Sephiroth runs the gauntlet

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
No, he is more powerful than some gods, that doesn't make him a god. He is not "divine" by any means.

So he is stronger than the known divine being in the universe, and creates things only a god can create, and his creators want him to look divine, and you still can't accept that he is a god?

2. Creates things only a god could create? Like what? the SHM? Many non gods in fiction create living things, doesn't make them gods.

3. Creators wanted him to LOOK divine, I don't know if you noticed, but Seph and Jenova are meant to have a religous godlike theme, Jenova even means "New God".

1. Yes, but she is also the only god we know of in the FFVII universe.

2. He created his own lifestream. That is something only a being like Minerva could do.

3. They wanted him to LOOK divine because he IS divine. They gave him a godlike appearence to match his nature.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
1. Yes, but she is also the only god we know of in the FFVII universe.

2. He created his own lifestream. That is something only a being like Minerva could do.

3. They wanted him to LOOK divine because he IS divine. They gave him a godlike appearence to match his nature.

2. He created a negative lifestream, if anything, that's more a demonic power than a divine god's.

3. Name one divine thing about Seph, he is more unholy than holy. He thinks he is divine, he isn't tho.

AC Sephiroth > Trance Kuja

The only reason ppl think hes so uber strong is because he destroyed the surface of Terra, big deal.. AC Sephiroth could have done the same to Terra, what counts is if he destroyed Gaia (the planet which the protagonists of the game is on)

Sephiroth on Terra, and ull have one crazy space pirate with a planet size ship.

1. A) I never said she was a universal power, and B) no she wouldn't, given that the creators say there is not a single entity in the FFVII universe stronger than Sephiroth.

2. No, it isn't. Only a god can create a lifestream. This is especially stupid since there aren't even actual demons in FFVII's world.

3. I've given plenty of examples. Quit trying to weasel out of this and just accept the facts.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
1. A) I never said she was a universal power, and B) no she wouldn't, given that the creators say there is not a single entity in the FFVII universe stronger than Sephiroth.

2. No, it isn't. Only a god can create a lifestream. This is especially stupid since there aren't even actual demons in FFVII's world.

3. I've given plenty of examples. Quit trying to weasel out of this and just accept the facts.

2.He created a negative, anti-lifestream, a perversion of the real thing.

3. Ah, the classic,"I don't need proof you just accept it" tactic. Name ANYTHING divine about Seph. You won't find anything. You DO know who Seph is based off of, right?

Originally posted by Terryc250
AC Sephiroth > Trance Kuja

The only reason ppl think hes so uber strong is because he destroyed the surface of Terra, big deal.. AC Sephiroth could have done the same to Terra, what counts is if he destroyed Gaia (the planet which the protagonists of the game is on)

Sephiroth on Terra, and ull have one crazy space pirate with a planet size ship.

Exactly. Compared with Gaia(from FFIX or FFVII), Terra is a joke. And he only destroyed the surface of it.

1. Not in FFVII. The creatoers have said there is not one single entity in that universe that is stronger than him. This means that if they made a universal being in the FFVII universe, Sephiroth would still top him.

2. Hades was a Greek god who could be called demonic or a perversion of what God's should be, but it doesn't change what he is.

3. I already did. He is stronger than the goddess, and he did something only a god could do, create a lifestream. Pay attention.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
1. Not in FFVII. The creatoers have said there is not one single entity in that universe that is stronger than him. This means that if they made a universal being in the FFVII universe, Sephiroth would still top him.

2. Hades was a Greek god who could be called demonic or a perversion of what God's should be, but it doesn't change what he is.

3. I already did. He is stronger than the goddess, and he did something only a god could do, create a lifestream. Pay attention.

2. hades is not demonic, he is simply the God of the underworld and prosperity......who told you he was demonic.....

2. No one, but he does have some qualities that would be considered, according to V2D, "unholy rather than holy."

Basically I'm just calling out his crappy argument. He went from, "there is nothing in any way godlike or supernatural about Sephiroth," to, "he's more of a demon than a god," which is his way of admitting he was wrong without actually admitting he's a god.

Originally posted by Terryc250
AC Sephiroth > Trance Kuja

The only reason ppl think hes so uber strong is because he destroyed the surface of Terra, big deal.. AC Sephiroth could have done the same to Terra, what counts is if he destroyed Gaia (the planet which the protagonists of the game is on)

Sephiroth on Terra, and ull have one crazy space pirate with a planet size ship.

Because he didn't try to destroy Gaia the same way he destroyed Terra. He went to destroy the Crystal thus destroying everything. Why destroy a planet when you can just destroy everything?

And AC Sephiroth has never shown even the slightest ability to be able to destroy a planet. Trance Kuja destroyed Terra. Sephiroth never even phased the surface.

Trance Kuja glassed the surface. He didn't death star the planet.

AC Sephiroth >>>>>>>FF7 Sephiroth.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
And AC Sephiroth has never shown even the slightest ability to be able to destroy a planet. Trance Kuja destroyed Terra. Sephiroth never even phased the surface. [/B]

After he takes complete over the lifestream, he can do basically whatever he wants with the planet, destroy it, or alter it as he pleases.

Trance Kuja has been shown to destroy a surface of a planet. Put Sephiroth on Terra, he wouldve took over multiple planets and their lifestream and wouldve became extremely powerful before coming to Gaia

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
1. Not in FFVII. The creatoers have said there is not one single entity in that universe that is stronger than him. This means that if they made a universal being in the FFVII universe, Sephiroth would still top him.

I disagree. They said there is nothing stronger than him in the world of FFVII. Sometimes, world = universe, but if you think about that, it don't make any sense in this case.
How a guy with controll over one planet, can be equal or above a universal entity?

Cause the Dude wukk blow yo momma up.

I disagree. They said there is nothing stronger than him in the world of FFVII. Sometimes, world = universe, but if you think about that, it don't make any sense in this case.
How a guy with controll over one planet, can be equal or above a universal entity?

First off, they never said it was just the planet of Gaia. They said he was the strongest period. This means in the entire universe of FFVII.

And he'd be stronger than them the same way the son of two scientists became stronger than the planet's godess.

Sephiroth gets his head broken and he dies before advent children cry and wake him up...only to cr@p on him again and again until he cries out with humiliation

gets his head broken by what?

Originally posted by Furion
gets his head broken by what?

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