1 Guardian (Ganthet) vs. Odin

Originally posted by Newjak
Dr. strange and Dr. Fate could 😕

And as Stated Thor has already held back Universal power.

Dr. strange and Dr. Fate could what? Dr. strange got beat by ninjas and dr. fate got beaten by desaad. And Thor absorbed the blast of a bomb designed to kill a 5th of the universe into his hammer. HAMMER. he didn't bat the energy back did he? Or deflect it. Your saying just absorbed it into the hammer. Wonder how thor would do against the same energy being controlled by a sentient being. things have a way of changing when it's a battle vs. a feat.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Odin wanking ****ing gets on my nerves. Seriously. next you guys will be saying Odin can beat yugah khan. No way Odin can beat 100 GL's. And SMP has knocked out a couple of top tiers. As I have already given examples in another thread.

Hasn't SMP beaten 50 GLs before?

I mean let's face it not every GL is Kyle, Hal, John, Yat level power wise. And most of the lower GLs have been nothing but Cannon Fodder for every new bigtime enemy.

And seeing as Silver Surfer is just as powerful as any GL and Odin basically pimp slaps him around with ease I don't see 100 GLs even begining to match what Odin can do.

Originally posted by Newjak
Ummmm you do know Silver Surfer has manipulated the energies of the big bang before and Dr. Strange has fought beings greater than the Imps at least on panel feats that is.

Anyways Dr. Strange managed to go up against the IG before and his magic was able to keep him safe for some time.

And I already know you have posted in Odin threads before that contained the scan. 😉

The scan was inconclusive. It talked about dead galaxies. What the ****. And Strange has never fought anybeing greater than a 5d imp. He'd get his head handed to him fighting batmite, let alone mxy. And the silver surfer almost got crunched himself manipulating the energies of the crunch. Not exactly the same as simply holding a big bang. manipulating energy that is there and not exploding outwards is a lot less difficult than holding big bang power. comparison debunked. Odin is a hype machine. He couldn't even beat mangog.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Dr. strange and Dr. Fate could what? Dr. strange got beat by ninjas and dr. fate got beaten by desaad. And Thor absorbed the blast of a bomb designed to kill a 5th of the universe into his hammer. HAMMER. he didn't bat the energy back did he? Or deflect it. Your saying just absorbed it into the hammer. Wonder how thor would do against the same energy being controlled by a sentient being. things have a way of changing when it's a battle vs. a feat.

Anyways I would think Dr. Strange proving to beat someone who can threaten the Universe is good enough.

And once again Hammer extension of Thor's powers 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
Really and what gives you this idea.

Hasn't SMP beaten 50 GLs before?

I mean let's face it not every GL is Kyle, Hal, John, Yat level power wise. And most of the lower GLs have been nothing but Cannon Fodder for every new bigtime enemy.

And seeing as Silver Surfer is just as powerful as any GL and Odin basically pimp slaps him around with ease I don't see 100 GLs even begining to match what Odin can do.

Silver sufer has 1 percent of galactus's power. 100 surfers would equal galactus. Now if you say surfer is as powerful as any Gl, then 100 Gl's would equal galactus. we know for certain that 100 GL's equal the gaurdians, but it may be 200 now that it's 2 gl's for every sector. you know, just doing the math.

Originally posted by Newjak
Nice low feats you know because not everyone has those.

Anyways I would think Dr. Strange proving to beat someone who can threaten the Universe is good enough.

And once again Hammer extension of Thor's powers 😉

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The scan was inconclusive. It talked about dead galaxies. What the ****. And Strange has never fought anybeing greater than a 5d imp. He'd get his head handed to him fighting batmite, let alone mxy. And the silver surfer almost got crunched himself manipulating the energies of the crunch. Not exactly the same as simply holding a big bang. manipulating energy that is there and not exploding outwards is a lot less difficult than holding big bang power. comparison debunked. Odin is a hype machine. He couldn't even beat mangog.

really because besides World's Funniest a Non Cannon piece of literature 5D Imps generally don't show a lot of power along the lines of Abstracts. Heck I'll bring in something even better. Did you know that in DC/Marvel that DR Strange actually had a 5D Imp as a pet. Amazing what Non Cannon can do. 😉

Anyways the same Mangog got destroyed by King Thor with a gesture. And it has been stated that Odin allowed the enemies of Asgard to live even though he could beat them all.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Silver sufer has 1 percent of galactus's power. 100 surfers would equal galactus. Now if you say surfer is as powerful as any Gl, then 100 Gl's would equal galactus. we know for certain that 100 GL's equal the gaurdians, but it may be 200 now that it's 2 gl's for every sector. you know, just doing the math.

I mean the same GLs have low feats as well. Odin has very high high feats though and we know for a fact that Odin plays around with top tier beings like they are nothing.

Originally posted by Newjak
Not really as dead Galaxies being destroyed is quite conclusive.

really because besides World's Funniest a Non Cannon piece of literature 5D Imps generally show a lot. Heck I'll bring in something even better. Did you know that in DC/Marvel that DR Strange actually had a 5D Imp as a pet. Amazing what Non Cannon can do. 😉

Anyways the same Mangog got destroyed by King Thor with a gesture. And it has been stated that Odin allowed the enemies of Asgard to live even though he could beat them all.

Sighs. You really think world's funnest is Non cannon? I'd advise you to take a look at 52. Hypertime is still cannon. And thus, so is world's funnest. did you know that in superman batman 25, mr. mxy brought back the multiverse AFTER it was already forged into one by luthor? did you know that the joker with mxy's power was able to pwn the quintessence and bind the spectre to all of reality? Bringing up a cross over is a REAL smart way of trying to debunk a Canon story. It's also been stated that the gaurdians of the universe are the most powerful beings in the universe. So what's stated means jack. Just so you know. And a dead galaxy is a non feat to me. It means jack. It has no life. No suns. Nothing. it's a crumbled shell of what it once was.

Originally posted by Newjak
Exceot your Math is very flawed. Silver Surfer equals a lot less than 1% of Galactus. 100 GLs wouldn't even be a nuisance for Galactus.

I mean the same GLs have low feats as well. Odin has very high high feats though and we know for a fact that Odin plays around with top tier beings like they are nothing.

A rogue gaurdian embarrassed the **** out of hal jordan. So it's not like the gaurdians dont' play with top tiers. ANd thanos also plays with top tiers. Odin bitching surfer is not that impressive. given the fact that he couldn't put Thanos down conclusively. And it was stated on panel that the surfer had 1% of galactus power. Now I dont' know if this has changed, but I been reading surfer a long time, and I know I've seen that on panel.

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Ganthellax got beat by 5 GL's... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Sighs. You really think world's funnest is Non cannon? I'd advise you to take a look at 52. Hypertime is still cannon. And thus, so is world's funnest. did you know that in superman batman 25, mr. mxy brought back the multiverse AFTER it was already forged into one by luthor? did you know that the joker with mxy's power was able to pwn the quintessence and bind the spectre to all of reality? Bringing up a cross over is a REAL smart way of trying to debunk a Canon story. It's also been stated that the gaurdians of the universe are the most powerful beings in the universe. So what's stated means jack. Just so you know. And a dead galaxy is a non feat to me. It means jack. It has no life. No suns. Nothing. it's a crumbled shell of what it once was.

I have and just because Hypertime becomes cannon doesn't equate to World's Funniest being cannon. Last I checked the Marvel Omniverse still exists but not everything written by Marvel is cannon for all of Marvel. 😉

Odin has shaken the Mutliverse 😕

And the Spectre's powers vary a lot so I don't really think that is always a good feat to go by.

I mean beings have trapped Galactus when he is weaker. I could also point out that Mxy was held in check by a evil zatanna not exactly a good feat.

And Odins fight was not only destroying long dead Galaxies it was also reigniting dieing suns remember and once agian these were side effects meaning that most of their power was concentrated on each other so those thing shappening weren't even them focused on doing those things. 😉

One more thing, It took 26 lanterns to shield a galactic lvl blast. For reference.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
A rogue gaurdian embarrassed the **** out of hal jordan. So it's not like the gaurdians dont' play with top tiers. ANd thanos also plays with top tiers. Odin bitching surfer is not that impressive. given the fact that he couldn't put Thanos down conclusively. And it was stated on panel that the surfer had 1% of galactus power. Now I dont' know if this has changed, but I been reading surfer a long time, and I know I've seen that on panel.

And the only reason Odin couldn't put down Thanos is because Thanos couldn't die at the time because of Death.

And Odin not only pimp slaps top tiers he recreates entire dimensions.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
One more thing, It took 26 lanterns to shield a galactic lvl blast. For reference.

Originally posted by Newjak
I have and just because Hypertime becomes cannon doesn't equate to World's Funniest being cannon. Last I checked the Marvel Omniverse still exists but not everything written by Marvel is cannon for all of Marvel. 😉

Odin has shaken the Mutliverse 😕

And the Spectre's powers vary a lot so I don't really think that is always a good feat to go by.

I mean beings have trapped Galactus when he is weaker. I could also point out that Mxy was held in check by a evil zatanna not exactly a good feat.

And Odins fight was not only destroying long dead Galaxies it was also reigniting dieing suns remember and once agian these were side effects meaning that most of their power was concentrated on each other so those thing shappening weren't even them focused on doing those things. 😉

For one, there is only one mxy. Canonized by countdown. the end of the book shows mxy and it even shows an "alternate" mxy as an essential story. There is ONLY one mxy. Hypertime also made every DC story canon. And unless I'm crazy, IC didn't just unmake all of that status quo. Now find something that says Hypertime is invalid and thus all else worlds stories are invalid. Cuz guess what, The exact opposite is shown in IC. IT shows else worlds stories as all having been real. Not only else worlds stories, but precrisis as well. And the fact that mxy unmade and put everything back means there wouldn't be ONE world to show that story, since he literally visited all of DC.

Where is it stated that Odin has shaken the multiverse? I've never seen that. Forum myth.

And if odin destroyed long dead galaxies in his fight, which dead galaxies are shit to me, easy to crumble, it's not like he did it alone. he was fighting someone else. As for igniting a dying sun, so that is a feat? Light ray has made a super sun while being weakened. I'm not impressed.

Originally posted by Newjak
If Surfer had 1% of Galactus' power than he would be able to destroy multiple Solar Systems at the same time 😉

And the only reason Odin couldn't put down Thanos is because Thanos couldn't die at the time because of Death.

And Odin not only pimp slaps top tiers he recreates entire dimensions.

DS creates entire universes daily. And yet many think odin is above ds. Odin does not impress me.

And just becuz thanos can't die, doesn't mean he can't be knocked out or bitched. big G had no problem making Thanos beg for his life. And Big G was working thru force fields as well. And surfer shouldn't be able to destroy multiple solar systems. WRONG. We dont' know that big G was down to 1% when he did that.

Originally posted by Newjak
I would also like to point out that most of the blast was directed at AM and the 26 GLs were only shielding from the residual effects. It wasn't like they were directly taking on the full blast. 😉

WRONG. I'm looking at the book. they Held the blast and AM in a CIRCLE.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
One more thing, It took 26 lanterns to shield a galactic lvl blast. For reference.

Originally posted by Newjak
I would also like to point out that most of the blast was directed at AM and the 26 GLs were only shielding from the residual effects. It wasn't like they were directly taking on the full blast. 😉

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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
For one, there is only one mxy. Canonized by countdown. the end of the book shows mxy and it even shows an "alternate" mxy as an essential story. There is ONLY one mxy. Hypertime also made every DC story canon. And unless I'm crazy, IC didn't just unmake all of that status quo. Now find something that says Hypertime is invalid and thus all else worlds stories are invalid. Cuz guess what, The exact opposite is shown in IC. IT shows else worlds stories as all having been real. Not only else worlds stories, but precrisis as well. And the fact that mxy unmade and put everything back means there wouldn't be ONE world to show that story, since he literally visited all of DC.

Where is it stated that Odin has shaken the multiverse? I've never seen that. Forum myth.

And if odin destroyed long dead galaxies in his fight, which dead galaxies are shit to me, easy to crumble, it's not like he did it alone. he was fighting someone else. As for igniting a dying sun, so that is a feat? Light ray has made a super sun while being weakened. I'm not impressed.

So basically you are wrong.

Also once again ther eis only one Living tribunal but Thanos: the end isn't exactly cannon. 😛

Even if they are dead galaxies devoid of life they still have sheet size Nvr. To cover that much area is a crazy feat none of the Guardians have reproduced.