Master of the Living Force

OOh mod insult. You did it now.... tsk tsk tsk.... noobs....

no....wait....he just might defeat ush and win the internet

Not that Ush cannnot be wrong, though it is a rare sight indeed, but calling moderator a moron leads to being banned from this site.

And this is actually interesting topic. Qui-Gon was following his instincts, Council seemed more concerned about determining long-term consequences.

Originally posted by Schecter
no....wait....he just might defeat ush and win the internet

That's be groundbreaking.... But no. Calling a mod a moron so early on in the game, that shows no resilience.

Melkor, that is maybe the line Nate needs to justify this thread. If it has any future now...

Indeed, said fool is taking some time off now, which he can learn from or he can get back to taking time off forever.

The problem with the whole 'Living Force' thing is that GL only ever explained it outside of the films. Pity, that.

Pity, quite a number of things.

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hehe, that was fun.

When?

Ummm...the guy calling out ush

So are we going to discuss the topic or what? Seems the thread should be closed if everyone is going to talk about noobs and taking time off.

Well, bring something up.

Okay then...I say Qui Gon may have been the epitome of what a jedi attuned to the Living Force is like but the films themselves are shockingly limited on information about it. Qui Gon was a maverick apparently, but I cannot say for certain no one on the Jedi Council could have shared a link to the Living Force rather than what some call the Universal Force.

Especially since th Universla Force is never mentioned. Waht we do get is that QGJ definately moves on his own attunement to the Force and his own intuition. That is why he 'defies' the council, although I am sure he doesn't see it that way. It's rather interesting because QGJ finds a personal way of attuning to the Force superior to the institutionalised way of deciding the Will of the Force. That makes him in a way better than all council members.

'Universal' force was a fan-term, though admittedly one created because there was a void to be filled. GL called the counterpart to the Living Force the 'Cosmic' Force.

It could be said the Council were blinded and that led to their downfall. Maybe if they were more like Qui Gon they could have seen what was really taking place with Palpatine and Anakin.
I think had Qui Gon lived he may have been more of a threat to the sith than Yoda or Mace or Obi Wan.

But the dark side blinds everything. Why would QGJ not be blind for it? He didn't sense dark Palpy when he was just a senator.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
'Universal' force was a fan-term, though admittedly one created because there was a void to be filled. GL called the counterpart to the Living Force the 'Cosmic' Force.

That makes things even worse. 😉

He had very little contact with Palpatine if you remember. It is posslbe had he been close enough like the Council were later once Palpatine was Chancellor he might have sensed something.
We just don't know for certain. I am of the belief that Qui Gon eventually would have become too dangerous to what the sith were planning.

On the QGJ thing- the whole point, as I got it, was that the powers of the Sith prevented the Jedi using their Cosmic Force powers- the general stuff we know about destinym, future prediction etc.- from seeing their return.

But QGJ, the proponent of the Living Force, all that stuff about feeling around you and instincts and what not... he didn't see the Sith coming,, he just knew. As soon as he saw Darth Maul, he just knew they were back. That couldn't be stopped by the Sith. But nor could he prove it.

I also like to think he might have sensed something from Maul in their final duel and had he lived he may have been able to do something to get the Jedi to take notice and prepare for the sith master showing himself.

Originally posted by qui-gon-fanboy
Okay really open foum here. Now, don't take any books or comics into consideration here. We've all learnt that Qui-Gon is the now-master of the Living Force. Well, he was and then trained Yoda and Obi-Wan to do as he did, so there may have been more. But, if it is true he had a chance to train his former allies, then how did he manage it. Through spiritual communication, or was he actually still alive, and through gaining his knowledge of the living force able to do the impossible and undo the effect of death. So what are your thoughts? How did he do it? Where was he? Please share your opinions.