Originally posted by Larceny
It's really not debatable. Not only has Marvel stalemated Superman in strength on numerous occasions but he's even did fairly well against an Eclipso amped Superman, going as far as catching his fist in mid swing. Funny considering Adam is usually depicted as slightly superior to Marvel.
Thats my point.
There is no proof if BA is stronger than Superman or not. Especially since DC has tried to lessen the power of the Marvels since they took ownership of the characters.
Originally posted by Larceny
It's really not debatable. Not only has Marvel stalemated Superman in strength on numerous occasions but he's even did fairly well against an Eclipso amped Superman, going as far as catching his fist in mid swing. Funny considering Adam is usually depicted as slightly superior to Marvel.
One Theory was that Black Adam is more powerful than Captain Marvel because his power wasn't shared...but recently they appear to be more equal.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
I dont need to. The fact that he consumes Solar power underlines that fact.if he didn't need to charge, he would have no use for Earth's sun whatsoever.
Originally posted by Larceny
On an average basis, Superman isn't depicted as having a high level of skill. He's depicted as a brawler, right along with the majority of top tiers.Combat wise he isn't faster.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Black%20Adam%20Feats/06-11.jpg
Quality over quantity, and I know Superman has similar feats. He just doesn't have speed feats that are going to place him above that level of speed.
To be intangible you really just have to move really fast, the rest is irrelevant as Superman has rarely if ever used them in battle. Yeah T-vo, but against WW? No.
Why fudge with something if it works in damn near every single scenario? It’s not in spite of his fighting style that he lacks skill. His fists get the job done. However, when he needs to, Superman can pull out his martial art techniques which consist of a variety of strikes and knowledge of pressure points.
On the other hand, karate chops and flips don’t constitute being a skilled fighter. So the idea of him not being very skilled is unfounded.
Like Juntai said, that feat has no quantifiable measure attached to it, so to say that Superman doesn’t have any feats above that is baseless. Not to mention Jay Garrick is easily the slowest Flash.
There are many combat speed feats from Superman above that in the respect thread. However, I’m too lazy to go through the 71 pages @ the moment.
Yeah, and it’s a trick Black Adam has never been able to accomplish. Yes, it takes a high level of speed but it also takes a level of control over one’s own molecules. Something which we know Superman has plenty of control over, like the Flashes.
And there are plenty of examples of him using his power set creatively to achieve ridiculous results. An example would be him sealing a rift in the space-time continuum by using “super hot static electricity.”
Plus Superman has the ability to exploit a weakness that Black Adam has.
http://img139.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=caf0f_justice14.jpg
Superman’s voice was loud and powerful enough to destroy buildings and made Supergirl go deaf.
Originally posted by Larceny
No, but that would be the same as me asking for proof of Superman using lightning.
Actually…
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermancreatesstormey1.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermancreatesstorm2yq7.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermancreatesstorm3fv7.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/supesrex4.jpg
Just some more examples of Superman’s creative power usages.
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Originally posted by Larceny
Superman isn't faster than Flash. 😐
I'd be willing to bet the farm that he's faster than Jay Garrick, however.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is not even how superman's power works. He metabolizes sun light. He stores it and converts it for energy. He doesn't just sit up there and charge like a battery and then runs out.
for him to metabolize anything he would have to have room for it...meaning he has to burn it off.
uh...The reason "sundip" is thrown around so much, is because it is Superman in fully charged mode.
He doesnt remain in that status because he burns up and depletes these solar energies. His source of power and what makes him "Super" has always been Earths Sun. He does deplete solar energy, and he does require and feed on solar energy.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
for him to metabolize anything he would have to have room for it...meaning he has to burn it off.uh...The reason "sundip" is thrown around so much, is because it is Superman in fully charged mode.
He doesnt remain in that status because he burns up and depletes these solar energies. His source of power and what makes him "Super" has always been Earths Sun. He does deplete solar energy, and he does require and feed on solar energy.
You are sooooooooooo wrong about superman's sun amp. Sun amp doesn't mean he's fully charged. IT means he beyond his normal capacity. That is why it wears off. OMG. I'm not even a superman fan and I know this. ANd he doesn't need the earth's sun to make him super. What about all those trips he takes in space away from any suns? come now.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are sooooooooooo wrong about superman's sun amp. Sun amp doesn't mean he's fully charged. IT means he beyond his normal capacity. That is why it wears off. OMG. I'm not even a superman fan and I know this. ANd he doesn't need the earth's sun to make him super. What about all those trips he takes in space away from any suns? come now.
no it wears off because he depletes it with activity. In fact, if the sun was permanently removed from existence or destroyed, Superman would still be Super but only for an undetermined amount of time before becoming relatively human.
not to mention if he had to fully exert himself in a fight during this time.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
no it wears off because he depletes it with activity. In fact, if the sun was permanently removed from existence or destroyed, Superman would still be Super but only for an undetermined amount of time before becoming relatively human.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um. No. Krytonians can metabolize other energy sources. As a matter of fact, superman once developed a whole new and better power set after being depowered.
Jor-El and knew that raising Clark under Earth's Sun would give his son vast abilities and superpowers. That was the reason they sent him to earth. They CAN metabolize other sources for energies but that is not NEARLY as effective or ideal. Nothing makes him more super than the solar energies of our Sun.
Originally posted by horrorwolf
Jor-El and knew that raising Clark under Earth's Sun would give his son vast abilities and superpowers. That was the reason they sent him to earth. They CAN metabolize other sources for energies but that is not NEARLY as effective or ideal. Nothing makes him more super than the solar energies of our Sun.
IIRC, blue stars make him even more powerful.
