Terry Bogard vs. Kyo Kusanagi (with a twist)

Started by Sado2219 pages

Well, I commented on this one time before. Why was SNK stupid enough to accept a design for a character that is clearly taken? Furthermore, when this is found out, why has no one admitted it? Like brainy said, it was a quick attempt to cash in the popularity of SF. In that case it would make Ryo a Rehash, which is still as bad.

well we kinda agree then. going for a similar design was probably stupid, yeah. why has noone admittted it...i'm guessing it was supposed to be obvious in itself. kinda like them ripping of shinshoryuken and shungoukusatsu. who knows? snk has been pretty stupid on multiple occasions..................Ash Crimson anyone? 😠

ryo rehash. Definitely and conceded without any hesitation.

~Sado

Snk has alot of good idea's, but piss poor execution.

Snk has alot of good idea's, but piss poor execution.

in some departments yes. i think they are the type that need to get smacked around a little before they get their act together. I mean almost all their first attempts tend to suck. for isntance:
-kof 94: brilliant idea, bad execution. did better after KoF95.
-Fatal fury: the most original character after Street Fighter but again, poor execution. a classic in its right but it looked dated since it came out the same year Street Fighter2 came out.
-Maximum impact: the look on your face as you read this right now would suffice 🙂
-SvC: even though snk was the one to come up with the idea of the two companies going at it, their attempt at a real console game was poorly done, poorly presented and poorly delivered. plain bad....though i would mention that i was better than CvsS1.

the only great games they've made from day one was Samurai showdown and Art of fighting. both of them introduced elements in games that were ahead of their time and elements we cant live without:
-specials
-taunts
-zoom
-facial changes
-unique movesets for each character
-no rehashes

oh yeah, and battle colesium was damn good too. the real shame is that some of SNK's greatest works tend to be underrated.

~Sado

well i'm guessing this is the end of this thread. emperor, thanks for the great debating. as always learnt a lot about things i didn't know. at least we've come a satisfying conclusion to the ryo-ryu fiasco. i just want to put these past 16 or 17 pages on my "list of things that never happened" book.

as for takuma and akuma........lets just leave it at this:
capcom and snk have ripped eachother off on more than one occassion. period.

oh and the same goes for you brain. 'twas fun debating and sorry for any pressed nerves. see you in some other thread where we'll be butting heads for no reason 😛

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
oh yeah, and battle colesium was damn good too. the real shame is that some of SNK's greatest works tend to be underrated.

~Sado

Yeah, just like World Heroes.

Originally posted by Sado22
oh and the same goes for you brain. 'twas fun debating and sorry for any pressed nerves. see you in some other thread where we'll be butting heads for no reason 😛

~Sado

😂 Shit. Had been working on my reply you wanted & was almost done. Still wanna see it?

Originally posted by SmashBro
Yeah, just like World Heroes.

Great game.

Originally posted by brainchild81
😂 Shit. Had been working on my reply you wanted & was almost done. Still wanna see it?

Post it.

I could kick anyone's ass w/Brocken & Shura from WH2. Everybody from my area used to call Rasputin "Jesus" 😆

Originally posted by brainchild81
I could kick anyone's ass w/Brocken & Shura from WH2. Everybody from my area used to call Rasputin "Jesus" 😆

I'd tell those people to do their research next time.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Great game.

Yep. One of my favorite SNK/Neo Geo titles too. They need to be put in a KOF game already.

Shit. Had been working on my reply you wanted & was almost done. Still wanna see it?

😆
i guess so.....but if this thing leads to another 17page bs i'm gonna kill you 😠

I could kick anyone's ass w/Brocken & Shura from WH2. Everybody from my area used to call Rasputin "Jesus"

well....at least they didn't saw buddha. now that'd suck 😘

oh by the way, you guys heard of the fighting game that was supposed to come out called "war of the gods" or something. it was basically a fighting game with jesus, buddha, thor etc. all as playable characters in a 1-on-1 fighting game?

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
oh by the way, you guys heard of the fighting game that was supposed to come out called "war of the gods" or something. it was basically a fighting game with jesus, buddha, thor etc. all as playable characters in a 1-on-1 fighting game?

~Sado

What? Who in the world would make something like that???

Originally posted by Sado22
don't put words in my mouth. i said he was RELATED to the protagonist. you're the guy who doesn't know that gouki is ryu's "uncle" of sorts. i just brought up the SF stuff to give you a prespective. don't act like i WAS saying that akuma is ryu's father.
That's what it seemed like when you brought up Alpha movies. Otherwise, why bring them up?
Originally posted by Sado22
so he DID have a deathwish now didn't he?
What? Takuma's never done or said anything to imply he's got one b4, during, or since. What are you talking about? That doesn't counter what I said at all. 😕
Originally posted by Sado22
how? he just freaking agreed with me, that's how.
Looks like he said Gouki still don't really come after Bison.
Originally posted by Sado22
it wasn't a dodge and you know it. i ask you a question taht speaks for itself. capcom never admitted to any of the other things they ripped off from SNK. so why now?
as for Roy, for one i read it up on wikipedia. who knows how correct it was.
Don't remember you mentioning that the 1st time. What amazes me is that the sources YOU brought to the table don't even mention a small link between Gouki & ripoff's pop.
Originally posted by Sado22
that's in-game man. heck even her backstory has one guy tear her shirt off after trying to tackle her.
It's always been in-game. You could have said that from the start. It's in multiple games w/her in it. & it's quite specific. Throws, tackles don't do it, but the "deathblows"/specials do. This guy's tackle was probably as effective/more effective than ripoff's deathblow. 'twas a special tackle. 😄
Originally posted by Sado22
oh so you finally agree. i remember trying to convince you that Shink Akuma is just akuma but you kept on bringing up his white hair and purple gi and i kept telling you that its because they are trying to sell them off as different characters in-game. nice to see that something CAN actually change your redneck brain. 😱
😂 Recently saw it somewhere. I stopped assuming you were right about stuff when you said Krauser was Godtier. I wanna confirm everything I hear now
Originally posted by Sado22
as for gouki and gen....you forget that when facing an opponent in a death match (which was exactly what their fight was since both are looking for a man who can kill them) gouki fights without restrain i.e. Shin Gouki. and their fight lasted quite long....and hence his "killing moves" thing that i mentioned holds don't it?
Heard Gouki let him off easy when he realized he was sick. How many of the killing moves were landed during that fight anyways?
Originally posted by Sado22
king was always doable. ask emperor and he'll tell you 😆
😂 He can't get enough of her. Seriously though, she doesn't look very hurt at all.
Originally posted by Sado22
the faq says otherwise. and she says stop. she could be saying:

-stop from beating him up
-stop being a dumbass

Yep. Those are the ones I'd chose 😄
Originally posted by Sado22
so you see, my faq still holds.
Heard from you & others that faqs weren't always right. I'll chose in-game over faqs most of the time. Unless I hear the company officially changed things like they did w/Ryu's cheapshot.
Originally posted by Sado22
the beam didn't malfunction. the malfunction was the fact that it wasn't working when he pressed it and the fact that kula diverted the blast so it would aim instead at the city (which is exactly what happened....not very smart htough considering all the fighters were there). and don't forget that SOUTH TOWN WAS DESTROYED! (hence South Town2 in MoTW)
also kim's team ending was scrapped as non-canon once the companies switched...not to mention that it was simply a joke ending. why have characters die in a joke ending anyway?
the same beam (in the edit team ending) does this:
http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/neogeo/b/kof2kedi.htm
How many beams were fired? This is kinda confusing. & what happened to the beam once deflected?
Originally posted by Sado22
oh and notice that just doing the haohshikoken tore off takuma's gi. imagine what the real thing would've done 😆
😂 Those guys fvck up clothes like none b4 them.
Originally posted by Sado22
takuma didn't say to the death but ryo sure as hell was going to turn him to paste with it.
Don't know futures that didn't happen. History's all we got & I've seen his death blows do minor thread damage. Takuma could have died from just accumulated damage. 😂 Regardless, you gotta admit he don't want a deathmatch since he never implies that he wants one EVER(B4, during, or since). Not a killer.

That stuff still don't say "this guy created Ryu & ripoff". Even if it did, ripoff still never should have been made. Fvck him. 'couldn't even do a proper fireball w/out charging up 1st.

That's what it seemed like when you brought up Alpha movies. Otherwise, why bring them up?

i just brought them up as a big possibility. knowing how capcom was "inspired" by SF2 the animated movie and went ahead to make the SFA versions of everybody.

What? Takuma's never done or said anything to imply he's got one b4, during, or since. What are you talking about? That doesn't counter what I said at all.

i've forgotten what i was saying by now? 🙁

Don't remember you mentioning that the 1st time. What amazes me is that the sources YOU brought to the table don't even mention a small link between Gouki & ripoff's pop

actually brain, i said gouki is inspired from ripoff. all the link says is that his look is based off gouken, which is actually true. i never said his look his based off takuma (minus the "coincidence" with the mask).

It's always been in-game. You could have said that from the start. It's in multiple games w/her in it. & it's quite specific. Throws, tackles don't do it, but the "deathblows"/specials do. This guy's tackle was probably as effective/more effective than ripoff's deathblow. 'twas a special tackle.

i know i said in-game. i'm saying we don't know how it REALLY happened considering her backstory where she tore it upon a tackle. sucks to be woman 😆

Recently saw it somewhere. I stopped assuming you were right about stuff when you said Krauser was Godtier. I wanna confirm everything I hear now

f00k your sarcasm, boy. 😠

Heard Gouki let him off easy when he realized he was sick. How many of the killing moves were landed during that fight anyways?

well for one gouki and gen fought for awfully long. second, he was pushed far enough to do the SGS. seems that plenty of death blows were being thrown around.

He can't get enough of her. Seriously though, she doesn't look very hurt at all

yeah being "emperor" i guess he can't help but have a thing for "king". he's been bringing her up more than i've brought up the "heart" with Terry. 😆

Yep. Those are the ones I'd chose

😆
my personal favorite was the hairstyle.

Heard from you & others that faqs weren't always right. I'll chose in-game over faqs most of the time. Unless I hear the company officially changed things like they did w/Ryu's cheapshot.

true, but faq would mean something when the official ingame aint said squat.

How many beams were fired? This is kinda confusing. & what happened to the beam once deflected?

i've been wondering the same damn thing sinc KoF2000! stupid SNK 😠
it always looked like it was one that f00ked the city. my hunch is the beam came down once (f'ed the whole city) and then came down reptitievly in different places. who knows?

Those guys fvck up clothes like none b4 them

ask ryu 😆

That stuff still don't say "this guy created Ryu & ripoff". Even if it did, ripoff still never should have been made. Fvck him. 'couldn't even do a proper fireball w/out charging up 1st.

i already said that ryo is insprired from ryu. don't see the point of carrying this further. let's just leave it at this:
-ryo and ryo came from same designer. ryo's inspired but not totally a spoof.

~Sado

Originally posted by brainchild81
That's what it seemed like when you brought up Alpha movies. Otherwise, why bring them up?
What? Takuma's never done or said anything to imply he's got one b4, during, or since. What are you talking about? That doesn't counter what I said at all. 😕
Looks like he said Gouki still don't really come after Bison.
Don't remember you mentioning that the 1st time. What amazes me is that the sources YOU brought to the table don't even mention a small link between Gouki & ripoff's pop.It's always been in-game. You could have said that from the start. It's in multiple games w/her in it. & it's quite specific. Throws, tackles don't do it, but the "deathblows"/specials do. This guy's tackle was probably as effective/more effective than ripoff's deathblow. 'twas a special tackle. 😄
😂 Recently saw it somewhere. I stopped assuming you were right about stuff when you said Krauser was Godtier. I wanna confirm everything I hear now
Heard Gouki let him off easy when he realized he was sick. How many of the killing moves were landed during that fight anyways?
😂 He can't get enough of her. Seriously though, she doesn't look very hurt at all.
Yep. Those are the ones I'd chose 😄Heard from you & others that faqs weren't always right. I'll chose in-game over faqs most of the time. Unless I hear the company officially changed things like they did w/Ryu's cheapshot.
How many beams were fired? This is kinda confusing. & what happened to the beam once deflected?
😂 Those guys fvck up clothes like none b4 them. Don't know futures that didn't happen. History's all we got & I've seen his death blows do minor thread damage. Takuma could have died from just accumulated damage. 😂 Regardless, you gotta admit he don't want a deathmatch since he never implies that he wants one EVER(B4, during, or since). Not a killer.

That stuff still don't say "this guy created Ryu & ripoff". Even if it did, ripoff still never should have been made. Fvck him. 'couldn't even do a proper fireball w/out charging up 1st.

😕 Tails rules!!!!

Originally posted by Sado22
actually brain, i said gouki is inspired from ripoff. all the link says is that his look is based off gouken, which is actually true. i never said his look his based off takuma (minus the "coincidence" with the mask).
Still, there's no mention of ripoff or his pop in either source YOU brought to the table
Originally posted by Sado22
ask ryu 😆
😄 Uses a non fatal form taught by Gouken

Is Sonic showing the middle finger? 😕

back to topic:

Still, there's no mention of ripoff or his pop in either source YOU brought to the table

why would it there be a mention when its talking about gouki's design and not his story? and why would it mention that he's a ripoff on a capcom page anyway? NOT to mention that its wiki, written by a jackass who probably some SF fanboy who knows less about Art of fighting than your left buttcheek 😠

honestly, most people don't even know that:
-Aof introduced specials
-Aof introduced zoom in and zoom out
-Aof introduced the dash system
-Aof introduced the taunts and it's affect on the opponent
-aof introduced the sprirt bar
-aof introduced the "charge" system

oh and that SF has ripped off many things from SNK as has SNK.

Uses a non fatal form taught by Gouken

non fatal as in can't put little girls away right? 😉

~Sado

Actually, Double Dragon in versus mode had dashing before hand.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Actually, Double Dragon in versus mode had dashing before hand.

Actually that wasn't dashing it was running. And yes sado sonic is givin' the finger.

Kind of the same thing. Is it performed the same way?

Originally posted by Sado22
why would it there be a mention when its talking about gouki's design and not his story? and why would it mention that he's a ripoff on a capcom page anyway? NOT to mention that its wiki, written by a jackass who probably some SF fanboy who knows less about Art of fighting than your left buttcheek 😠
You were invited to use info from anywhere. That includes SNK pages so that's no excuse. You know nothing of this guy. No need to call him a jackass or SF fanboy just 'cause his page didn't help you prove anything. 😄
Originally posted by Sado22
honestly, most people don't even know that:
-Aof introduced specials
-Aof introduced zoom in and zoom out
-Aof introduced the dash system
-Aof introduced the taunts and it's affect on the opponent
-aof introduced the sprirt bar
-aof introduced the "charge" system

oh and that SF has ripped off many things from SNK as has SNK.

This all came after SNK ripped of SF/Ken/Ryu right? Yes? Then it could be said everything else is payback(said that a while ago) 😄 Capcom apparently knew what would fly if ripped off & what wouldn't. SNK didn't, that's why AOF is a quite obscure failure of a series(heard they got a anime that damn near nobody saw) & why ripoff is one of the least popular heroes they have. No more AOF's being put out. We still have KOF's, we still got Sam.Showdowns, hell.....that loser wasn't even important enough to be in KOF: Another Day.
Originally posted by Sado22
non fatal as in can't put little girls away right? 😉
You must be getting him mixed up w/Ryo Suckassaki. He's the one that got the living shit beat out of him(FUBARED) by a lil' girl dressed like a cat. It's an honest mistake though. The names are quite similar. To help you remember, the one whose name ends in "O" is the Obscure one. 😄 The guy who Dan(the spoof of him) is likely more famous than.