WWH's poor dead son is too horrible for him to handle?
Pfft.
same can be said about galactus: jobbing to chucky, but i get your point.
but the explanation behind why he couldn't scan hulk is due to the rage and confusion in his mind, sort of like why it took so long for him to rehabilitate sabretooth, and even that was unsuccessful. too animalistic, and the healing factor makes things difficult also.
Originally posted by Draco69J'onn did well inside Joker's head.
J'onn can simply use the time to infilitrate WWH's mind.And please don't bring up, Xavier's 'feat' with Hulk. If Xavier were truly bloodlusted, he'd simply mindwipe Banner rather than due a simple "I'll read your mind and....OH NO! Your memories are so horrible! I'm suddenly incapcipated with your mental anguish!"
If J'onn can withstand the Mageddon AND psychically attack it, he can handle WWH.
WWH's mind will admittedly be a tough nut to crack but not impossible. Thankfully for J'onn, WWH can't do a damn thing to him.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
same can be said about galactus: jobbing to chucky, but i get your point.but the explanation behind why he couldn't scan hulk is due to the rage and confusion in his mind, sort of like why it took so long for him to rehabilitate sabretooth, and even that was unsuccessful. too animalistic, and the healing factor makes things difficult also.
Oh, Galactus wasn't even fazed. Chuck downloaded millions of terrified Skrull minds into Galactus. He handled a alien population whose world was gonna die and all those emotions. But a really, really, really angry guy with a grudge is too much to handle? Pfft.
Hulk has always been difficult to scan, yes. But if Chuck wanted to reduce Hulk to vegetable, than he could if he wanted to.
Originally posted by grey fox
What CAN'T he do should be the question. J'onn is the swiss-army knife of superheroes. This guy is like an X-men team all rolled into one.He can Become invisible
He can Phase
He has Heat-vision
He has Force Vision
He can shape-shift
He can Phase
He can Regenerate
He can Increase his mass
He Can Fly
He has your DC average Superhuman physical Stats.And he chumped Captain Marvel
J'onn grows to the same size as the Empire State Building and punts World War Hulk into the Sun. Afterwards he shape-shifts into Hugh Hefner and parties down with some playmates.
agreed
Originally posted by Draco69We all saw what happened when MMH tried affecting Black Adam's mind in a near analogue situation to when Xavier did the same. Call it jobbing on both ends, but it did indeed happen. And Hulk has resisted high-end telepathy before.
Actually, no he doesn't.He just mindrape him or continually blast the poor bastard with Martian Vision (whatever THAT is).
Seriously, a bloodlusted WWH is too one-dimensional against a guy with a gazillion powers.
Heck, he can stay invisible AND intangible AND in the air and watch poor HULK throw a tantrum because he can't find his opponent.
I've also never seen MMH use his Martian vision while intangible. Do you have scans?
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He can get so mad that he burns out due to stress and depression. Doesn't really matter how mad he gets, his anger isn't going to scare or provoke MM into changing back and slugging it out.
no but the fact that every comic MM is in he goes tangble to fight the guy does. there are just too many incidents to site. pic up any comic any one that has mm in it. And still no one has stated how mm can hurt wwh. He simply doesn't have the raw power that is why every one turns to BFR tactics because they dont know of a way for mm to hurt WWH