Master of the Living Force

That is what I am wondering about. As if he might have accdientally picked up on some critical information from Maul's untamed mind.

Originally posted by MrCampion
No the face was right before he got impaled. I am not talking about the scene when he got it in the chest but right before that.

simple. "oh shit". he knew he was properly dodged and saw the final blow coming. so...yeah. "oh shit"

If you want to think that go ahead. Maybe I just look for alternate meanings in films.

But not in Sw please.

queeq i will think what I think about SW as you think what you think. There is no one all encompassing view that is right. I try to tolerate other views but can you really say the same?

I'm trying to go by memory and it's been awhile, but the "look" on his face came from 1-2 stunning blows by Maul before the death stab. I believe that Maul's double saber got cut in two so he had a single saber at the time, and he used the handle end as a blunt object and came up under QGJ's chin and stunned him long enough for QGJ's defenses to go down for the final blow.
I know that Maul was as exceptional saber fighter and also younger so maybe I brought QGJ down a bit too much by calling him a "mid level" but would either Mace or Yoda been beated by him? No, and I consider them upper level.

QGJ is rather clearly portrayed as a very powerful Jedi. Quite aside from being a Master, his stature as equal to the Council is deliberately given to the audience.

Maul was just an extremely good swordsman, is the point.

Mace is also a Master of a more aggressive style, remember, but I don't think that is canon.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
QGJ is rather clearly portrayed as a very powerful Jedi. Quite aside from being a Master, his stature as equal to the Council is deliberately given to the audience.

Maul was just an extremely good swordsman, is the point.

I give Qui Gon credit for lasting as long as he did once isolated.

It was a no-win scenario for Qui Gon but he must have known he would not last long on his own.

I wouldnt call it a no win situation, he could have defeated Maul one on one given the right circumstances.

Possibly, but once they were well into it, and he was tried, I think by then it was over. Unless he drew on the force in one sudden swoop like Obi-Wan did later with Maul.

by then it was only a matter of time.

Originally posted by MrCampion
queeq i will think what I think about SW as you think what you think. There is no one all encompassing view that is right. I try to tolerate other views but can you really say the same?

Touchy, aren't we?

Can't stand a little questioning and different opinions? What's an opinion worth if you can't stand up an defend it, as opposed to different opinions?

lean on him hard, Queeq. 😂

No, not really. But to say that I am not open minded, just because I am not convinced by the counter arguments is a bit shortsighted.

I'm getting off topic here, but I thought the way Obi Wan offed Maul was a bunch of PIS. How could you leap up out of a pit while drawing the light saber toward you, catch it, turn it on, and cut a guy in half that just out-skilled both of the jedis? That was a little too much for me, although I'm glad it happened I guess.

perhaps maul was too blinded by his own arrogance to see it coming...i dont know. i agree it was a bit silly that he just stood there and took it, but oh well.

Guess he didn't live too long to regret it.

He's half the man he used to be?