Originally posted by Delta1938
I guess you remember how dumb an argument it was. And it wasn't safado. Don't remember him ever saying anything about real life fighting. Although I tend to skim through his posts.Anyways, Superman wins.
Well it is a dumb argument. Too bad he'll never get another chance to prove it in the old universe as that has been sealed with Diana having the most and best and last wins.
Originally posted by Letters
WW 219. She wins while holding back and him going all out. Its the most definitive fight they have.
You mean where she got KTFOed with a single punch, was woken up by reentry heat but still down for a bit while he stood there, got her wrist snapped by him just squeezing it, failed to KO him despite smashing her bracelets between his ears, kicking him in the head and slamming his head into the ground, all while he was mentally compromised by Max, and she only got a technical win because she snapped him out of the illusion?
How about I show the fight from A LEAGUE OF ONE where she can't KO him despite sneak attacking, a second kick while he's down, then he owns her with ease while asking her, "This a test or what? Make me a sandwich after." That fight, either her skills are grossly overrated compared to him, or he's just so much faster than her that her skill doesn't matter. Either is fine with me. Or the FOR TOMORROW fight where he shows to be much faster than her, stops her charge with ease, catches her punch, smacks her across the room with a backhand, and just generally treats her like she's not a threat. Or in WW #175 where he physically dominates he again while mentally compromised, and she gets a technical win because of his mental state? Or her best actual performance where she looks good against a weakened, mind controlled Superman? Hell, he one-shot her as a SIDE-EFFECT of his heat vision in FINAL CRISIS. Yeah, she was mind controlled. Did it lessen her durability? 'Cuz there wasn't enough argue it hindered her performance. Since, she wasn't even his target.
And that's just their one-on-one fights. Oh yeah, and the fight you cite? She BARELY held back. Not a good argument there.
Originally posted by Letters
What kind of loser wants to fight over words said on the internets?"Hey, when im able to, after I train real hards, would you fight me in a steel cage I special ordered from amazon? Its not for gay bondage sex, its for fites!"
And WW has the winning record on Superman pre 52, so, there ya go.
That's why Khyranna bitchslapped her and knocked her out with just a fraction of Superman's powers?
Or the second round where she had her on her mercy with a single punch?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Khyrana with a portion of Superman's powers owns Wonder Woman. With just a backhand.Round two. She again owns her with a punch and the drained Superman had to save her.
I would like to see how you explain this.
WW 219 was an accurate representation of both characters imo. Superman is stronger, WW is more skilled. Despite being hvd at point bank range, strangled, tanking all out Superman punch, surviving the heat of reentry, tanking freeze breath and having her wrist snapped, yes despite all of that, she still won.
In A League of One we learn it is not her goal to KO Superman or even really fight him but to weaken him. Which she accomplished with 2 kicks.
In For Tomorrow Diana looks superior in the actual fight part of that fight. After Superman avoids and catches her sneak attack and warns her and hv warning shots at her, they are both ready, BAM -sheild bash! (I guess he wasn't fast enough to see that one coming lol!) then he gets kicked right out of the mountain. Diana then decides to disengage and go to the machine.
So ya at the end of that fight part she does look superior. After that Supes attacks her with his back turned. And shes so stupid in that comic anyway. Instead of running up and ripping that machine to shreads she stands there and poses with the knife so Superman can backhand her. Well whatever. Not the best representation of how a fight would go down between them imo.
In WW175 wasnt that Supes combined wirh Doomsdays powers? So he was way powerful and Diana kept up with him all the way to the end. There were outside circumstances affecting both iirc.
Superman has defeated WW at least once tho. In the 10th circle JLA story he proves he can win, if he gets 2 sucker shots, plays possum, and has 3 vampire buddies sacrifice their lives, THEN he can beat her.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh look who is here.That's why Khyranna bitchslapped her and knocked her out with just a fraction of Superman's powers?
Or the second round where she had her on her mercy with a single punch?
I would like to see how you explain this.
We have many more examples of WW and Superman actually fighting each other that this doesn't take precedence.
Originally posted by abhilegend
She didn't win. She stunned Superman with a sucker shot with her tiara. He wasn't even incapacitated or stopped from talking.The wound even healed in seconds.
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It wasn't a sucker shot. He was flying toward and looking right at her.
He was stunned, holding his throat for like 30 seconds or so? If she wanted to she could just beat him down while hes holding his throat.
Originally posted by LettersShe didn't win. In fact she didn't even do anything major to superman. He healed in seconds.
WW 219 was an accurate representation of both characters imo. Superman is stronger, WW is more skilled. Despite being hvd at point bank range, strangled, tanking all out Superman punch, surviving the heat of reentry, tanking freeze breath and having her wrist snapped, yes despite all of that, she still won.
In A League of One we learn it is not her goal to KO Superman or even really fight him but to weaken him. Which she accomplished with 2 kicks.She did that because she knew she couldn't beat him.
In For Tomorrow Diana looks superior in the actual fight part of that fight. After Superman avoids and catches her sneak attack and warns her and hv warning shots at her, they are both ready, BAM -sheild bash! (I guess he wasn't fast enough to see that one coming lol!) then he gets kicked right out of the mountain. Diana then decides to disengage and go to the machine.Hahaha. Oh the dilusions. I guess the bitchslap and casual punch palming were not in the comics you read.
So ya at the end of that fight part she does look superior. After that Supes attacks her with his back turned. And shes so stupid in that comic anyway. Instead of running up and ripping that machine to shreads she stands there and poses with the knife so Superman can backhand her. Well whatever. Not the best representation of how a fight would go down between them imo.
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She says the Superman 211 is unfair but WW 219 is fair? Bwahaha.
In WW175 wasnt that Supes combined wirh Doomsdays powers? So he was way powerful and Diana kept up with him all the way to the end.He wasn't powered up. In fact Circe had dampened Superman's powers according to Jiminez.
There were outside circumstances affecting both iirc.Nope.
Superman has defeated WW at least once tho. In the 10th circle JLA story he proves he can win, if he gets 2 sucker shots, plays possum, and has 3 vampire buddies sacrifice their lives, THEN he can beat her.What about this?
http://i.imgur.com/1OfZd2v.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1WR7PFT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6ML710b.jpg
Bam! Oneshotted.
http://i.imgur.com/plaIGPc.jpg
Nearly oneshotted again. Bam.
Oneshotted again. That's three oneshots wins Superman has against Wonder Woman.
Originally posted by Letters
We have many more examples of WW and Superman actually fighting each other that this doesn't take precedence.
And Khyranna had just a portion of Superman's powers. Totally countable in favor of Superman.
Originally posted by Letters
It wasn't a sucker shot. He was flying toward and looking right at her.He was stunned, holding his throat for like 30 seconds or so? If she wanted to she could just beat him down while hes holding his throat.
Hulk was directly looking at samson too.
Superman didn't had any idea that there was a tiara coming, hence the sucker shot.
It was just some seconds and he has fought with slit throats before. Just ask Batman. But stunning someone isn't a win either. You have to incapacitate someone for a win.
Originally posted by Letters
Oh and in Final Crisis he basically knocks her off of the Apocalypse dog thing. She is seen later on in that fight so it wasn't a KO.
Originally posted by Badabing
Just stop. Was she just resting? Was she just playing possum? Did she just find a shiny new penny on the ground there? Her eyes are even closed in the scan, along with her body contorted and on the ground. Unless you can prove otherwise, or provide evidence to the contrary, WW was KOed in that scan.I'm going to say what I, along with other mods and some members, already know. Some Marvel fans like to play dumb, lowball feats and ignore any feats which go against their arguments. I'm going to make it my business to address these tactics with warnings and bans.
So take this bullshit to herochat or somewhere else. She was shown way later in Final Crisis 7 after Flashes wounded Darkseid.
"Originally posted by Badabing_Just stop. Was she just resting? Was she just playing possum? Did she just find a shiny new penny on the ground there? Her eyes are even closed in the scan, along with her body contorted and on the ground. Unless you can prove otherwise, or provide evidence to the contrary, WW was KOed in that scan.I'm going to say what I, along with other mods and some members, already know. Some Marvel fans like to play dumb, lowball feats and ignore any feats which go against their arguments. I'm going to make it my business to address these tactics with warnings and bans."
Is this re FC? The picture is in the middle of an action shot amidst massive collateral damage in the making. This is proven by the fact that dogs and people are still flying up in the air. It is not picture of the aftereffect of the attack but of whats happening DURING the attack. WW has simply fallen on the ground during the ensuing chaos.
Originally posted by Letters
"Originally posted by Badabing_Just stop. Was she just resting? Was she just playing possum? Did she just find a shiny new penny on the ground there? Her eyes are even closed in the scan, along with her body contorted and on the ground. Unless you can prove otherwise, or provide evidence to the contrary, WW was KOed in that scan.I'm going to say what I, along with other mods and some members, already know. Some Marvel fans like to play dumb, lowball feats and ignore any feats which go against their arguments. I'm going to make it my business to address these tactics with warnings and bans."Is this re FC? The picture is in the middle of an action shot amidst massive collateral damage in the making. This is proven by the fact that dogs and people are still flying up in the air. It is not picture of the aftereffect of the attack but of whats happening DURING the attack. WW has simply fallen on the ground during the ensuing chaos.
And 😂 @ simply falling on the ground. Did she also just closed her eyes and contorted her body for this "just falling"?
You are full of excuses as usual.
Here is the full exchange.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes.He's also oneshotted herald level beings like wonder woman without directly hitting them.
Originally posted by carver9
Where was Wonder Woman knocked out in that scan?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Where she was lying face down ass up.
Originally posted by carver9
Doesn't mean she was knocked out.
Originally posted by Badabing
Just stop. Was she just resting? Was she just playing possum? Did she just find a shiny new penny on the ground there? Her eyes are even closed in the scan, along with her body contorted and on the ground. Unless you can prove otherwise, or provide evidence to the contrary, WW was KOed in that scan.I'm going to say what I, along with other mods and some members, already know. Some Marvel fans like to play dumb, lowball feats and ignore any feats which go against their arguments. I'm going to make it my business to address these tactics with warnings and bans.
Here is him reiterating it again.
Originally posted by Badabing
Nibedicus, just stop. I made a ruling. Deal with it. Trolling, bashing and writing dissertations is not helping. If this continues then I will strictly enforce the forum rules.Just to be clear, this isn't up for discussion. So don't reply to my post. A reply will be considered arguing with a mod and dealt with accordingly.
Everybody else joining in this bash/troll-fest will also be dealt with according to forum rules.
I suggest everybody get back to the topic and accept what I've said.
So yeah, have fun with arguing with bada over it.
