classic juggernaut vs. kalibak

Originally posted by Newjak
It wasn't Hyperbole it was actually happening.

The serpent was very physical how else would you explain Thor being able to hook the thing. 🙄

And it was quite big able to wrap around the Earth therefore it is definitely planetary in size.

Except he couldn't knock the helmet off if the shield is up and like I said BFR would be his best and only real option.

I would say Thor is more 90% of Superman at his best. And Juggernaut can crush Thor physically that should let you in on the fact Juggernaut is very strong.

Nev is just spinning his wheels.
If we are going to start throwing science around, you can forget ever bringing up 90% of Superman's biggest feats.

No use arguing with somebody that is picking and chosing what did happen, and what didn't happen, in a comic book world, regardless of what has been depicted on panel.
It just doesn't go anywhere.
There are descritpions of the midgard Serpernt, and they do not say that it is ethereal! They do say that it is so large it is wrapped around the planet. Whether that is a goofy description or not, I don't care. Take it up with Marvel, and while your at it, you can bring up the 100,000 other ridiculous feats for other characters.
But, if they are on panel, they are on panel. You can't just pick and choose.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Hey, give it up.

Nev is just spinning his wheels.
If we are going to start throwing science around, you can forget ever bringing up 90% of Superman's biggest feats.

No use arguing with somebody that is picking and chosing what did happen, and what didn't happen, in a comic book world, regardless of what has been depicted on panel.
It just doesn't go anywhere.
There are descritpions of the midgard Serpernt, and they do not say that it is ethereal! They do say that it is so large it is wrapped around the planet. Whether that is a goofy description or not, I don't care. Take it up with Marvel, and while your at it, you can bring up the 100,000 other ridiculous feats for other characters.
But, if they are on panel, they are on panel. You can't just pick and choose.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And something wrapping around the planet makes it anywhere near as heavy as the planet? LMAO.

And, yeah, something that is over 25,000 miles long could be considered a "Planetary Mass".

Read a book.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Nobody said it was the size of the earth.
Yeah, LYAO all you want.

And, yeah, something that is over 25,000 miles long could be considered a "Planetary Mass".

Read a book.

OMG your telling me to read a book. Length has NOTHING TO DO WITH MASS.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
OMG your telling me to read a book. Length has NOTHING TO DO WITH MASS.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Yes I am, you rude little twit.
I have been trying to be polite.
Nobody said it's length means it is of planetary mass. But, there is significant girth to the serpent.
(It's good to see you stopped saying it is an ethereal entity.)
25,000 miles of almost anything solid is an enormous mass.
I am not going to get dragged into one of your typical, sad, goofy arguments, where I will have to come up with the dimensions of the serpents head and body.
If you read the book, you know the dimensions. If you have ever seen the profile for Jormungand, or seen the other times he has been in a comic, you know what the thing is, the size, etc. If you have seen it, you are just trolling here, because you would know that 25,000 plus miles of THAT would, in fact be the size of a small planet.
If you don't agree with that, then you don't know what constitutes minimum size of a planet. Do you have any idea how small Mercury is?
If you don't know any of what I am saying, you shouldn't be arguing, you should be learning.
If you do know what I am saying, then the only reason you are arguing, is to argue.
Either way, you lose.

Without density mass means shit. 25,000 long balloon filled with helium would exactly weigh much would it??

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And something wrapping around the planet makes it anywhere near as heavy as the planet? LMAO.

Plus it is Muscles which isn't exactly Helium.

Originally posted by Newjak
Did I say it was the weight of Earth no I said it was planetary in size. There are a bunch of planets smaller than Earth ya know 😉

Plus it is Muscles which isn't exactly Helium.

nothing that big could live otherwise.

When it comes to magic logic tends to fall aprat

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
it is magic

nothing that big could live otherwise.

When it comes to magic logic tends to fall aprat

hmmm we seem to have gotten off of topic on this one. I take it that if Juggernaut can hold his own against the Hulk at the ridiculous levels he was on in the X-Men, that indeed he can draw on an infinite amount of strength, because the Hulk I saw and read about could throw around 200 tons with ease. Jugggernaut's durability vs Kalibaks Beta club, I just can't see how the club is any better than Mjolnir against Cain, and it was... how can I put this? It was useless, the club would be as well. Kalibak like most top tier bricks has never shown that he can increase his strength level, this is where he will fail to defeat Juggernaut. As for kalibak being greater in strength than Superman, that has yet to be seen, I have seen Superman beat Kalibak face to face without trickery. If Kalibak was such an awesome telepath why didn't I ever see him try that stunt on Clark? I don't want to hear about the T-Vo nonsense because if that were the case Max Lords probes would have had no effect on Clark. Instead Lord was seen controlling Superman like he was a two dollar muppet. Juggenaut without his helmet wears a magical mask so that even if he should lose the helmet TP would still have no effect on him. Kalibak would never have the chance to remove the mask. BFR???? Weak argument Kalibak is not Bruce Banner he's just another dumb brute, in fact Cain seems to be smarter than this dolt. Darkseid himself is embarassed by him.

Juggernaut 10/10

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
hmmm we seem to have gotten off of topic on this one. I take it that if Juggernaut can hold his own against the Hulk at the ridiculous levels he was on in the X-Men, that indeed he can draw on an infinite amount of strength, because the Hulk I saw and read about could throw around 200 tons with ease. Jugggernaut's durability vs Kalibaks Beta club, I just can't see how the club is any better than Mjolnir against Cain, and it was... how can I put this? It was useless, the club would be as well. Kalibak like most top tier bricks has never shown that he can increase his strength level, this is where he will fail to defeat Juggernaut. As for kalibak being greater in strength than Superman, that has yet to be seen, I have seen Superman beat Kalibak face to face without trickery. If Kalibak was such an awesome telepath why didn't I ever see him try that stunt on Clark? I don't want to hear about the T-Vo nonsense because if that were the case Max Lords probes would have had no effect on Clark. Instead Lord was seen controlling Superman like he was a two dollar muppet. Juggenaut without his helmet wears a magical mask so that even if he should lose the helmet TP would still have no effect on him. Kalibak would never have the chance to remove the mask. BFR???? Weak argument Kalibak is not Bruce Banner he's just another dumb brute, in fact Cain seems to be smarter than this dolt. Darkseid himself is embarassed by him.

Juggernaut 10/10

last time i check thor beat juggs

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
last time i check thor beat juggs

Wrong! Mjolnir beat Juggs.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Wrong! Mjolnir beat Juggs.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Wrong! Mjolnir beat Juggs.

😐

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Mjolnir is thor's b*tch

Like I said Kalibak's only chance is to use BFR and if that isn't allowed Juggernaut will win.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And we already know Juggs doesn't use that force field too often.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Wolverine and other have hit him too many times.

I mean,
Why would Cain care of Wolvie slashed him anyway? We already know his claws don't do sh*t to Juggs.

juggernaut has no forcefield in this match. sorry i should have made that in the op.

Originally posted by Galan007
But it's still an option Cain has. 🙂

Your point is?

I mean,
Why would Cain care of Wolvie slashed him anyway? We already know his claws don't do sh*t to Juggs.

I'd like to see just how many times this field has been used by cain. Cuz he didn't use it againt War Hulk, who would be the first being i'd put it up against. And why the hell would he need a force field IF he was so durable?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Why the hell would he need a force field IF he was so durable?

To keep people from getting to his helmet and to keep them from throwing him around, or latching onto him.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'd like to see just how many times this field has been used by cain. Cuz he didn't use it againt War Hulk, who would be the first being i'd put it up against. And why the hell would he need a force field IF he was so durable?

Two of his three encounters with Thor.

One of his encounters with Spiderman.

In his original appearance with the X-Men.

And has the shield when he simply decides he doesn't want people to touch him. Like Spiderman kept trying to tie him up in web. It wasn't doing anything but Cain got fed up with it so he put his force field up so Spiderman couldn't even touch him. But yeah he is just as durable without it as he is with it.