Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlThere is a difference between what happened to DS and Odin. Odin was shaking a planet in battle. We commonly see that thing happen. You know Planet Busters fighting but only shaking cities that kind of thing. Now if Odin had say lost to Silver Surfer a number of times then yes it would be a case of the ol' DS Syndrome but because he only shook a planet means nothing.
Those were previous feats. You know like when DS previously was able to beat Pre crisis kryptionians like red headed step childen. Why should we count shit Odin did in the silver age when his current showings dont' show nearly that much power? Also, Ganthet was NOT in the fight against the AM. Makes you wonder why hmm? I doubt Odin can beat 100 Gl's. currently, 1 guardian is equal to 200 GL's since each sector now has TWo GL's. Oh and Ganthet just happens to be more powerful than any other gaurdian. I'd say Odin is up shit's creek. Especially since a few members of the GL corps could contain a galaxy destroying Blast.
By the way Thor has absorbed a universal attack before and Odin beat him like a red headed step child. Odin would beat hundreds of Silver Surfers as well. Heck the Odinpower has shown way more power and control than anything the Guardians have done.
And are you really trying to say Ganthet is equal to the AM?
Originally posted by Newjak
There is a difference between what happened to DS and Odin. Odin was shaking a planet in battle. We commonly see that thing happen. You know Planet Busters fighting but only shaking cities that kind of thing. Now if Odin had say lost to Silver Surfer a number of times then yes it would be a case of the ol' DS Syndrome but because he only shook a planet means nothing.By the way Thor has absorbed a universal attack before and Odin beat him like a red headed step child. Odin would beat hundreds of Silver Surfers as well. Heck the Odinpower has shown way more power and control than anything the Guardians have done.
And are you really trying to say Ganthet is equal to the AM?
I'm saying Ganthet is more powerful than any other gaurdian. We do know this about gaurdians. SBP a skyfather level being couldn't kill one. The best he could do was hurt them. The touch of the AM couldn't kill one. He only burned one badly. The guardians where able to incinerate Sinestro corps members with ease as well as three gaurdians shown pwning the AM's arm and chest. I'd say that Ganthet, the most powerful of all Guardians wouldn't be a walk in the park for Odin. Hell, I think Superboy prime wouldn't be a walk in the park for Odin.
Originally posted by Newjak
And Thor has absorbed a universal attack before doesn't mean Odin beat Thor everytime or a 100 Thors for that matter. Odin would beat 100s of any top-tier.
where is this universal attack that Thor has absorbed? if you mean, the hammer, that hammer is ODin's power. It is more poweful than thor. Even surfer says the HAMMER is more powerful than his power cosmic. Not Thor. And I still have never seen this universal absorbtion by thor. Heard of a galactic one by him. Never a universal lvl one.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlIt's where he absorbs the blast from a bomb that would destroy 1/5th of the Universe. The bombs were about to be detonated by the Grandmaster.
where is this universal attack that Thor has absorbed? if you mean, the hammer, that hammer is ODin's power. It is more poweful than thor. Even surfer says the HAMMER is more powerful than his power cosmic. Not Thor. And I still have never seen this universal absorbtion by thor. Heard of a galactic one by him. Never a universal lvl one.
Umm really because I can name quite a few appearances where the Hammer is nothing more than a focal point of thor's own power. It's always been Thor's powers its just that the Hammer can amp it up some more.
Originally posted by Newjak
It's where he absorbs the blast from a bomb that would destroy 1/5th of the Universe. The bombs were about to be detonated by the Grandmaster.Umm really because I can name quite a few appearances where the Hammer is nothing more than a focal point of thor's own power. It's always been Thor's powers its just that the Hammer can amp it up some more.
Odin himself talks about the hammer and how in his hands, no one can survive a hit from him. The hammer is odin's power and creation. without it, Thor wouldn't be nearly who he is. and a 1/5th of the universe destroying bomb isn't quite universal. And if all the bombs where able to destroy one 5th of the universe and thor only absorbs ONE of thier blast, how is that even equal to one 5th of universal destroying power?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm saying Ganthet is more powerful than any other gaurdian. We do know this about gaurdians. SBP a skyfather level being couldn't kill one. The best he could do was hurt them. The touch of the AM couldn't kill one. He only burned one badly. The guardians where able to incinerate Sinestro corps members with ease as well as three gaurdians shown pwning the AM's arm and chest. I'd say that Ganthet, the most powerful of all Guardians wouldn't be a walk in the park for Odin. Hell, I think Superboy prime wouldn't be a walk in the park for Odin.
Superboy Prime Skyfather level 😆
Please fighting a few top-tiers to a stand still doesn't equate to Skyfather Status. 😆
Heck if you look at feats Dr. Strange has much better feats than SMP has ever had 😆
Now I'm not saying he isn't strong but a Skyfather he is not. Seriously get that nonsense out of your head.
Anyways let's get to some more of these points.
A weakened AM that was terribly hurt by a Galaxy destroying blast hurt the Guardians. SMP Prime you couldn't put down normal Superman in a few shots hurt them.
Once again saying they aren't weak but Odin stood in a battle that wrecked Galaxies without being hurt and has fought Surter who you know uses Galaxies to make his Sword.
Odin and has always been the top Skyfather. Basically he is almost the tops before you get into Abstract level beings almost.
And the Guardians have never shown to even begin to approach that level.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlUmmm Odin didn't create the Hammer. And yes the Hammer in his hands would be more powerful because instead in channeling Thor's power the hammer would be channeling Odin's 😕
Odin himself talks about the hammer and how in his hands, no one can survive a hit from him. The hammer is odin's power and creation. without it, Thor wouldn't be nearly who he is. and a 1/5th of the universe destroying bomb isn't quite universal. And if all the bombs where able to destroy one 5th of the universe and thor only absorbs ONE of thier blast, how is that even equal to one 5th of universal destroying power?
And it wasn't a bunch of bombs that together could only destroy a 1/5th of the universe it was 5 bombs each one in and of itself capable of destroying 1/5th of the Universe which as the Grandmaster said would destroy all of it. 😉
Originally posted by Newjak
Superboy Prime Skyfather level 😆Please fighting a few top-tiers to a stand still doesn't equate to Skyfather Status. 😆
Heck if you look at feats Dr. Strange has much better feats than SMP has ever had 😆
Now I'm not saying he isn't strong but a Skyfather he is not. Seriously get that nonsense out of your head.
Anyways let's get to some more of these points.
A weakened AM that was terribly hurt by a Galaxy destroying blast hurt the Guardians. SMP Prime you couldn't put down normal Superman in a few shots hurt them.
Once again saying they aren't weak but Odin stood in a battle that wrecked Galaxies without being hurt and has fought Surter who you know uses Galaxies to make his Sword.
Odin and has always been the top Skyfather. Basically he is almost the tops before you get into Abstract level beings almost.
Odin is a fallacy created by marvel wankers. Let's get some thing str8 shall we. First of all, SBP most certainly is Precrisis. ALL precrisis kryptonians where skyfather lvl beings. Now if you can show me one trans lvl being who can move planets around then you have a case. As for odin destroying galaxies, inconclusive. I've never seen it. I've seen poeple say he must have in his battle, and something about long dead galaxies. Hyperbole bullshit. inconclusive. And The AM hurt the guardians BEFORE he was blasted by the galactic explosions. And still he stood. a true testiment to his power. As for Dr. Strange, Dr. strange has no feats that can't be topped by a decent GL. Period.
Originally posted by Newjak
Ummm Odin didn't create the Hammer. And yes the Hammer in his hands would be more powerful because instead in channeling Thor's power the hammer would be channeling Odin's 😕And it wasn't a bunch of bombs that together could only destroy a 1/5th of the universe it was 5 bombs each one in and of itself capable of destroying 1/5th of the Universe which as the Grandmaster said would destroy all of it. 😉
Orion has Turned back UNIVERSAL destroying Forces with his AF. He's equal to Superman. Superman was bitched by Superboy prime, several times on panel. 😉
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl😆
Odin is a fallacy created by marvel wankers. Let's get some thing str8 shall we. First of all, SBP most certainly is Precrisis. ALL precrisis kryptonians where skyfather lvl beings. Now if you can show me one trans lvl being who can move planets around then you have a case. As for odin destroying galaxies, inconclusive. I've never seen it. I've seen poeple say he must have in his battle, and something about long dead galaxies. Hyperbole bullshit. inconclusive. And The AM hurt the guardians BEFORE he was blasted by the galactic explosions. And still he stood. a true testiment to his power. As for Dr. Strange, Dr. strange has no feats that can't be topped by a decent GL. Period.
No they were not Skyfather level beings. They just had a very good track record.
Seriously to move Planets I wouldn't even have to go that high up. GL Hal has moved planets.
Superman has moved planets
Thor has moved a planetary sized object.
Gladiator has shown planetary muscle really that is terrible.
So jsut because you haven't seen means it is inconclusive terrible logic. And it wasn't Hyperbole it was directly stated by the Narrator to be a direct effect from Odin's battle. And still Odin fights against beings who use weapons forged from Galaxies.
And are you serious Dr. Strange best feats simply outstrip anything done by the GLs save Full-Powered Parallax and Ion.
And the point remains AM was still very weakened.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Darkseid.
Superman 1M.
Pre-Crisis Superman.
DS is a skyfather. Regardless of the idiot voting that took place in the tier thread. takion, who was able to push back on the power of the god wave is a sky father and less than DS. just goes to show how much marvel wanking there still is here.
Sueprman 1M is certainly beyond trans. he'd kick thanos ass from here to eternity. What trans lvl being can hold back half a galaxy? Not thanos. And he's the very top of that tier.
pre-crisis superman is skyfather. or dont' you forget that as a boy he pulled a Galaxy or solar system worth of planets. can't remember which.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlThat has nothing to do with Prime that is just showing a few 100 GLs really aren't anything compared to Odin and unlike SMP who seemingly can not knock out a top tier to save his life, Odin one shots them without trying to hurt them.
Orion has Turned back UNIVERSAL destroying Forces with his AF. He's equal to Superman. Superman was bitched by Superboy prime, several times on panel. 😉
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlDr. strange and Dr. Fate could 😕
DS is a skyfather. Regardless of the idiot voting that took place in the tier thread. takion, who was able to push back on the power of the god wave is a sky father and less than DS. just goes to show how much marvel wanking there still is here.Sueprman 1M is certainly beyond trans. he'd kick thanos ass from here to eternity. What trans lvl being can hold back half a galaxy? Not thanos. And he's the very top of that tier.
pre-crisis superman is skyfather. or dont' you forget that as a boy he pulled a Galaxy or solar system worth of planets. can't remember which.
And as Stated Thor has already held back Universal power.
Originally posted by Newjak
😆No they were not Skyfather level beings. They just had a very good track record.
Seriously to move Planets I wouldn't even have to go that high up. GL Hal has moved planets.
Superman has moved planets
Thor has moved a planetary sized object.
Gladiator has shown planetary muscle really that is terrible.
So jsut because you haven't seen means it is inconclusive terrible logic. And it wasn't Hyperbole it was directly stated by the Narrator to be a direct effect from Odin's battle. And still Odin fights against beings who use weapons forged from Galaxies.
And are you serious Dr. Strange best feats simply outstrip anything done by the GLs save Full-Powered Parallax and Ion.
And the point remains AM was still very weakened.
When Dr. strange can hold a big bang, or send beings who's powers outstrip the imps to heaven, let me know.
As for kryptonians, They were in deed skyfather lvl. And SBP not only moved a planet, but he moved PLANETS so fast that thier atmospheres didn't even change. Now again, tell me, what trans lvl being can do that?And I need to see on panel, the narrator say that Odin's battle's destroyed galaxies.
Originally posted by Newjak
That has nothing to do with Prime that is just showing a few 100 GLs really aren't anything compared to Odin and unlike SMP who seemingly can not knock out a top tier to save his life, Odin one shots them without trying to hurt them.
The Odin wanking ****ing gets on my nerves. Seriously. next you guys will be saying Odin can beat yugah khan. No way Odin can beat 100 GL's. And SMP has knocked out a couple of top tiers. As I have already given examples in another thread.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlUmmmm you do know Silver Surfer has manipulated the energies of the big bang before and Dr. Strange has fought beings greater than the Imps at least on panel feats that is.
When Dr. strange can hold a big bang, or send beings who's powers outstrip the imps to heaven, let me know.As for kryptonians, They were in deed skyfather lvl. And SBP not only moved a planet, but he moved PLANETS so fast that thier atmospheres didn't even change. Now again, tell me, what trans lvl being can do that?And I need to see on panel, the narrator say that Odin's battle's destroyed galaxies.
Anyways Dr. Strange managed to go up against the IG before and his magic was able to keep him safe for some time.
And I already know you have posted in Odin threads before that contained the scan. 😉